History of changes in weight, FTP, and other changeable variables over time

As weight  and FTP change over time, so do watts/kg etc.  It would be interesting to be able to track progress of weight loss (for example) and increases in watts/kg over time.  It would also be interesting for strava as a company to be able to see the total weight lost, or power/kg gained by their members!  Proof the website has a positive effect on people!

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  • FTP shows your fitness.  It should be updated to reflect your current status.

    Training Load (TSS) indicates how hard you worked *w.r.t your ftp at that time*.

    It should not be changed retrospectively.

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  • +1 - progress over time is THE reason i use Strava! 

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  • Agree with all the people above that concluded that the lack of a proper FTP history (either editable or just stored) ruins the fitness curve for power meter users as "retrospectively updating" each activity's Training Load skews the curve's training impulses. Hence I'm better off using other tools and apps (like Golden Cheetah) and see less and less value in paying for a "Premium" service :-/

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  • God yes, this should be fixed, retrospectively changing the curve is breathtakingly annoying

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  • Having started power training 4 weeks ago, I've just done my 2nd FTP test, increased it and all the TSS scores have changed! Just updated in Veloviewer and they've all changed there too! Arrrgghhhh! Seems fairly fundamental, and over 3 years...

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  • i have also just discovered this flaw - put in a new FTP and surprised to see al previous rides adjusted, rendering fitness curve rather less representative. Need a way to go back and enter FTP / weight data points at various intervals.

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  • Please add this feature......for all the reasons above

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  • I agree with all that has been said. I am very surprised I have not yet seen a reply from Strava. This is pretty important, please fix. I probably won't be renewing my paid subscription and use another software to analyze my data.

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  • This really is a fundamental flaw in the software and makes using the Fitness and Freshness "Premium" feature pretty darn useless.  The fact that it was pointed out 3 years ago and still has not been resolved (or even acknowledged) is a complete mystery to me.  Strava, FYS.

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  • +1

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  • +1

    How can you take so long to fix this mistake ?

    It really makes the fitness/freshness useless, and I will have to go back to my old WKO+...

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  • 3 1/2 Years later and nothing on this. There are many new feature requests that are narrowly focused and I can understand them being low priority for Strava...This Is Not One Of Them!!!

    It is a fundamental flaw and really should be addressed...

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  • I would just like to add another voice to those above, calling for this feature to be added.

    In addition to the reasoning above, I would suggest that the only reason there are not more people calling for this feature is that they have already given up on Strava - they can't wait - and they are using WKO+, Golden Cheetah or something else which meets their needs.

    Most of the people on this list will already be doing something similar and there is only so long they will continue to upload data to two systems and pay more than they need to.

    Strava, if you are looking to remain relevant to training cyclists, then this change is a must.

    ...did we say please at the start of this..? Would that help? :)

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  • 3 1/2 years and still nothing.

    It quite simply defies belief. How can this issue go unnoticed or ignored for so long?

    I don't understand how Strava can be so disconnected with its community on this issue. They must have lost thousands upon thousands of potential long-term customers due to this one "bug" - and that's what it is - simply a "bug".

    (if this has pinged to your email as a notification, I urge you to open a new support ticket with Strava linking to this post and asking them what is up).

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  • Strava team:

    if you are reading this... don't just read the initial post of this thread and write it off. The initial post is a bit of a red herring anyway. We aren't all talking about tracking weight changes.

    READ THE SUBSEQUENT COMMENTS ABOUT PRIOR DATA CHANGING WHEN FTP CHANGES. THIS IS THE CRUX OF THE COMPLAINT.

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  • Fitness freshness graph, just good enough to look impressive for noobs and casuals, but dumb enough not to compete with training peaks core cash cows. Must be some private agreement not to develop this feature.

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  • @lukasran The thought had occurred to me too. It's certainly not software complexity preventing this implementation, and the Strava team surely know the full landscape of training algorithms inside out by now. With those two things ruled out, perhaps it does come down to an intellectual property issue.

