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Apple Watch Series 2

Hi, 

Have to ask the question, as Apple hinted that the GPS in the new watch will allow access to developers. Will Strava look at a native Apple Watch app which uses the GPS on the watch?

 

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  • So, I purchased the AW2 with high hopes. It is not Strava that has let us down. It is Apple. All they need to do is allow an export of a gpx file after a run workout and then we could load it into Strava. The AW2 is a fine daily wear watch/activity tracker. It is not a good running watch for Strava users. So, I am happily using my Garmin 235 for running. It turns out that Garmin knows how to make a good running watch and how to send the data to Strava. So, Garmin for running (and it is a great running watch with 10 hours of battery life while tracking heart rate, and accurate GPS) and AW2 the rest of the day. Works for me.

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  • I agree that lack of export capability is dumb, however what drew me to the Apple watch is the native music support.  I don't run without music, and hate lugging a phone around so the AW is the obvious choice.  

    Made the huge mistake of trying Nike's clusterF app.  For now i will use Apple's native app and wait for Strava watch GPS support eagerly.

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  • @Elle Anderson: Thanks for the update! Loving Strava and my AW2 so I can't wait for the updated app.

    Also thanks to Vincent Ghyssens who's awesome website is making it easy to get my data to Strava in the meantime. http://nike.vinz.xyz/

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  • Hi Elle. If the Apple activity app produced a file that Strava could accept after my run then all my problems would be solved (and many others i would imagine). I understand that this is an apple issue but chances are they would listen to Strava before they listen to me. This would improve both the Strava and Apple watch experience. 

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  • When using Runkeeper or Nike Run Club with the AW2 the current pace fluctuates wildly, especially during any kind of interval training. That's just one, albeit core, issue. Maybe Strava is taking so long because the AW2 is flawed technology? I don't envy Strava at all, everyone waiting for them to save the AW2 day. And then when they don't (can't) deliver they get slammed in their reviews. Too bad Strava can't just tell it like it is - AW2 is a pretty thing to look at, but if you want a run watch that gives you reliable run data ready for consumption in an app like Strava get a Garmin.

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  • I'm guessing the AW2 isn't as flawless as Apple sold it to us all. Probably they will release the AW3 with the promise that "it now actually works..."

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  • any update on ETA for series 2 GPS support? It is technically "early 2017" :)

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  • I'd like to see in the update the ability to be able to sync activitys recorded on the apple watch native workout tracker to Strava.

    Do you think this is something that will be in the update?

    It's frustrating on apples behalf not being able to export .tcx files of activitys recorded with the workout app, with the option to then upload them to Strava or other fitness platforms.

    I know of a couple of apps that you can export .tcx files of apples recorded activitys but do not include route data.

    Does anybody know of a work around?

    Or if the update would include the above feature all my problems would be solved. . . .

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  • @Gee Bee, Do you have any evidence that that's the case? Just from an Occam's razor perspective the problem is likely that Strava just hasn't prioritized Apple Watch customers.

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  • First, I have asked about recording swims with the upcoming version of the Strava app for Apple Watch which we are working on:

    We are not working on any additional or specific swim functionality. With the current app, you can select to record a ride or run, and using either of these options you can record an outdoor/open water swim, then after completing the workout select the swim activity type when saving. 

    I recommend that folks start a new thread in our community to start accumulating feedback and support for additional swim functionality with the Strava app for Apple Watch. Thanks! 

     

    @Alan, I'll see if we know anything about functionality to get the data from the native apple watch tracker into Strava.

    To everyone else, work continues but the new version is not ready yet. 

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  • Alan Lawther: Spectarun Workout https://spectarun.com/ does just that. Exports .tcx files. I have yet to test an actual file. Note also that the file does not contain the gps-track because of limitations by Apple in the Health-app which is what Spectarun use to get its data.

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  • @Brendan - only empirical knowledge and some blog reviews. I doubt that AW customers are a low priority for Strava - it's a huge wearables market share win if you get it right. That said nobody has yet so it must come with some big challenges. Apple doesn't make it easy for developers, but I'm more concerned about how both Workout and third party apps have struggled with such a critical measurement like current pace (avg pace seems fine). If you're very steady for an extended amount of time the CP reading is fine, but any fluctuation and it's useless. I'm very curious how Strava will do here since this seems more like a hardware than a software issue. But if they get that right and bring some sorely needed deeper run metrics and analysis to the watch I think they could single-handedly turn the AW2 into a real contender in the running watch game.

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  • Yesterday I updated Strava app, but still can not use the native Apple Watch Series 2 GPS, so I still have to run whit the iPhone, please any news about???

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  • @Gee Bee I totally agree with you. Is very difficult to train with intervals because the pace is not exactly, but the average seems to be correct. But if you try to run with iPhone is more or less the same, I've been training with Endomondo a couple of years and the pace is not correct because the GPS is not always getting info, seems that the information is obtained every 5 seconds (for example) but the app refresh the info every second, so the pace is always changing.

    Probably is not a software issue and is related with the hardware GPS, is possible that this GPS is not exactly the same than others like Garmin, Suntoo, etc and is not possible to get information every second... I don't know.

