Mountain Bike as separate activity type or tag

Please add mountain biking to the list of activities in the app because the cals vs speed are very different from road riding. Also a count down to workout start would be a good feature.

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  • Exactly. No one seems to think it's a bad idea, so I can only assume no one at Strava is that bothered? I wouldn't imagine it would even be hard to change, and would make it so much more use for both MTB and road. 

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  • +1 Can Strava create 2 categories of bike: Road / Mountain Bike ? This has a huge impact on average speed. Pouvez-vous distinguer Vélo de Route et Mountain Bike , cela a une forte incidence sur la moyenne.

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  • Segment is a segment.  No classification!

    Use and be able to filter on Ride *Subtype* which could be road, MTB, bent, unicycle,  ElliptiGO or whatever. That way clubs can filter members rides (so your MTB or ElliptiGO rides aren't polluted with road ride data) - but your overall mileage challenges can still use 'ride' as top level category so it doesn't matter what you rode to get your miles. When you look at a segment you can see overall leadership board - but if you want to - just like you can filter for man, woman, day etc you can filter for ride sub-type. Then you could see where you stack up against fellow MTBers or even look at whole thing to see where you beat the roadies or whatever. 

    This thread has been going on for years with the same comments and suggestions...  It's pretty simple proposal. It shouldn't break the current data set - you could even have a smart categorisation where you assign a Ride Sub-type per your gear/equipment and any rides with that gear get automatically categorised (the default could be set to road or MTB or whatever you want for rides which didn't have gear associated with them)

    Come on Strava, time enough to make some progress on this please.

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  • Don't add new top level category - you want to inherit and be part of "Ride" - I.e. Cycling - start to actually properly use SUBTYPE - that's where Road, MTB, unicycle, elliptical or whatever can be used to:

    • Filter leaderboards
    • Setup club activity types - so only MTB rides would be counted in a MTB centric club and not road rides 
    • Filter your own activities 
    • Automatically use "gear" or MTB vs Road from previous rides to set your Subtype properly for historic rides.
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  • I see a lot of comments here but please make sure to vote up this feature guys. This one is currently number 8th most important sorted by number of votes even though it seems like the most important.

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  • Every time I go to segment explorer to try to learn the trail system in a new area I give up and reference MTB Project or Trailforks instead. When I am looking to ride trails I DO NOT want to see road segments. I am sure road riders would prefer to only see dirt segments if they are commonly ridden on road rides.

    The lack of initiative to implement this separation of completely different sports baffles me. I still pay premium for Strava but I foresee other developers are taking note of strava's complacency. When another company does launch an app that caters to MTB community I would feel no need to continue paying Strava.

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  • Mountain biking needs to be a separate activity with features like elevation drop for those down hill only days, mark a segment as a lift or shuttle (so it does not count in miles, time, elevation gain or calories), Strava tracking to choose the trail when a trail and road are close together, calories adjusted for down hill riding (as apposed to down hill gliding), remove road bike entries on stats when roadies and MTBers ride the same roads/trails, do a year end in review video with MTB figures, put a MTB cookie on users computer so when they go to Strava.com they get a MTB picture, only MTBers on fly bys, add putting Stans in the tires to the My Gear-Bikes data, generally customize the entire Strava experience so that it feels like it was designed for mountain biking (as a default, with access to road, fun, swim, etc. as an extra click).  john   

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  • Another crucial difference between Mountain Biking and Road Riding is the segment recognition is way too loose. Many of my trials that run along side a fire road or bike path hand the KOM to a road biker who has not earnt it. By changing the type of riding you could increase the sensitivity of the segment detection because trails are seldom more than 2 meters across. Its becoming quite obvious to the MTB community that all your priorities are road or running features. We pay full price too and you'd be surprised how many people are mountain biking on your system when you allow people to choose that activity type.

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  • I would have no problems starting from zero. Most of those segments are garbage and duplicates at that. I would also like to see filters based on gps device types. Smartphones are never going to be as accurate as a good gps device.

    My rant aside, it wouldn't take years given the size of your community. Let the users catergorize the segments, it would be done in days.

