PR achievements on first attempt

Hello all, 

We're releasing a slight change to our PR (personal record) achievements. Now, when you first attempt a new segment you will receive a PR. Before, this would only occur on the second attempt if you beat your PR.  

Let us know if you have feedback for us.

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  • I did a google to see if there was any progress on fixing this weird PR bug and found this thread.  I'm absolutely astonished that it was a planned feature!  Now I have no idea whether what I have ridden is actually PR or a freshly explored area.  Previously getting some PRs on a ride normally meant that I had put some decent work in to crack some previous times but now it is just a messy sea of information. 

    Can't you somehow differentiate between newly run segments and actual PRs?  Perhaps have newly run segment PRs as black / grey icons and real PRs as gold icons?

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  • Hey Elle,

    Just as many of the commenters on this thread, I disagree with the new change. I thought it was a bug at first, as I'm riding in a new city. But now it's actually annoying, because I can't discern whether I've gotten a PR or not. I also bikepack a fair bit, and having those achievements will not make sense at all. Please, please listen to the feedback of the community! <3

    Much appreciated,

    Jean

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  • Repeating what so many have said: 

    Records should reflect a comparison. A PR should be the best of more than one attempt.

    Getting a string of PRs devalues a PR. 

    This is particularly bad for rides which cover both new and old ground. Getting "10 PRs" on a ride now has no meaning--does that mean 10 new segments ridden slowly, or an actual record setting pass on 10 old segments which I've been working to get better at?

    A 'first time' / 'inaugural' award might be interesting. But it's not the same thing as a record.

    (KOM has the same issue, but is much more rare.)

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  • I went on a 50 mile group ride yesterday in an area I've done some riding in, but not everywhere. I ended up with 46 achievements from that ride, of which the vast majority were PRs for riding segments the first time. Some other achievements were buried in that huge pile of crap, since some of the roads we were on I'd done before, and had achieved something during this group ride. It was like wading through a lake of crap in order to find the things that actually meant something.

    This is really one of the dumbest things I think they've ever done.

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  • I think this is a bit weird. Since this change it is tricky to see when you have a PR. That's why I don't even bother looking at the PR's anymore.

    Would like it go back to the old system, or have an 1st Attempt sign.

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  • I’ve just been for a ride which included some roads I’ve ridden before, I came home with loads of PR’s, but to see if I’d beaten a previous time I have to open each segment and see how many attempts I’ve made. It makes no sense at all!

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  • I am not a fan... done a ride..some old segments and some new but can't tell what's a PR because I have improved or what's a PR because it's first time... maybe a different badge or colour... or nothing...

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  • For some reason this change just rolled out to my android client.  Like most of the comments here, I have to say I don't like the change.  It used to be exciting to see the PR badge on a ride... now I do a new route and have a wall of gold for no reason.  It really devalues the PR badge.

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  • Where have you gone Ellen Anderson? The impression I'm getting from your lack of response to the negative feedback is that you're saying "We don't care if you don't like it, we've implemented it so it's in".

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  • Not a fan at all of the PRs for a first attempt...it makes the real PRs I get seem wrorth a lot less.  It is also harder to see any achievements I really earned on a first ride in an area.  It looks like some people really like this feedback, so maybe it can be something you can turn off in your personal settings?

     

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  • Everybody gets a trophy these days.

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  • I do not like this new protocol for recognizing your first time over a segment.  Your first time should be a baseline that future rides are compared against.  This is like everyone getting a trophy at the end of kids recreation soccer season.  In an odd way the PR medal for a first time segment is a negative and not encouraging.  Please reconsider and take this away.  As some have said, go with a "first time" badge if you must recognize it.  When I ride LOTOJA next year I would rather have a ride with no medals than a ride with all PR's.  That would be ridiculous!

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  • Another ride in a new area today (and a very slow one too!), with hundreds of nonsense PRs. PRs are one of the things that makes Strava interesting for me but now they are so meaningless I'm no longer routinely checking the achievements for rides just completed. Strava has become a lot less interesting for me as a result of this "small change".

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  • I don't like the new feature either, your 1st time on a segment should not be a PR.  How can it be a record if it's your 1st time?

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  • Really don't like this. 

     

    PR's are a way of tracking progress on rides that contain old and new segments. They just get lost in the noise now and it's more difficult to see what you've actually PR'd.

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  • Terrible feature. I also thought this had to be a big. It totally devalues PR’s as many have said.

    Please change this back. Pretty please?

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  • You've turned PR badges into participation trophies. I'm actually annoyed that Strava says I have 10 new PRs just because I ran somewhere new. Those aren't PRs, those are first attempts. Give me a PR when I go back and beat my time, that's the true gratification and purpose behind PRs in the first place.

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  • Yeah, I only want "achievements" when I've done something rad. Riding something slowly for the first time is not rad.

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  • I’m not a fan of this new segment PR thing. Don’t see the point. I don’t feel like I’m missing out on not getting PR’s on new segments as it’s not really a
    PR. But more frustratingly, I now don’t know if the PR is a genuine PR on a segment. I’ve done a few rides now that may or may not of included segments I’ve ridden in past rides but now unless I go in to each segment to see previous attempts...I never know which is which. Bit disappointing really.

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  • Just went thru and voted on several of the comments that indicated PR's on a first attempt are a SILLY idea.  I could not agree more.  For any of us following friends, seeing them book 83 PR's on a 40 mile ride REALLY CHEAPENS that friend making a true improvement.  Make it an option in the PROFILE / SETUP section of a my account and I will turn 1st attempt PR's off immediately.  

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  • Come on strava, don’t ignore us....clearly this is NOT a popular feature....isn’t it about time you responded rather than just ignoring the feedback??

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  • I'm finding this nonsense so annoying that I'm seriously considering turning off segments on my rides in future. Achievements are not achievements any more.

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  • Whoever went out for a ride in a new area, came home and said "I just did a PR around that loop!"?

    This is total nonsense. Please put it back.

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  • This is driving me potty! Please allow me toggle this off or preferably return it to how it used to be. I only want PRs when I've IMPROVED a specific time.

    If you want to give out badges more regularly to get people excited, why not introduce an "explorer" badge for every new segment they complete.

    If you want to change the PR system to create more frequent rewards why not add "annual best" OR better still, allow the user to set a reset point (e.g. When they get injured) so they get a "PR" since the injury/ this season etc...it's up to them.

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  • I agree with Sam Bishop and probably many others. It makes no sense at all to get a PR for a "first attempt". It might be accurate but it makes it meaningless. You had it working just fine before as I could look at a new ride and see how I was performing on old segments but now every segment has a PR result making identification of improvement too difficult.

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  • I hate this change. I get all excited when I see the PR’s and then I realize most of them are “first ride” ones. The real PR’s get lost in all the fake ones. Please undo this change. It is NOT an improvement to your software.

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  • Not sure I like this option. It makes for very cluttered viewing on new rides. Of course it's going to be a PR if you've never done the segment before. Kind of useless stat.

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  • In my opinion, this is not a good change. I would not call the first attempt a PR at all. It makes sense to have a PR only when you beat your best previous result. I like the previous implementation better; you can see the segments you did for the first time, but no medals.

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  • No thank you. Please revert this feature. Also, not in favor of 1st attempt badge.

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