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  • Hi all, I am looking at an apple watch 2 for my riding this year as an alternative to always taking my phone with me/activating the app on my phone as it kills the battery on longer rides. From what I've read on-line and by scanning this thread the main issues seem to be:

    - Cannot track GPS independently without having the phone on my person

    - The watch has no altimeter so rides would not have any elevation recorded (which takes away half the point of tracking)

    - Loading cycles into strava from the apple default recording app is difficult.

    Can someone briefly confirm/deny if those points are correct? Also would be curious to know if the watch monitoring your heart rate whilst cycling would be able to give a better reading on calories burned etc as currently the app just estimates as I dont have the extra apparel needed.

    Appreciate some of these questions may have already been asked but would appreciate a response, even basic one to help!

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  • How much longer is it going to be surely it can't be that hard!!

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  • Hi @Siva Iyer

     

    - It's not correct, with Apple Watch 2 you can track your ride directly with Workout app (the native one from Apple). The issue is that you cannot export the track, only some data about your ride, but not the map.

    -- However, is possible to track your ride with Strava app and, of course, upload into Strava site. In this moment, the Strava app for AW 2 is not able to use the GPS built-in, so you need to get your mobile... but is temporary and it will be fix on the next version.

     

    - You're right, the Watch has not altimeter. But is you use Strava, Strava knows the track and is able to track the elevation based on the map. Is not exactly because is using the map... but it works.

     

    - To export from Workout app, you need a third-party app. We're using Spectra Run and, with this, you're able to export some data from your ride, but not the track with the map. You can get your heart rate, speed, kilometers, time and so, but not intervals training or the map. Is not very important if Strava app is updated and able to work with the GPS on the Watch, but in this moment is not possible.

     

    Hope this helps!

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  • Hi Elle,

    Any progress on the Strava app for Apple Watch Series 2 since your Oct post?

     

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  • Never mind - seen the thread now...... :)

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  • My guess is that Strava won't release its AW2-App before Feb. 9th.
    That's the day Android Wear 2.0 will be released. One big new feature of Android Wear 2.0 is the possibility to install apps directly to the watch without having to use the smartphone. That's a great news for Iphone-owner with an android-smartwatch.
    Apple doesn't allow an android-appstore and with Android Wear 2.0 Iphone-owner will be able to install apps to an android-smartphone directly.
    Strava surely has such a standalone app ready for Android. The New Balance RunIQ watch will be released in Feb. with Strava pre-installed. Google+LG have announced 2 new watches for the launch, etc.
    So I think Strava won't release its iOS-app before the launch of the Android-app / wear 2 and I think the the 2 apps (iOS, Android) will be very similar.
    Again: this is what I guess, not a fact! :-)

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  • come on Strava.......Apple is the biggest company in the world.....for good reason like it not....they make fantastic software and hardware......Garmin, Polar etc are not, please put apple as a priority, I am a swimmer and road biker using wahoo - cycling to upload to strava and swim 4-5 times a week 12-15k and would love to upload from my apple watch to strava. It seems you have releases to non-apple devices ready sooner, I can only assume because its easier...politically or software wise.

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  • @Salvi Becca, now that makes a lot of sense.  If they're release partners with an alternative watch that's coming out they probably want to push it as the only watch that supports strata natively.  Makes me think we won't be seeing a Strava update until about March so they have a window to sell.  If so, I get the reasoning, but I"m not sure how smart it is to give Apple a window to compete with Strava.  I've already stopped using Strava and started using Apple activity since my watch can actually support.  I'm hoping to move back to Strava once Strava gets it together, but maybe I find myself getting comfortable in the Apple ecosystem?

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  • I read the Strava update for the built in gps woul be released early 2017 and decided to renew my premium subscription for that reason.....even though I don't really need it, but would like to participate being thankfull for the developing they are doing. I wont go premium next time I guess as I rather switching to a provider where I am not required to run along with my phone as well as a gps watch.

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  • Strava hurry the F up!!!

     

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  • Anyway the Nike app is pretty cool as it stops when you stop running. Strava should integrate those features with the native Apple app (with GPS data put on a map) but also add the possibility to  have splits recorded in an interval training session.  #cmonstrava

     

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  • For those of you who have asked about activities recorded with the Health app (as a native Apple Watch activity tracker) syncing to Strava: 

    Currently, we sync some Strava metrics to the Health app. However, we do not currently sync any data the other way, like activities, from Health to Strava. We could - and it is up for discussion, in the early stages.

    If you support this development, I recommend starting a new thread to be more effective in adding your support to that specific discussion. Thanks! 

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  • Hi Elle,

     

    it would be a great idea to sync from health to strava, so you can use the aw2 for all the other trainings, like swiming, workouts and use strava to analyse all sport activities.

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  • I've been running Phone Free on my Apple Watch 2 using Runkeeper.  I then sync my Runkeeper runs with Strava and Garmin using https://tapiriik.com/

    Looking forward to Strava's entry into the Phone Free Market.

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  • Seeing as it's now February, could we please get an official update comment from Strava? This continues to be an extremely frustrating issue.

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  • Why did my comment get deleted? And without notification too. That is very rude...

     

    Can we please have an update regarding the use of Strava on an Apple Watch without the need to take an iPhone out with you. I am waiting to use Strava as my main tracker but at the moment I cannot due to this restriction. I purchased the watch so that I didn't have to take the phone out with me!

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