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All tied KOMs/QOMs/CRs should count and register on Profiles

Currently, if you equal a KOM, your achievement is only recognised on that segment's leader board. It is not recognised and does not appear in your personal list of KOMs on the 'KOMs/CRs' section of your profile page. This to me seems non-sensical and unfair, as that KOM only appears on the profile page of the person who first set the current KOM. Surely if two or more people have achieved the same time, they should each have it recognised in their personal list of KOMs on their profile page. It is by definition a shared record, and should be recognised by all who share it. 

Or, if it is only possible to recognise one person for whatever - as it currently appears to be - it should appear on the profile page of the premium member, as they are financially contributing to the Strava site.   

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  • Official comment

    Thanks everyone for sharing your feedback with us about tied KOMs, QOMs and CRs.

    Due to the overwhelming number of potential projects on our roadmap, we haven't had the chance to consider this yet.

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  • Is there a fix for this coming?

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  • I truly wish this would be sorted out. Surely it cannot be that difficult Strava for you to show the jointly held KOM segments. To achieve a KOM is a great personal achievement and shows your own personal improvement but then to discover that something so hard fought for has not been fully recognised is a tad annoying. Come on Strava, help us out.

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  • I AGREE WITH THE ABOVE, AND IS THERE A FIX COMING AS ALSO REQUESTED BY JEFF

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  • Agreed-  Please fix

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  • It should not be too difficult for Strava to fix/solve this. I am also using Veloviewer; on this page they do show my shared KOMs as 'my' KOM.
    Hopefully someone from Strava can help us. Or at least place some feedback in this topic.. Thanks in advance.

    Keep up the good work!

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  • I too agree that tied-KOMs should show up on each rider's profile page. Considering the segment's leaderboard permits sharing of KOM, I see no reason for Strava to not list the shared KOM on both riders' profiles. This has happened to me since my training partner reached home before me and uploaded his ride first despite the fact that we rode the segment together. The logic of giving KOM to rider who uploaded first makes no sense to me.

    I hope Strava fixes this soon.

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  • Agree 100% needs fixing (surely a simple fix...?)

    Especially on short segments where leading times can be 40s or so.

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  • Only noticed this issue this week. It does seem unfair. 

    Hope it gets fixed soon.

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  • Agreed, but doesn't look like Strava is in a hurry to fix this.

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  • Agree. By definition equal KOMs should be shared equally.

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  • I just started cycling this year and using Strava so for me it was a big achievement to get my first KOM.  Only to learn that it was a tie so it never showed up on my page:(

    please fix.

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  • I have over 100 tied KOMs that don't show in my list as I'm not the one who rode it first. As has been said, Veloviewer can manage it so can't be difficult to sort. It's annoying when you get thing like last years end of year report, only to find out the data included isn't actually correct. It would be nice for Strava to list ALL of my KOMs.

     

    Come on Strava sort it out!

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  • Yes this is crazy. On the day you get a tied KOM, strava  reports it as a KOM, to me if its reported as a KOM it should appear in your personal list as a KOM.

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  • Unfortunately applies to me too at segment Rollercoaster and guess what - when I tried to find this additional second just last weekend I again ended up with the very same time of 2:38!

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  • I see how many would want a KOM to show on their profile list of KOM's since it was an equal achievement. However, I disagree with Tom Parker stating  that one should appear on the profile a person with a Premium membership solely because they pay money and they alone should be singled out for preferred treatment. Strava is an online competition server recording site and the person that achieved a KOM 'FIRST', should actually get it on their profile list. Anyone else should only get a KOM recorded for a segment if they were in the same activity at the same time while they were riding together and racing together.

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  • Agree with the OP. Is anyone from Strava looking at correcting this?

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  • Give me my 20+ shared KOMs! I bet 1 developer could fix this issue in 1 day. Please listen to your users (a paying one in this case) and fix this long standing issue.

