Record Apple Watch HR with iPhone app

I like the new standalone app for the Apple Watch series 2 but the GPS signal is not as good as the iPhone.

While biking in the mountains the watch loses the signal. 

I would like to use the iPhone as GPS and use the Apple Watch for the heart rate.

Is this possible?

 

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  • i'm a runner and a cyclist and want this for both. other apps run on both the apple watch and phone at the same time (runmeter, for example). this is basically a deal breaker for me. i will likely cancel my premium subscription over it. 

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  • I'm having the same issue and last night my watch died half way through my mountain bike ride so I lost half the data.   I need to be able to use my phone to track my ride so I can reference the map from time to time but still want my watch running so I can see my heart rate, glance at the mileage etc...   I think the new series 2 update is terrible for mountain biking but good for runners.   I never leave my phone behind riding.    I'm deleting the watch app until an update has been made.    

    Disappointing.   

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  • Finally got so fed up with this (and wanting to use a cadence/speed DuoTrap on my Trek Domane S 4) that I just bought a Garmin Edge 520 and heart rate monitor strap. Finally will be able to get ALL of my data in one place (and link to strava)

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  • Strava, any update on this? Would like to use my phone as my bike "computer" and use my Apple Watch Series 2 as my heart rate sensor. Any help is appreciated. 

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  • I like a lot of the features in Strava but it seems the most basic stuff is missing or doesn't work. I really think the product has potential but Strava had better fix the basics before someone else steals their user base.

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  • I have an Apple Watch series ZERO and with the Strava app as it is now: if I start the activity on the watch (which has no GPS) but take the phone strapped to my arm, then I get a mapped activity with heart rate. So... great for running.

    But on my bike i want to use the phone display to see where I am up to (quad locked to my handlebars). This is fine: I start the activity on the phone. BUT then I don't get heart rate.

    The old app synced start across both devices. I understand that it was redesigned for new Apple Watches that have GPS - so you can leave the phone at home. But this makes no sense for cyclists!

    Is it just an assumption on Strava's part that cyclists aren't interested in heart rate? Or was it assumed that cyclists would also primarily use the watch?

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  • Strava has been quite clear that they have no plans to support this feature anymore because it's apparently "quite difficult" to do. I suggest everyone making some noise on twitter, and other social media platforms in addition to cancelling premium accounts. Strava's stance on the issue is intolerable from a customer perspective.

    https://twitter.com/StravaSupport/status/879413594613587968

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  • Super frustrating. The simplest solution seems to be "merging" two activities that overlap from the same user. You have timesync'd data from two devices (watch/app) going to the same place. Figure it out server side! Prefer GPS data from phone or other GPS device, HR data from watch.

     

    With that said you could potentially merge any data sources that are time synced.

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  • hi all, please check below update:

    https://www.facebook.com/Strava/posts/1862281897119558?comment_id=1862572973757117&notif_t=feed_comment&notif_id=1504817855685795

    I quit strava premium subscription and use Cyclemeter application which has this function embedded and is only 10.99 euro for first year. The app reads heart rate data from apple watch 2 and speed+cadence from TACX T2015 bluetooth sensor without any issues.

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  • I have a v1 Apple Watch so using the watch strava app uses gps from the phone and hr monitoring from the watch. So surely it's possible to make this a choice watch v2 users. Disappointing that recording a ride from the phone app doesn't pull hr data from the watch

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  • So it did work, but now it doesn’t, and apparently now it’s ‘too difficult’? The more I use Strava, the more I realise what a half job they seem to do with everything. How important is HR data to people who train and from a safety point too? Whether Strava like it or not, Apple Watch is now the number 1 Watch in the world, so its not like there’s only a handful of people are using it? It’s a widely used piece of kit and it’s not a lot to ask for it’s support to be added.

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  • Not renewing my Premium subscription as above due to poor Strava support for Apple Watch. Currently assessing alternative apps and there are plenty. Pretty poor going Strava. 