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  • +1
    Changing FTP, HR zones or weight should not affect previous record...

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  • What's happening with this request?

    I just updated my weight but the Power Curve (w/kg) for recent rides doesn't provide an accurate picture given my current weight.

    I understand it is a more complicated request to ask for my weight during a certain period to be used to reflect my Power Curve (for w/kg) over that same period, but right now my power curve is meaningless because it doesn't reflect my power numbers mixed with my most recent weight. I literally have to calculate my numbers myself, despite paying an annual membership to an app that I expect will do this for me...

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  • Can somebody responsible from Strava team clearly make a statement whether this requested feature will finally be implemented soon (and when exactly) or not? Thanks a lot

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  • November 27, 2013 17:44 Strava... November 27, 2013 17:44

    That's when this was first raised and not even a reply? The section is called new feature ideas, right? Please help us understand if/when this might be possible to implement.

     

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  • I sense that Strava is looking for a niche in social, #GIVEKUDOS and all that jazz. If you want these features best spending the money on TrainingPeaks or going for open source like Golden Cheetah. Stopped paying Strava Premium a long time ago.

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  • The lack of acknowledgement on this very issue in regards ti training tracking is why i DID NOT renew my subscription.

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  • While Strava has failed to even address this, a wonderful API developer has addressed this to some degree with his Chrome plugin for Strava.  Support him: https://twitter.com/champagnethomas/status/1039820161061203968

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  • As others has said, not having your historical data reflect your fitness at the time of the activity removes one of the greatest motivators: seeing how one has "turned back the clock" (on aging) and striving to get more fit than the day/month/year before even as we get older.  Big miss not implementing this feature early on.

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  • Jess, I'm a bit stunned that after 5 years you're just now thinking it might be a good idea to pass this on. It's not rocket science for the developers to understand that tracking fitness over time requires accurate data input, and that changing the relationship between FTP / weight and training stress retrospectively will have a deleterious effect on accuracy. Ignoring this in the F+F development just shows Strava's disinterest in making Strava a useful tool for training. While I love the logging, social and competitive aspects, it's utterly useless as a multisport (or even single sport) training platform.

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  • Jess, I'm a bit stunned that after 5 years you're just now thinking it might be a good idea to pass this on. It's not rocket science for the developers to understand that tracking fitness over time requires accurate data input, and that changing the relationship between FTP / weight and training stress retrospectively will have a deleterious effect on accuracy. Ignoring this in the F+F development just shows Strava's disinterest in making Strava a useful tool for training. While I love the logging, social and competitive aspects, it's utterly useless as a multisport (or even single sport) training platform.

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  • Peter - I laughed out loud (forgive the cliche) when I saw the reply from Jess. I think I'd have actually preferred the continued radio silence, at least that would indicate they were consciously ignoring the problem for one reason or another. Now Strava just look utterly incompetent. 5 years to acknowledge the issue... care to estimate how long to fix the bug? A conservative 15 years perhaps?

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  • If I were a cynical person, I might be tempted to say that Stava's sudden interest was embarrassment brought on by the massive cheer they heard when Stavistix announced the "Dated Athlete Settings"...as in..."oh wow, look, many of our users are smarter than we think".  But I am not a cynical person, so I won't say that. Besides that is not constructive (as requested)...:)

    In all honestly lets hope this is a positive sign that Stava has seen the light and is getting serious about the training usefulness of the app...!

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  • :)

    I've long since moved on from Strava to a tool that works, but - not knowing how to unsubscribe from the alerts - this thread has been a consistent source of eye-rolls and chuckles over the past couple of years. Back when I started this thread, the fitness & freshness feature was the ONLY thing the Premium package offered. It astonishes me that the organizational structure of Strava is such that this has gone unnoticed and/or ignored for so long. Andrew, you're right, it is an embarrassment, perhaps the penny has dropped, and I fully expect this entire thread to be deleted by them soon. Well done Thomas on shining a light on this.

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