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Turn By Turn Notifications For Wahoo Bolt

Hi,

Been reading up on the Wahoo Bolt GPS unit and it was mentioned that using the Strava route builder does not allow for the Wahoo Bolt to offer TBT directions, however, using alternative websites like RidewithGPS or Kamoot does. Will this ever be looked into?

I much prefer the simple Strava route builder interface, and this is something of importance to me. 

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  • Will there also be Turn-by-Turn directions of Strava rides that are done/recorded (by me or anyone else) for the Wahoo Elemnt? So not only for routes created with the route builder, but recorded rides?

    Please fix this Strava!

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  • In reply to Christos K

    Ridewithgps, free subscribers can plan new route and get tbt on their wahoo. What you can't get without upgrade (of ridewithgps), is import.

    However there are other options to get tbt on the wahoo.

    What I do if I want to import a route from Garmin connect or Strava, is save to my pc as a tcx file, add tbt using javawa, save resulting file to wahoo element, and then run sync on element. This will result in a route with rudimentary turn- by-turn. Give it a try.

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  • Christos K., I have a free account with Ride With GPS and created a route there and synced it to my Bolt and got TBT. 

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  • Ride with GPS free account allows routes to be created and sent to wahoo with turn by turn, don’t need to pay. It’s easy to say just use Komoot or RWGPS as well as Strava, but it’s just more (seemingly easy to fix) hassled that Strava won’t resolve for customers. Personally I’ve started t use RWGPS to plan and export routes, but don’t like the route suggestions it gives compared to Strava and prefer Strava interface, just wis they would sole the TBT issue.

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  • PC Mountain: how do you sync your routes? I am syncing them automatically by adding my ride with GPS account to my elemnt app and the TBT directions are definitely not transferred.

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  • Christos K., that's strange. I specifically created a route in Ride with GPS to test my Bolt. I created a small route around my neighborhood and I then did the same syncing process as you. I got TBT and was disappointed because in a couple instances where I was making a lot of short and fast turns there was a bit of a lag. Like I'd already made the turn when the Bolt would tell me what street to turn on. 

     

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  • Just adding to the numbers calling for this feature here. I've just bought an Elemnt Bolt and dismayed to find I now have to sign up to RidewithGPS to get this feature. All my friends use Strava and Garmin and I realise we won't be able to share routes effectively. Surely a priority given the rise and rise of Wahoos popularity.

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  • I bought the Komoot World map and used to import GPX into Komoot for easy sync, including TBT, to the Bolt.

    This used to be easy and the original track was visible underneath the calculated route for review or even quick adjustments if you'd want.

    Something changed though, around begin september. Routes calculated by Komoot now often contain hundreds of waypoints (instead of a few tenfold) and even worse, the original track is no longer visible.

    The only workaround I've found so far is to import the GPX as an activity and then replan that and completely redraw it if needed, as I often get errors when trying to correct or modify part of the route.

    I've sent an e-mail to Komoot and logged it on their help page (http://help.komoot.de/forums/213895-ideas/suggestions/35468647-original-track-no-longer-visible-after-importing-g) but their response is roughly the same as here on Strava: deafening silence.

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  • My assumption as a developer,  is that that map creation tool was poorly developed and Strava doesn't want to invest the time in fixing the issues with it and have to fix all the badly stored data. I could probably write a conversion script to fix the issue with the missing formatting with the downloaded file but, it seems like something Strava's developers should at least provide to work around this issue. 

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  • Hi, please I need turn by turn for my ELEMNT thanks
    I have a premium account but next year if I don’t have the tbt I will leave Strava premium to go to rwgps.

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  • Any plans yet?

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  • Friends, it's pretty clear that Strava doesn't care about its users. Strava will only add this feature if Wahoo pays them a large amount of money. Once again, you're not the customer, you're the product. Strava uses its users as leverage against companies like Wahoo, Garmin, etc. to extract money.

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  • Please implement this for the Bolt

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  • Any update on this Strava?

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  • Hey folks, 

    No updates for you at the moment. Cheers. 