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  • Agree with everyone here. This is absurd. Apple Watch 3 is out and you can't pull a heart rate from AW 2 into iPhone 6 strava app? Seriously? Is there more than one coder on staff? Are you a start-up just a month in business? Are you planning to ignore the entire Apple community? There is no excuse for this whatsoever. I have Premier but not for long

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  • I hate to enable these losers that can't figure this out, but I found an alternative that works for me.  The Jabra elite wireless earbuds have an accurate heart rate monitor embedded in the right bud.  I now bike with just my right earbud in and get heart rate without the ridiculous 90's chest strap.  Yes, my watch is rendered useless with strava but at least I can use the app now.  Hate to support them with a premium subscription if they don't support this, especially as they haven't also figured out my Powertap P1s power meter pedals (they show double my wattage, so I have to use the Powertap app and import it into Strava).  I love the Strava community, so would like to see an alternative community with app support so we can all migrate away.

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  • I feel misled and frustrated. I too will be canceling the membership I just signed up for.

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  • Is this seriously a big problem for Strava to fix? I thought I was doing something wrong when I didn´t got this to work. I will cancel my membership now.

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  • Just started to use Strava. Couldn't figure out why I couldn't use the iPhone and Apple Watch together like my running and golf apps. Found this thread. Simply can't believe this is a design decision! Fortunately I haven't been using Strava for long enough to make this a tough decision. Going elsewhere. Recommendations welcome.

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  • I use cyclemeter, which works as expected, and it uploads to Strava. Canceled premium since it does not work with Apple Watch. I ride a bike and no way can I look at my watch to see pace/speed instead of the large screen on my phone mounted 1 foot from my face. If you run Strava from phone you lose heart rate data and if you run from Watch you lose phone display (but capture heart rate.). Maybe Strava will fix someday but has been broken for 9 months or so.

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  • So disappointing that Strava have done this and continue to ignore the issue.

    I've got a perfectly good Apple Watch V1 and have always run with my phone as I like to take an occasional photo or video. I have a smaller iPhoneSE so the phone fits in a running belt easily.

    THE APP WAS PERFECT AS IT WAS.

    I contacted Strava support and the guy sounded quite surprised that I was finding issues, It is supposed to pull GPS data to the watch from the phones GPS as you run. Bullshit.

    It doesn't work.the pace is completely out! It's incredibly frustrating given I was using Strava for Marathon training and got used to checking my pace.

    Now I crank up the volume and listen out for the audio calls (I don't like to race with earbuds/headphones) and I use Apple Watch native run app, which is inaccurate but better than Strava watch (on Apple Watch v1).

    At least when my run is complete I've got a tracked run in my Strava account.

    Is there a way we can downgrade to what Strava used to be?

    Is there another app I can simply upload workouts to Strava, or do I have to get a new watch? All of which, by the way, are not needed given that it used to work....

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  • Some issue here. It is very frustrating, and I will not be upgrading to a premium subscription (as I originally planned) because of this. :(

     

    Come on Strava, spend two hours development time and fix this! If not, send me the code, I'll take care of this for you...

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  • Very strange... a few comments per week requesting this feature...and they dont listen. Can it really be that difficult to implement? I really dont get it! Would love this feature. C’mon people listen to your customers!!

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  • Bye bye premium :-(

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  • Try this. I just did a bike trip using Strava on both AW2 and iPhone simultaneously and started the recording both at about the same time (within a few seconds). After the trip I synchronized the AW2 into the iPhone app. Strangely, there were two identical rides appearing in the feed at the same time. After some time one of them "disappeared". Now, after a few hours, I cannot see the HR and suffer score unless I do this: Tap on the map in the feed to "open" the ride. Open one of the segments I did. Tap on 'My Results' of that segment. Here there are two lines with equal date and time. I tap on the one with the arrow (>). Getting back to the feed I tap on the map and swipe to Heart Rate Analysis and there it is. It's weird, almost like I did a ghost ride in a parallel universe... :)

    Is this reproducible?