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  • I do not want a MTB tag in a cycling data base. We need an entirely new category like eBikes. Don't worry about the restart on all of the segments, The MTB community will rebuild all of the ones needed in no time. If an MTBer doesn't want to shift, they can stay in the "cycling niware zone". We need special features like
    - Adjust calorie burn for MTB: up, flat, down
    - Mark segment as “do not count in ride milage, time, elevation, calories” for shuttle rides and chair lifts up the hill
    - Elevation drop as tracked parameter (as well as elevation gain, makes a difference when I'm shuttling or chair lifting up a hill)
    - Add tire sealant to bike gear to track when to change out the sealant
    - Add set milage and date level for alarm to service bike gear
    - When road and trail are too close for GPS lock, default to the trail.
    I'm sure we have many more.
    john

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  • I completely agree with the most recent posts here Elle.  I feel like you are truly underestimating the desire of the Mountain Bike community to "get this right" by saying it would take years to recategorize.  It could be done in no time at all by doing the following:

    1.  Send an email to all users asking to voluntarily tag as many segments in his / her local area as either Mountain or Road (and when there are segments that combine both in equal amounts, they should be be still labeled as Mountain as you would in most cases require a MB to complete that segment).  

    2.  After a user posts a ride, ask them kindly to categorize the segments he / she just rode as either Mountain or Road (of course as more and more are categorized, it should only request you to tag those that still haven't been categorized).

    And it's pretty much as simple as that.  Within weeks this will be done, not years. 

    I wish I could sit in on one of your meetings Elle to find out what the honest-to-God reason is for ignoring this large portion of your user group.  Would be fascinating to find out the true feelings Strava employees have toward us mountain bikers and the reason behind this massive oversight.  

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  • Hey there Strava.  This is trivial from a software development standpoint.  Is it a DB issue?  Then just do it on a "from this point onward" perspective.  Start fresh with a "Mountain Bike" activity.  This isn't hard.  This isn't hard to do.  This isn't even remotely hard to do.  I work for a large software development company, this type of change is not difficult.  I would be happy to solve it for you if I had a look at your code.  Reach out to me.  jwalker@blizzard.com.  Fix it.  Mountain biking is different than roadbiking.  Everyone knows that.  18-20 mph on road bike isn't equivalent to 18-20 mph on a good mountain bike route.  Its not a matter of equipment, its the trail vs. the road.  For the same reason the 400m sprint in the olympics isn't run through a forest up a hill for time, road bike times shouldn't be equivalent to mountain bike times.  Fix it.  Please.

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  • As I said then there are two issues, that yes affect me personally, but arguably are also being cried for by many others. I don't understand the disdain for mountain biking. Seventy-eleven types of skiiing but half the riding community ignored. I don't care for surveys - did it though, months ago - and frankly I don't care what the implementation looks like. Start. Refine it.
    Fix them, and the next day I will restart my membership.
    I've no expectation that hammering away at this post is being but nothing else is...

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  • Jeez. 5 years to implement Mountain Biking as a seperate activity or properly facilitate it??? Not cool!!

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  • Agree with most of the comments in this post, seriously Strava, more than 5 years and almost nothing has been done

    It is not the same doing 20K in a mountain bike ride /track than 20K in a light/easy road bike track.

    Any suggestions what app is good for us mountain bike riders?

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  • Five years later, still nothing. :\

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  • Good to see e-bikes are supported now. Half a decade later and you're still sh*tting on mountain bikers. Ridiculous.

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  • I just cancelled my subscription till they sort this out. Perhaps if enough people do then they'll listen.

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  • I’ve created a ticket and will share Strava’s response here.

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  • Aye get it sorted Strava dudes.

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  • I agree good idea.

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  • +1

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  • I've been using Runkeeper over Strava because of this issue.  So much easier to select Mountain Biking from Cycling in that app.  Just trying Strava as I'm finding a lot of MTB riders are still willing to put up with this making it the de facto biking app on the dirt, as well as pavement.  C'mon Strava... I want to be devoted to you, but just can't do it yet..

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  • +1

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  • +1

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  • Hi Elle/Strava, despite what you say near the top about using different algorithms for MTB and road biking, that simply doesn't seem to be true. As an example, on my road bike I regularly do 700 calories in an hour. Today I completed a 21km MTB RACE in 1:35, where I was working very hard throughout and it tells me I have done 734 calories at a very low average power output. Thus, suggesting that it's the same computations being done by the app!  I have my bikes entered properly as you said, so this just makes no sense! (I use the android app if this makes a difference).

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  • Agree. Even when setting up a moutain bike in the gear section via the website, it doesn't seem to change the calorie calc (or if it does, the calc seems really low). Would just be more straightforward to have a MTB setting. thanks.

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  • Strava support sucks.

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  • An other argument for having different activity type, is joining challenges, like the distance or climb challenge: It doesn't really make sens to join such a challenge with a MTB...

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