Mountain Bike as separate activity type or tag

Please add mountain biking to the list of activities in the app because the cals vs speed are very different from road riding. Also a count down to workout start would be a good feature.

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  • I don't understand this a) tagging segments b) creating a top level type for MTB
    I've said this many times in this thread - we should use the SUBTYPE when we load a ride. You could also map gear to subtype but that is just icing on the cake.
    The important thing is when you look at a segment you can FILTER by subtype (or not at all) so if you just have Ride as activity type you see all data - but then filter by road - just road. Or mtb. Or elliptical or tandem or whatever. And definitely you can select SUBTYPE when you set up a club if you wish - then at last you can have just MTB rides from members for the week. (And they can also be riding road but won't be counted). And this can also work with challenges. Miles per month - all, miles per month on mtb.. there you go.
    So... what about the segment explorers? (For those people who keep wanting to tag segments) I would simply have a filter on segment Explorer or search which used subtype as well so you can see the segments which have been ridden with that subtype.
    If you want to get fancy you could color code segments on their predominant subtype
    In terms of populating the current database - people have already entered MTB or gear type per ride - so sort out the gear mapping to subtype and all your old rides can immediately get the right subtype and then the leader boards could be filtered on subtype right away - no need to start from scratch.
    Do you want me and some database experts to design this change for you in detail?

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  • Definitely

    useful to split these riding types - come on Strava - you added e-bikes fast enough!

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  • I'd buy Pro if it suppprted MTB. Just sayin'

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  • I miss also generally a sorting filter for the self created routes for a better usibility (sort by name, length, activity type, ...)! Also the possibility of creating different folders, e.g. for MTB and road bike, would help to keep an overview! :-)

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  • 5+ years now. How is this still not a thing?

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  • 5 years later... ;-) 

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  • This is fast becoming a festering wound! Strava's inaction on such a trivial change is beginning to sound like a divisive issue between Road and Trail bikers. I am over it, google are about to launch a segment oriented fitness tracker and I am told MTB has its own metrics and segments. As my favorite marketing lecturer at Harvard always stressed, its never for the customer to conform to the needs of the seller it IS ALWAYS for the seller to conform to the needs of the customer. With MTB being an ~20% share of strava's users Strava's managers clearly haven't cared enough so google here we come.

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  • In my opinion, there are no discussions: MTB IS NOT ROAD BIKE!
    Start a new DB only for MTB, each user will move his trips
     
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  • Yep, separated MTB activity please. It can't be difficult?

    Other planner apps such as https://www.komoot.com display and give surface types by %. 

    I export strata gps files and replan using Komoot, which I follow using Komoot on iPhone.

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  • Five years since this topic started and one year since they added the (apparently useless) poll. Not a single thing has changed.

     

    Ugh.

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  • Yvan, it's just ridiculous how fast they did to é-bikes what we ask for mtb. I don't understand these priorities honestly, but they just ignore one of the biggest group of athletes.

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  • Dear Strava People,

    I would prefer the subcategories Asphalt and Offroad for the Cycling category.

    Route Builder:
    My current issue with the Route Builder is that it wants to direct me off the road quite often while planning for a trip with the roadbike. Maybe because I have used the MTB for my last activities(?). Another issue was when I set just two points for a 50+km route. The Route Builder works nice and much better for me than Google Maps but in this case it wanted to send me through an offroad downhill and uphill section which is demanding even with the MTB and I was planning for the roadbike. It is just a kilometer but impossible with the roadbike. If you do not notice this while planning you would sit on the road and searching for an alternative on the phone which is annoying. (I speak from experience...)

    Segment Explore:
    The map is already small and roadbike segments suppress MTB segements and vice versa.

    Global Heatmap / Route Builder Heatmap:
    Difficult to spot interessting places for your specific bike.

    So, I would prefer a check box with the three options "Asphalt, Offroad, Both" for the Cycling category. I would not like to split Cycling into completely new categories because I want to see the overall sum in Avg Rides / Week and so on.

    Have a nice day!

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  • Dear Strava Support,

    the MTB community’s on Strava is still waiting for news if you will implement MTB specific activity on Strava app.

    Could you kindly share your opinion on it ?

    thanks

    have a funny sport days

     

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  • This is crazy.  It's been 6 years and Strava still hasn't found a way to separate mountain biking from road cycling????  I've read through the posts and I agree that there are a lot of different application/calculation/route/segment/etc suggestions that would be fantastic and that would take lots of time and thought to implement, but come on, how hard would it be just to allow us to specify "Road Bike" or "Mountain Bike" in the meantime???  I'm tired of getting my butt kicked on the leader boards in my MOUNTAIN BIKE groups because some of them are road bikers as well.  I know I am killing them on the trail km's, but when they go out for a 50 km road ride, it brings them to the top.

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  • They created a tag for electrical bikes way faster haha... Difficult to understand the way of thinking of these guys

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  • I would further add that segments could be differentiated as either MTB/CX (cyclocross) or road. There is definitely some overlap but the segments would be suited to predominantly to one or the other.

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  • I'd also very much like to see this. Right now the MTB folks have no chance of ranking on the weekly club leaderboards, too.

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  • Q1: So what if a Roadie storms up a MTB trail - the actual trail - not some adjacent road or something - .e.g dirt track Nate Harrison Grade on Palomar in SD - shouldn't they be able to get the KOM? This is only going to be applicable for some routes but I wanted to understand how people think this should work.