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  • they must just have a room of warm bodies working on their development team.

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  • Another vote for this, having to use other Apps for this functionality.  Come on Strava don't make us have to go elsewhere for this feature.  Its a slippery slope!

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  • Hi Strava, please implement this feature to the route builder. As a Wahoo user I'd like to build routes and use TBT on my device. Too bad Strava doesn't care, it's like providing satnav on a car without navigation instructions, nobody wants that, right?

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  • Hi Strava. Your service was trend setting and brought cycling to a whole new level for me, but unfortunately you’re really letting us dedicated users down with this point.
    More and more people are buying connected computers like the bolt and like me shocked to find out Strava doesn’t support TBT.
    You’re recent refresh of the app for iOS was nice but folks like me would really value you fixing this gap.
    Thanks Mike

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  • You said it wasn't in your plans for 2018. We are now a third of the way through 2019 - any update? 

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  • I was thinking the same Cameron so I sent a message to the support team asking for an update. Since they aren't giving us any information through this forum I may as well give the update I got from them:

    "Thanks for sharing your feedback with us, we don't have any updated to share on if or when this may become available. We have passed your feedback onto our Community Team for review.

    We review all feature requests and suggestions and we are grateful for your contribution. It’s our goal to improve Strava based on your feedback whenever possible. We wish we could respond personally to all feedback, but please understand that we may not, and we may not decide to use your feedback."

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  • I see the post from 12/2017. What's the latest thinking/progress re incorporating T-B-T navigation?

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  • still nothing after all of this time.

    wow.

    highly unlikely ill be renewing summit membership. this is a highly sought after perk, and strava is just giving there paying customers a digital middle finger.

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  • I posted on this a year or two ago so get all the updates. Outside of this, I've found Strava to be responsive. Therefore you have to figure that the issue is either:

    Legal - e.g. the two companies can't share certain types of data or, e.g. there is a 3rd party managing the tbt part who won't sell to both Strava and wahoo... Or;

    Commercial - e.g. someone won't pay someone else enough money. Or;

    Strategic - e.g. Strava don't *want* to be in the business of route building so tbt never gets up the roadmap list for them.

    It's probably a combo, but almost certainly the latter. Like Zwift not getting into stat keeping (that goes to zwiftpower.com), I don't think Strava does, or should, have interest in making a builder when we can all use other vendors.

    Strava aren't going to come out on a support thread and say that (that it just doesn't matter to them).

    For all those who have threatened to downgrade/leave... Will you? Did you? Really???? Try Komoot and then see if you still want to leave Strava....

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  • Turn by turn on your elemnt bolt:

    Create a route in strava, export it to your computer, import it to komoot (one in a life-time payment) and then export it from komoot to your element bolt. Job done.

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  • Wim,

    Thx for your comment re Komoot. For routes already created in Strava, that's useful. However, the point many of us are trying to make is: why would anyone create future routes in Strava knowing they need to take the extra steps you mention? Makes more sense to create the route directly in Komoot (or Ride w/ GPS). Both provide seamless integration with Wahoo and other devices.

    What's really crazy is that Stava has yet to comment. Where's the luv guys????

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  • The newly announced Wahoo Elemnt Roam computer *will* include Strava Turn-by-Turn routing shortly, apparently. The $10,000 question then is, is there any good technical reason why this shouldn't also be available to owners of existing Elemnt/Bolt & Strava users? 

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  • @Paul Clancy - don't hold your breath.  I'm expecting a 'the device does not have the capacity...blah blah' and you'll need to spend $379 to get it.  

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  • i am 95% sure that it will be converted to the older versions if that is the case... the issue is a formatting issue in the data file ... wahoo is probably going to update the phone app which will convert strava's crap routes into useable ones for all devices. 

    note: you can copy strava files into komoot and get them to work on the bolt thereby proving you can do it on the application level.

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  • @Evan Morris - Exactly. The Bolt is capable of consuming and outputting turn-by-turn data, so if Strava is able to export correctly-formatted data for the new device then there would seem to be no good reason it couldn't work for the older ones too.

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