Feedback for the updated Strava feed

We are excited to share with you a project that we've been working on for the past year - a new way to experience the Strava feed.

The feedback you've been sharing with us about better ways to sort and filter the feed has not gone unnoticed. The feed fuels the power of our community and is where athletes inspire and interact with each other. We discovered that on average Strava athletes miss almost 60% of the content in their feed every day. Strava's new feed presents a non-chronological ordering of activities based on characteristics we think are most valuable to you. 

Here's how it works:

When you refresh your feed, any content you haven't seen before will be at the top of the feed, above activities you've already seen. The order in which these new items appear is based on a learning algorithm that uses your past behavior to gauge whether you'll find content interesting. Comment a lot on your sister's activities? Her items will be ranked highly for you. Your friend just ran their best time for a 10K? That will get promoted as well. The algorithm will continue to evolve over time, learning as you use it. We won't hide any activities from you - they'll all be in your feed, just in a different order designed to ensure you don't miss the items that matter most to you. You can read more on our blog.

We will be slowly releasing the new feed over the coming weeks, along with close monitoring of performance and your feedback. You are welcome to add to the discussion below or contact us directly by submitting a ticket. 

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  • Respect for the strava team trying to improve the user interface, but why start with a complicated algorithm which learns from peoples behavior??

    In my opinion it is much easier to give the users the possibility to create their own filters, like:

    hide/show commuter rides

    hide/show indoor training activities like zwift

    hide/show swimming activities

    hide/show running activities

    hide/show cycling activities

    hide/show challenges

    By doing so people can choose themselves what to show and what to hide and the decision is not made by a machine

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  • As a runner, I'd like to be able to only see runs from my friends, not their cycling activities.

    I am sure many cyclists would like the opposite as well :)

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  • Hate it. As others have said, please give us the option to see the feed chronologically.

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  • Chronological order option please please...!

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  • For some this would be good news but for others it will be bad, it depends on how you your feed is built aka. who you follow. I think I could like it. Let us find out ourselves and let us have the option to choose chronological if we don't like it.

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  • Are you people at Strava aware of what your customers actually want and need? I doubt you listen much... it's such a pity.
    I love Strava. It's a great tool but recently you people have been falling behind.
    Sure introduce this feature but make sure people have the option of activating it and not force it! This is ridiculous! So now I won't know if the person I think your system thinks I want in my top results actually has done the ride or not....
    I'll have results from later rides coming up before the earlier rides based on what... if not time. No. I don't like it. At least now I don't like it. Give us the option!

    Oh did I forget - why don't you Strava people work on what's actually desired the most - personal messaging option we've been asking about for so long...

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  • Please leave us chose to show activities still chronologically. Don't jump on the Facebook/Twitter train!

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  • Like others - I'm not at all convinced by this. I like the chronology ... but then again I don't have many friends ;-) As others have said, so long as there is an option to retain the current layout, then everyone can be happy. Options could be allowing friends to tag an important activity (that way you could work out your "needy" friends e.g. if they just tag a 30 minute turbo session!), or allow you an option to filter out activities where friends haven't edited the description (if it's not worth describing better than e.g. "morning run", then you can't be that bothered!).

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  • I've noticed workouts have been ordered differently. And here I've been, thinking people have been stuffing up their uploads. It had better not highlight Zwift! 

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  • This is a bad idea. Some of the most inspiring rides are from people that don't post often and don't use photos. I don't want to get lost in what some algorithm thinks I want to see, and miss out on less popular riders because their newer rides come after older rides from others, promoted because they're popular and thereby becoming more popular. Its disorientating and what I hate about Facebook.

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  • I don't have many friends on Strava. I do not find myself wanting this much. All told, I would prefer a feed that's simple and uses the limited space on phones efficiently. I wonder if people don't see old events because the items are so huge on the phone screen.

    Right now my  screen fits two items, one of which is an ad for this feature and my friend's run that takes up half the screen. I just want to turn off the maps, photos, your ads and many other things on the phone. If you think something might interest me, put a small tag or a colorful border or something.

    (I'm also super-miffed that the recording screen isn't the default on the phone anymore!)

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  • I would prefer for the activity feed to remain chronological, or at least to have the option to switch between chronological and the new Strava algorithm. And like so many of the others, I'd like the option to hide virtual & trainer rides. Not that they aren't impressive athletic achievements, but just seeing the same maps, over and over again, can get a little repetitive. Thanks!

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  • "Please give us an algorithm based feed like Facebook" said no one ever! 62 comments so far appear unanimously opposed to this idea.

    If you proceed without offering the option of reverting to a chronological option surely you are just admitting that this is not driven by user feedback but the need to promote commercial partners. Will commercial income replace the income from Premium members like me who cancel their subscriptions?

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  • I hate this feature. Give an option to sort it by activity date or upload date. It would be a better use of developers time adding things like show me just my commutes, or just the rides on bike X.

