Ski / Snowboard Stats (and Leaderboards?)

Some simple skiing stats would be great. I mean, we have the "Ski" and "Backcountry Ski" Types... but there is no useful information pulled from them

For Alpine Ski (and snowboard):

  • Vertical Descent
  • Runs
  • Lap (Run) Speeds
  • Lap (Run) Descent
  • Do NOT record lift rides as climbing

For Backcountry Ski:

  • All of the above, but include climbing

For a larger project, creating ski-appropriate leaderboards. Traditional "Speed is king" would be a liability nightmare...  but for Alpine, crowns could be determined by some creative metric:

  • # of laps on a single run in one 24 hour period
  • Area King: for a bounded area of alpine skiing (lift-served area) cumulative vertical (descent) in one day
  • Steeps King: Best vertical to horizontal distance ratio for the day
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  • I was wondering if there was anyway that you guys could add the vertical feet skied. I do a lot of backcountry skiing as well as resort skiing. I like the elevation gain feature especially for the backcountry, but it would be really nice if Strava would show my vertical feet skied without having to figure it out on my own
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  • For me it's the same problem. In alpine skiing we basically "collect" downhill meters...so it would make sense if at alpine skiing (and int other sports where "downhill" matters) we could see the vertical descent, instead of elevation climber. Or we have both of it - which would be useful e.g. at all-mountain and enduro biking...

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  • And I think automatic climb generation is not necessary at alpine skiing.

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  • It seems as though Strava might not have the resources to take on feature requests for there other activity types, as they've outlined in other threads that Cycling and Running are their core activities.

    I haven't used the Trace App yet for snowboarding but it was brought to my attention that they do a good job at distinguishing between "lifts" and "slope runs/vertical drop" on the map and in the data recorded. I still throw on Strava when snowboarding as I'd like for all my activities to be in one place but the data is quite useless.

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  • The last 2 winters I used tracesnow (alpinereplay). It's nice, it offers a lot of information and has a big community. Still I would like to have the data for skiing in the same place with the data for riding. It is easier for me to have a tab for skiing next the one for riding and running. I think you have also better experience with comparisons, data display, graphics and other visual presentation. Also you already have the android/ios app which capture data from the GPS.

    Thank you and hope you will invest more money and human resources in this area.

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  • Related - I'd like to join a season-long ski and snowboard event and then be able to tally up the winter of '15-'16 total vert alpine (down) and total vert backcountry (up).

    Thanks guys!

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  • I agree with this request for an expansion of the ski functionality.

    I have skiied for 10 of the last 14 days but my fitness/freshness stats on Strava look like I have been sitting around the whole time and fitness has gone through the floor. I wear a HRT monitor/power strap so the data is recorded and uploaded to Strava but it does not register in the fitness section. 

    The functionality of the Strava skiing activity seems limited when compared to something like Ski Tracks, the iPhone app by Core Coders. Ski Tracks provides useful statistics on a day's skiing and differentiates skiing from lift travel so that effort is more accurately tracked.

    Can Strava can adopt some of the Ski Tracks ideas plus transfer the relevant (downhill) HRT data intot he fitness/freshness section?

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  • As we roll into winter this thread/topic needs more traction. Like others said I'd like to keep all my activities in one app, but the "Ski" option provided is mostly worthless for the reasons mentioned. With alpine skiing the only metric that *really* matters is vertical drop (currently labeled "Elevation" for some reason). Distance, speed, time, etc are nice but have little currency. Also would be good to have the app auto-detect the area you're at, display Leaderboards by area (by day and season) as well as the total number of days skied (by area and season total). I currently use both Ski Tracks as well as Trace Snow, and both of them have nice features, but Strava should be the gold standard of all outdoor activities. 

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  • As stated by previous commenters, it would be great to be able to keep track of all my activities on one app. I love the Strava App.  For biking it is THE BEST way to keep track of every stat you might want, however it really is useless for anything lift served.  There are other apps, such as Trace Snow, that can tell if you are on a lift or not.  Would it be that difficult to add some real functionality to the Alpine Ski option and add a Downhill MTB option that could detect lifts and not make them "climbs"?  Other ski apps are a real drain on the battery.  Also, the fact that the Trace 
    Snow app ALWAYS uses your location, even when you are not recording is a definite issue for me.  Another thing I love about Strava is that it only uses your location when you are using the app. 

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  • If they simply had an auto detection feature for lifts so as not to count those towards your vertical gain, or any other stat or segment, you wouldn't even need the distinction between backcountry, alpine or skimo activity types. 

    However, all activities should all be on elapsed time (like race for running) and moving time secondary.

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  • I say this as a Garmin user as they can auto detect lifts in alpine ski mode but completely cut your uphill data (it just skips to the top and you have a straight line) so unless you start a new backcountry activity, none of your uphill skining will be included (but at this point you have to remember to change the activity back before you get on a lift again). 

    A lot of backcountry skiing in Europe involves taking a lift or two and I do not want to have several different activities during the day.... hence why have the distinction? Uphill vert, Downhill vert and Lift vert on the other hand should be distinguished and apply to all Alpine activities regardless of the label (you can even add these feature for MTB riders if you needed the extra incentive or excuse).

    Please!!! I want Strava to be my one stop shop for sport. 

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  • What I do, and this is annoying, is turn on the app at the top of the run and off again at the bottom. This way I can easily see how many runs I did, where the runs went etc.... I just used Ski Tracks for the first time last week on my trip to Colorado. It did a pretty good job. I ran it in tandem with single tracking. It could detect exactly how many runs I did. When I was on the lift. The mileage was close, the vertical was close. I am really not sure how either of them track that, but it was within a few hundred feet so I am not going to complain. 

    As mentioned, it is annoying to turn off/on, especially when it is bitterly cold where I normally board in Vermont. Plus, sometimes I forget a run here and there. It would be great if Strava actually did all the stat work when you select Ski/Snowboard. I will continue to use Ski Tracks, but probably import the runs here as it is mobile only. I was able to split my runs up via http://iamdanfox.github.io/gpxsplitter/ then import them and then crop them, but that just seems like way to much of an effort - especially when a computer should be able to do it all for me.

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