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  • @ Jeff - Appreciate you finally commenting on this after 2 years. To many serious riders a KOM is a MAJOR achievement, and it is getting very hard to achieve one. For this not to be on your road map is really very weak. Premium membership will not be on my roadmap until this fault (and yes it is a fault) is rectified. I mean how difficult can it be?

    Perhaps if I am lucky you will get round to reading this in another 2 years 

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  • as above?????

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  • Really, to echo what everyone else has said about it, it's a joke to be recognized on the leaderboard for that segment but no where else. If I didn't remember the two tied KOM efforts I have no one else would know at all and or remember.

    It's rather moronic to say oh we have to much to do we really can't go back and fix a rather large mistake we made.

    Do the people that work at Strava actually do physical activity? No one in their right mind who runs or rides would have said, "Yes, it's a great idea to not give the person credit in their own KOM list for that segment where they just tied the segment KOM holder."

    Really....I find it outrageous that this 1) was the answer that was generated when you decided to exclude these and 2) that you can't seem to find time to fix it.

    From where I sit there's an awful lot of effort being spent on things that really don't matter, like algo feed (no one asked for) and matched runs (horrible idea) or best estimates that the user cannot turn off!! (another ridiculous waste of time). So how can it be so hard giving people something they actually want?

    Why have the most recent projects, that seem to be nothing but annoyances to users, involve taking away choices from people? All of the things I listed above as wastes of time eliminate choice because you cannot turn any of them off!

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  • Yup, this makes no sense - those who've been on Strava longer have an effective advantage, and this problem will only get worse as more people join strava and create more ties on koms. There is no valid analogy here to world records I would say, as they generally have millisecond timing that make genuine ties very rare.
    Extend this out far enough into the future, and it will take a superhuman effort to become "the KOM", rather than just joint kom, with no record of it in your stats. And even in the short term (even with Veloviewer currently), there's no way to identify which koms you've tied, to maybe have another go at - all you can do is derive the count of them (as far as I can see).

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  • Having got more ties recently, I raised this directly with Strava too. They understood, they just don't really care. "...currently no plans to fix this are in the works." No additional users or revenue from it, so low priority I guess, even if most people affected by it are probably premium paying members.

    From a fix point of view, it is probably pretty trivial, but at the moment, I doubt they've even created a work item or estimated a fix time for it. In the meantime, maybe up-voting Tom's post might help?

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  • Strava does not see it as something 'serious' yet. See reply I received from their support.

    " Victor,

    Thanks for reaching out. At the moment, there are no plans in the works change the way the leaderboards display. Your best bet is to chime in on the forums with feedback. Should it become an idea we're more seriously looking into, that feedback would then be taken into consideration.

    Best,
    Miko
    Strava Support Team"

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  • Agreed, but it shouldn't be premium related.

    Was completely let down today when getting my first KOM. Worked my butt off for ages only to find out it didn't show shared KOMs

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  • Another +1 from me here.

    It is nonsensical that it shows you: 1st equal on the leaderboard, marks KOM in the activity feed, marks KOM in ride overview, marks KOM in My Profile achievements; but does not list the segment in KOMs/CRs.

    All I want is a list of segments where I have been the fastest rider. Fastest being the superlative - there is no one faster.

    Strava may not believe it is important, but it is my biggest gripe with the app. So much so that I have taken the time to write a comment.

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    Come on Strava just sort this.

    All you have to do is mark them 'Tied KOM' in some way and everyone is happy.

    I've got a bunch of Tied KOMs that I'd like to keep track of in the KOM page, just seems daft not to show them.

     

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  • Agree 100%  - Strava is about segments and KOMs for most of the users. A KOM is KOM and does not matter when we got it. Please fix it!!!

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  • Happened to me today. KOM tied 3 ways on legit seg with 800+ on LB. Doesn't show in my trophy case. That sucks. Fix it

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  • It is interesting that when you tie on a KOM and it shows exactly the same speed and time the person is not recognized for it.

    Here is a perfect example: https://www.strava.com/activities/1865645835/segments/46810477767

    Why when the data shows the same is it that both are not awarded the KOM ?

    Thanks in advance.

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