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  • I'm saddened Strava has chosen to force-curate their feed after Facebook and Instagram. I'm sure the engineering team is proud of their work and the product people have their reasons ("engagement.") I doubt Strava will ever  give customers an option (premium feature?) to opt out and revert to the vanilla chronological feed. They've committed to a major change and are excited to watch us struggle with it so they can tinker some more. They apparently have money to burn and this is the result.

    Maybe quiet A/B testing was done, or customer surveys we haven't seen. There are simpler ways to do this. For example, the feed could be ordered by upload time rather than absolute event time—often after a major even t uploading to social isn't the first priority, I get that.

    The deeper problem is customer distrust of an opaque algorithm. Chronological is dead simple and makes intuitive sense. Now it's going to be "random" and we'll all have to scrub around trying to figure out what happened. Product management and engineering understands (maybe) the process they privately define and can convince themselves they're doing the right thing, but from outside it's just another loss of control from a service we've grown used to.

    I expect kudos overall to decline. The most popular events will be promoted to the top and the feed will devolve into winner-take-all for the most popular athletes. Everyday workouts will disappear as "boring" even though those are the most important athletes to encourage. Very sad.

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  • As long as you have the option to select what way you want to view the feed. I would prefer chronological any day as some of the people i follow are popular athletes so my feed would keep getting filled with their activities due to them getting more kudos. My mates who only have a couple of followers would never appear and they are the ones i want to see most.
    You're not Facebook......PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BECOME FACEBOOK!!!!!

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  • This is a horrible idea. I want to see everything in chronological order. I do not want an algorithm sorting everything for me. At the very least, make this optional.

    Like others have stated, a much simpler way of cleaning up the activity feed would be allow users define a filter (hiding commutes, virtual rides, or whatever isn't interesting to them).

    I reiterate - make this optional, or I will switch to another service.

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  • While you are at the updates...  Please help the download speed of rides on mobile devices. Whatever you did this year (or didn't do - - buy more high speed storage space) I have seen a tremendous amount of degradation on loading individual rides.  To the point, I just don't look at people's rides.  I am for have a chronological option, but open to see how you "improve" the feed.  

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  • I just cancelled my Strava Premium renewal because of this. I do not want this to look like Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.

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  • Tried it and I can't tell you just How. Much. I. Hate. this!!! - and I'm not usually a hater. Please, please, please let chronological be an option! I'm losing friends' workouts. My workouts are shorter and not spectacular, so maybe others don't care, but unless they're mu husband, I'll disappear from everyone else's feeds, too. This makes me so sad and yeah, I'm likely not to bother renewing as a premium member with the feed like this. :(

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  • As everyone is saying, please give the option to show chronological. I don't have any issues finding people's rides and don't want Strava deciding what to show/hide. It's annoying on social media sites, on Strava even moreso.

    Have you conducted a poll asking if people should choose this or chronological sorting, if they had to choose just one? I'd bet you'd stick with chronological.

    As others have said, why not include the option to choose...

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  • I am not sure if anyone else has mentioned it, but I'd like to be able to group and filter the athletes that I follow. Now that I follow something like 80 or 90 people, I'd like to have a group for close friends or favourites so that I can see all of their activities first.

    I think that Chronological and Featured are also good settings possibilities and as long as you could choose, both would be good.

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  • Wow, I'm delighted that Stravabook has implemented an algorithm to decide the order that I want to see my feed. And I'm positive that based on my five+ years of viewing history that the algorithm has conclusively determined that I always always always want to see it in chronological order, right? RIGHT?

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  • Please make sorting chronologic an option.

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  • I hope you're seeing a trend here, Strava. KEEP chronological order as default and provide the OPTION to change it. Don't shove it down our throats. If my mates were running their first marathon, I would not be finding out by looking at Strava, we would be talking about it, already!

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  • What if my preferred order is chronological?

    You are rewarding people for being lazy and not taking the time to scroll back up for a few minutes to see all activities.

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  • Yes, because non-chronological timelines work so well for Facebook and Twitter.... For God sake, just leave it alone!

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  • No! And why? Why do you think you know best what we want to see, it's crap on Facebook and it'll be crap here. But if I can default to chronological then that's fine.  I appreciate it is free and I am very grateful, but please don't ruin it. 

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  • I would like to be able to give a thumbs down here and there.

    And how about KOM, KOM ties, 2ed and 3rd place in the trophy case. 

    I also like to leave Strava on when I drive home. How about a special leader board for "left Strava on?"

    By the way, I love you all, and if I wasn't doing something else right now I'd KUDO you all. Really. 

     

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  • I love Strava and have actually been using it as my social media platform of choice over Facebook, Instagram, twitter.

    This is a big step in the wrong direction.

    I bought a premium membership because I wanted to support Strava and NOT have it devolved into ads and "featured" posts like Facebook and the like....

    Strava if you actually care about your user base, read the feedback and respond and make the right choice. Give us a choice.

    Your response (or lack thereof) to this will be THE determining factor in me renewing my annual subscription. Please give us a choice for chrnological order newsfeed. No one asked for you to make am algorithm, we have been asking for more user freedom.

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