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  • To continue. This ride was recorded twice, so I earned double distance. Now I've renamed the ride which had the HR and deleted the one that didn't. I'm left with one ride with HR and my profile now also shows just one distance which is correct.

    A bit complicated procedure this, but maybe a solution?

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  • Cant belive its so hard to return this feature.

    Everyone is asking for it.

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  • I work for a company that built and maintains a mobile app (long term support) so I have some sympathy for the Strava team here.

    They will have had a certain budget available to produce the most recent updates when the AW started supporting GPS without the phone. And generally for runners it works (quality of AW GPS allowing). But it feels like they missed the mark by not supporting heart rate monitoring via the watch for cyclists who generally want to use their phone mounted on the on the bike handlebars – but also for training purposes they want to record their heart rate.

    Also it's worth mentioning that Live / Beacon doesn't seem to work when using the watch alone (at least not with the original AW like I have), which is a significant disadvantage.

    Where Strava are now I imagine they see all these comments but they're possibly not in a position to just jump on it and do what people are asking. They may not even be in profit and might need to raise funds in order to do further development. I am speculating but that's what it's like in these sorts of companies. I can guarantee it will not be the case that they "don't care".Things take time and there will be competing priorities and resource challenges. 

    But they could do a lot better than the official response we saw here a few months ago. 

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    Here is a UX suggestion for how I would fix it for cyclists using the phone app but who also want to record HR:

    1. You start recording the activity using the iPhone app.

    2. If the watch app is installed, the mobile app is aware of this and a pre-record option appears "Record HR using Apple watch".

    3. If that option is selected, when you press record on the mobile app a signal is sent to the watch app and is also starts recording *in HR mode only*. (Behind the scenes a unique session ID is sent to the watch app. This is used to ensure that the activities are reliably paired later.)

    4. While recording in this mode the watch screen displays only HR, and the only option is to Cancel. 

    5. Owing to limitations the HR might not be displayed on the *phone*. Or perhaps average HR updates every minute or so (as per technical limitations).

    6. On stopping and finishing the recording on the mobile app a signal is sent to the watch to tell the watch app to stop. The watch app transmits its timestamped HR data to the mobile app (using the unique session ID) and the two sets of data are then either merged in the mobile app or sent separately to the the Strava API where they are matched up on the server. 

    7. The result is a phone-recorded session, with HR data from the watch app.

    8. Conversely, if starting a session on the watch it behaves as normal and does not communicate with the mobile app during the session.

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  • As an alternative can the iPhone be used as a display to augment the watch app? Also support using other sensors (eg cadence) while using the watch app.

    That way I can look at an iPhone for speed, cadence, power etc. seems a bit backwards though but maybe more doable?

    Not an iOS developer so not sure if it works that way.

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  • Any update on this from the official position in April?   I need to be able to see performance data on my phone and have the Apple Watch capture my heart rate to pass to the phone. Currently this feature that worked when I originally signed up for Premium has been deactivated.

    My renewal for premium is coming up on December 8th, and once you fix this I will renew, otherwise just using the free version and uploading my data from Cyclemeter, which has worked all along.  I have a kept the premium subscription all this time and don't use any of the features as I cannot use the app while I am riding, but no reason to keep supporting Strava when you choose to not allow the Apple Watch to act as a heart rate monitor.  So now I am 100% Cycelmeter.

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  • Is there any update here? This is a deal breaker for premium subscriber cyclists with Apple watches.

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  • Hey team, I couldn’t see if anyone marked this as solved but it appears in the settings now (yay) I haven’t tested it as I found it not long ago.

    Go to settings, Apple Watch permissions, then there is a gather heartbeat from watch option

     

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    EDIT:

    ...it didnt work. not happy

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