Record Apple Watch HR with iPhone app

I like the new standalone app for the Apple Watch series 2 but the GPS signal is not as good as the iPhone.

While biking in the mountains the watch loses the signal. 

I would like to use the iPhone as GPS and use the Apple Watch for the heart rate.

Is this possible?

 

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  • Please. I know it’s possible. Running apps do it. Just get on this. TBH I don’t really care whether I hit start on my phone or on my watch, what I want is the ride computer screen on my handlebar mounted phone while recording a ride that includes both heart rate data from my AppleWatch series 1 and GPS from my phone. It’s posisble. Nike+ does it. Runkeeper does it. Runtastic does it (as mentioned above) - there’s no reason Strava can’t do it.

    Strava is awesome all around, and I’d love Summit; but their focus is just so far off base that I can’t bring myself to actually do so. “Fly bys”? Personal heat maps? These are cute, fun gimmicks, sure. But the idea that you’re dorectign your development power into those when you have core functionality missing from your platform, functionality that so many competitors have, it just ridiculous. FIRST you need to build the house, THEN you can worry about decorating it. I’m ready to pay you $60 a year for thag well decorated house. I just wish you had one to offer me.

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  • That's an awesome comment and the metaphor is entirely accurate. Strava built the frame of a house and then installed a $5,000 home theater but forgot about the walls and the roof.

     

    Strava was supposed to be first and foremost a way for us to track our workout performance, not just another social network. With the current Apple Watch implementation it's a social network that doesn't accurately track your workout performance, so what's the point?

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  • Still no updates from Strava on this? Clearly there's a lot of demand, as evidenced by the 6 pages of posts. Personally, I'd love a frank comment from Strava explaining why this isn't a priority.

    5 mins of Googling shows that HealthKit (the Apple Health SDK) is able to tap into HR on the iphone.

    https://developer.apple.com/documentation/healthkit/hksamplequery

    --> Using args:

    https://developer.apple.com/documentation/healthkit/hkquantitytypeidentifier/1615138-heartrate

    Digging further there's both APIs for async push queries as well as on demand queries... Basically, any way that Strava for iOS would want to get heart rate data is supported. I can't imagine a technical limitation here (besides something like Strava using an old version of the API).

    Since the technical fix seems trivial (lets say one engineer: 1 day scope, 2 days coding, 2 days review, 1 day push to prod), there must be either a higher level strategy decision for not including this (heart rate sensor partners don't want it included), or Strava just doesn't listen to user feedback (aka, the user is wrong mentality).

    As per others here, I'll never give up my iphone as my cycling head unit. Which makes the heart rate monitor on my wrist, and in turn the premium Strava services, completely useless :-(

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  • Well said Jonathan T. I’d pay to have this functionality. But can’t pay a subscription if the functionality is not meeting the need. I need my Apple Watch to also pick up the wattage from the Garmin power Pedals as part of the Strava Ride.

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  • I am surprised as anyone here. I would suspect among serious athletes functionality/integration/availability of data is the main driver of retention for Strava. Perhaps this whole saga is just indicative that Strava does not see serious athletes are a worthwhile $$$ source, so no need to cater to them, at any cost.

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  • Come on Strava.  Get your app in gear and give us the functionality we need.  Heart rate syncing live to the iphone app or the iwatch app playing nice with all of our bluetooth sensors.  Both would be very nice.  Till then I'm back to using the Polar H7 which I was hoping to do without since receiving my new iWatch series 4.

     

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  • What Michael said. This thread has been up for quite some time now. Can you please react or give an update on how the development for Apple Watch heartrate integration with iPhone strava app is evolving? Many thanks!

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  • I put my perfectly good Apple Watch 2 on eBay. No sense keeping it. Strava isn't going to fix this mess. I got a Wahoo Ticker. It seems clear they don't care about customers. 

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  • Don’t sell your $300+ heart rate monitor because Strava won’t support it. Apple made a good product. Strava didn’t. Drop Strava. This is possible - they simply choose not to do it.

    I cannot believe this remains unaddressed. The idea that if I want to use a power/cadence sensor then I also have to buy a new hear rate sensor, even though I’m already wearing a very nice one on my wrist, is absurd. And that’s exactly what I tell people when they ask me how I like Strava...

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  • It's on eBay right now since it's useless to me.  

    I know the folks at Strava are laughing at us about this. Stupid users! Why don't they listen to us.  

    Any other company, with all these comments, would do something.

    I've repeatedly reached out to them on Twitter. Any other company would do something.

    Not Strava.

    Clearly they are hoping Facebook will buy them and don't care about supporting their product. 

     

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  • In the end I chose to move to a complete Wahoo kit for my bike, with separate computer and sensors. Now I'm using Strava as a social network.

    Before this choice I solved the problem with a little hack: starting Strava both on the smartphone and on the Apple Watch, after the run I merged the informations from both and uploaded them again.

    This is the process:

    • record Strava on both devices (smartphone and AppleWatch);
    • sync with Strava;
    • export both tracks in GPX;
    • delete from Strava both tracks;
    • merge HR data from Apple Watch GPX in smartphone GPX with a script;
    • upload the resulting GPX again in Strava.