    As for being 2nd class citizens etc - count yourselves lucky - I ride an ElliptiGO (elliptical cycle) which is heavier and clunkier than your MTB and less efficient to boot (but good for my back so hey) - we don't even have a bike type so I use MTB (though it doesnt really matter). AND I LIKE to compare my times to both roadies and MTB - I'll try my best against both groups (and you can see my times up Nate Harrison or Haleakala ;)

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  • Is there a update on this feature request please?

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  • Kristen - FYI your calories jump to 525 when you switch the bike to your MTB and refresh the page. Hope that helps! 

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  • Make sure you check out this related feature suggestion as well, with regard to showing the leaderboard results based on road or mountain bike:

    https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/21054846-Filter-Segments-by-Bike-type-used-Mountain-Road-etc-

    Thanks for the feedback - this is a really good collection of feedback regarding this request that the product team will be interested to hear. 

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  • Is  this a technological problem or the people making the decisions don't think this is needed? Why should I have to go to google to see if a segment is a paved road or gravel? 

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  • @Bram - are you referring to this feature suggestion more specifically?

    https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/23368039-Classify-Segments-as-Road-or-Trail-Segments

    We're in discussion around this topic currently, and thanks for adding your feedback! 

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  • I recently posted a comment on a related forum, copied below: https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/21318843-Add-more-bike-types-like-Single-Speed-and-Track-Bike-?page=2

    What do you guys think about creating "Ride Type Tags" like Road, Mountain, Cyclocross, Commute, Time Trail, Track, Tandem, Recumbent, Hand Cycle, Unicycle, Velomobile... you see my point. (These could look and function exactly like the current Run type tags you see for Race, Long Run, Workout). Then, if you select a tag Strava will automatically prompt to you select a bike from your "My Gear" page to fit that tag, or to create a new bike. If you select a bike first, Strava will automatically select the correct ride type tag (which would also happen by default for whatever bike type you have set as the default). 

    (Do you think this would create problems if someone takes their mountain bike on pavement only? Would they want to classify a ride as a "Road ride" even if you're on you MTB? What about a Tandem Mountain Bike?)

    The Ride Type tag that is selected would determine language on the Activity Feed, social media, Training Logs, etc.  to help visually identify the type of ride. This could also allow for Segment Leaderboard filtering by Ride Type. So an activity would then display as a "mountain bike ride" if that was the ride type tag selected, or bike type selected. 

    Just a few of my own ideas to throw out there! 

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  • I would also like to have a Single Speed "filter," just like there are gender, age and weight filters, so I can see how well I stack up to those who are riding the same segments on a Single Speed.  Elle, similar to what you are suggesting, someone could classify his / her bike as a Single Speed so whenever it has been chosen for a ride, that will trigger the filter so it knows what bike I'm on.  Then I can use the filter to check how I stack up against fellow Single Speeders.  Make sense?  I suggested doing this a couple of years ago and hopefully now you're able to finally implement it.  

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  • I'm not sure it's helpful to just separate activities by type as it's the type of road or trail that a bikes on that'll have the biggest impact on calories consumed. e.g. a 10% muddy trail will be significantly harder than a 10% road. The percentage difference in efficiency between a road bike or mountain bike comparing in each of those situations, whilst relevant, is not the primary multiplayer on energy use.

    So i propose that two factors are used:

    Bike resistance, already implemented, changing type changes the calories consumed.

    Road resistance, based on if it's a paved road, or a trail of some kind. Luckily for Strava this information is already available on OpenStreetMap. Each road is tagged with information about whether it's paved or a trail or a footpath, Strava just need to implement a multiplier based on the distance a cyclist was on that type of path, taking into account all of the other variables it already does such as grade etc. 

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  • @Elle - yes, having the ability to mark one's ride as mountain or road and to search for mountain bike or road segments specifically would be a great help. Some segments are impossible to tell if they are road, gravel, or trail without other means. Also, as mentioned by Lance, the ability to mark one's bike as single speed would be great. This would apply to road and mountain.

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  • The post is nearly 2 years old and this request and many others are still not implemented...so what do we expect, that the Strava Team now wakes up? We should dream on...they don´t care.

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  • Cross posting this into the 3 main feature request threads 1) filter segments by bike type 2) differentiate between bike type 3) add bike type

    All these could be well served by full support of SUB-ACTIVITY TYPE - e.g. Ride->Road Bike, or Ride->MTB or Ride->Elliptical

    The main thing I want is to be able to compare my rides on my ElliptiGO (Elliptical Cycle) with riders on normal bikes AS WELL AS only have ElliptiGO rides in our club. This would be really useful and I don't see why it is so hard - clubs and challenges can be set up with top level Ride or Run or Ski or whatever - and ALSO with sub-type if wanted. That way - normal 'how many miles ridden this month' challenges still show ALL sub ride types - but you could do a 'unicycle miles' challenge on a month - or elevation gain or whatever. When you set up clubs - you should also be able to specify major activity type - run/ride etc - AND subtype - that way a person can ride normal bike and elliptical or recumbent or whatever and have no pollution onto club boards. Clubs that don't care don't set the sub-type.

    I think e-bikes should be a different activity and NOT a sub-type as assisted cycling (faster than fastest road bike) pollutes normal rides.

     

    Finally - you should be able to filter any leaderboard by sub-type. BUT I don't believe in designating segments as road vs mtb vs whatever - the segment is the segment - its a route from A to B - its up to you how ride or run it - BUT the filtering by sub-type will get people the results they want.

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  • Come ln Strava, it would be so easy to add as a feature!

    How can I be compete with road statistics when I go MTB!

    You should absolutely add this ASAP. 

    And also, add support for swim please,  there's a lot triathlets out here, and also recent integration with Suunto Ambit3 sport watch really needs it!

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