    If interested, you can find my Python script that merges the HR data here:

      https://github.com/lgangitano/strava_merge_hr

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  • I thought it was just my configuration that I can not make it work...
    Strava nice customer care - more than 2 years discussion only one official answer - more than year ago.

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  • Please Please Please make this work!

     

    The only work around i've found is to use the Nike Run Club app as it lets you use the watch to record heart rate and also display run data from your phone (which is recording the run). Then sync that to Strava but you lose most of the GPS data... so it's pretty useless.

     

    If Nike can do it... why can't Strava???

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  • I simply don't understand why one of the 'so called" leaders in activity tracking cannot figure out something as rudimentary as sharing HR data between a heart rate sensor on your wrist (Apple Watch) and an iPhone, or allowing a user the ability to sync a watch and phone activity as one. There is absolutely no need for these 2 to be independent of one another (why would you need 2 simultaneous, but different workouts??? You used to do it years ago and now you can't makes no sense.

    Seems like Strava also has an EVEN bigger issue......it's inability to listen to its customers, understand what they want and act on it. If you don't listen to customers, you eventually lose them.

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  • I literally am cancelling Summit due to this - every other workout app I have tracks my heart rate from my Apple Watch. Not having this integration kills this app for me, and considering that heart rate is a pretty basic metric for working out, it's surprising that this is still an issue for what is supposedly a top notch running app. Wish I had known about this before ever even bothering with it.

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  • Hi Strava, any updates here? Seems like a quite basic thing to have in place 2019? And if not, why just not explain why?

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  • I'm getting fed up off running both iwatch and iphone on a quad lock. Then having two separate uploads for my rides which i have to then delete one. The gps on the iphone is far better and I use it for guided routes but want the hear rate of my watch? 

    Why with all these additional summit add ons is there no integration seems simple. its pushing me towards a wahoo set up.

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  • This is absolutely dumbfounding. 

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  • From Strava Support:

     

    "...as the Apple Watch - Strava App currently only works independently and cannot be connected to the iPhone App at the same time to record the activity. Therefore, if you would like to record your heart rate data using the Apple Watch, you will need to use the Apple Watch - Strava App to do so."

    It sure would be nice to have maps and stats on my iPhone mounted to my stem (and more accurate GPS) just connected to the HR monitor on the Apple Watch.

    Does anyone have a better suggestion for an application/company that actually works WITH its users and customers instead of against them.

    Heck at this point I'd rather Apple just release an app which does all we need instead of having to deal with years-old requests and bugs.

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  • Cyclemeter by Abvio is the app I switched to after this Strava debacle. Cyclemeter is the most advanced application for cyclists ever designed for a mobile device. Built from the ground up for mobile, it makes your phone a powerful fitness computer — with maps, graphs, splits, intervals, laps, announcements, zones, training plans and more. The iPhone app works flawlessly with the Apple Watch for heart rate and also with Wahoo cadence. The amount of data at your fingertips with this app is astounding. Well worth the $9.99/yr! abvio [dot] com /cyclemeter/

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  • The problem is bigger than just monitoring the HR on apple watch while using the iphone app:

    The apple watch app should not only work as a stand alone app, but also as a proxy for the iphone app when it detects the presence of the iphone app. Apple watch app and iphone app should then work together to record the same activity. The apple watch app takes care of the HR and showing information on the screen. The iphone app does the actual activity recording. 

    I currently use the stand alone app on the apple watch together with a bluetooth headset and a music playlist. The battery lifetime of the apple watch lasts about 3 to 3.5 hours (new apple series 3 watch). So I can use it for a half marathon. for 30km ... but not for the full marathon ! 

    So the iphone needs to take care of sound, music, the strava app, the strava sound (updates each km), ... the applewatch can do the HR and show info on the screen. 

     

    I am a software engineer... I know you can do it ;-)

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  • Hello, I would like to follow a trail on my iphone with the cardiac frequency from my apple watch on my phone. I want to use my apple watch only for cardiac frequency and save it in my trail.
    Thanks

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  • Hi Strava Product Managers (Elle?): It has been two years since this thread was last addressed by Strava and right now this is my number 1 annoyance with Strava: I want to use the app on the phone and my apple watch as a heart rate monitor only. 

    It might be nice to get an update to this thread, even if it is just to say: "this is a low dev. priority" (although, with the number of comments and request I find that hard to believe). I get it: as a product manager myself, we all have to make priority calls and you have probably decided that this won't result in incremental revenue. However a little more communication would be much appreciated - even if the answer is "don't hold your breath" - at least we could get on with asking for other features.

    I could threaten that I will cancel my Summit subscription, as right now, this does not work as expected (although probably it works as designed - inside product manager joke), but I probably won't, at least not right away but once my annual subscription does run out, I may not renew - I guess it depends on what else you add to the mix between now and then.

    Thanks for taking a moment to listen to my gripe and consider this request.

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  • I chose not to renew my Strava subscription until this issue gets addressed.

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  • I also did not renew because of this.

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  • I did not renw my suscription until this feature be available.

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  • This thread is dead. the product manager doesn't even bother reply anymore. If you support this nonsense, then you should renew... else use it for free, or find alternative, which I am finding right now. But sad to say, as long as there isn't a real competitor against strava, they probably remain as is...

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