New Run Activity Pages

Please leave us your comments and feedback for the new Run Activity pages here.

Great news, runners: your new run activity page on Strava.com is now live. We spoke to tons of you about what is important when viewing your activities and those of others, and have incorporated your needs and experiences as runners into this new page. 

Some of the new features:

  • Social Bar: We added a social bar to the top of the page, putting your activity title, description, comments, kudos, Instagram photos, and other athletes on your run front and center.
  • Sharing Module:  Easily share your run to Facebook, Twitter, Google+, email, or embed in your blog from the sharing module located at the top, left-hand corner of the page.
  • Key Stats: Distance, time, average pace and elevation are located between the Social Bar and Elevation & Performance Chart. Your mile/km splits from your run are located on the right-hand side of your activity map.
  • Top Results: Get a snapshot of your achievements for the run, including any goals you have accomplished, PRs for best efforts, and segment achievements. 
  • Elevation & Performance Chart: We’ve vastly improved the visual interaction for reviewing and scrubbing all your activity details. Use the cursor to look at your pace, elevation, grade adjusted pace and grade at any point during your run.
  • Premium Analysis: We've rolled out changes to the Pace analysis and distribution, including the new analysis specific to a race. Now you can designate a run activity as a "Race" and get interactive and granular data such as race splits and projected finish times. 
  • Segment Efforts, Stats & Comparison: We’ve optimized the Segment Efforts within your activity so you can quickly scan your most meaningful achievements. We display key stats of your effort along with your leaderboard ranking. And when you’re looking at another athlete’s segment effort, you’ll be able to compare your PR against theirs.

Some of the changes: There are aspects of the run activity pages that are not currently available, with some of these aspects scheduled to return, redesigned, at a later date:

  • Viewing the Performance Chart with 'time' as the x-axis: The new performance chart is set with 'distance' as the x-axis, and we plan to re-add the option to switch to 'time' in the near future (coming soon). 
  • Lap data from a Garmin device: Will now be visible underneath the Segments view in the left sidebar for Free and Premium users.
  • Segment Comparison: The ability to compare your segment effort with your PR and/or the CR for the segment has been removed, and will return after a redesign incorporating the features from http://raceshape.com/.
  • Run "Score": The run intensity score that appeared previously under the Analysis tab is no longer available, but will return when the calculation is more accurate. 
  • GAP for mile splits: We're currently working on our algorithm for GAP. Once the algorithm is improved, GAP split data will be displayed on our new Premium Pace & Race Analysis pages.
  • Best Efforts: The technology available used to generate Best Efforts was not up to our high standard of accuracy. Due to this, we will continue to display any PRs you receive for the next few weeks, but then we will turn off Best Efforts in its current form. Over the next few months, we'll continue to explore innovative and relevant ways to bring this feature back to all users once it has reached our high standards of accuracy. We apologize for this change.

Some Known Issues:

  • FIXED Performance Issues: We're hard at work improving the performance issues that have been reported. Improvements coming soon.
  • FIXED Hidden Segments: Hidden segments will be re-adding this week (we still need to add the ability to hide and unhide segments)
  • FIXED Elevation Correction for your Run: Will be re-added very soon.
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  • Pete, good point about the crowd sourcing.  With that in mind, here are the things I miss:

    1. The chart of mile, elevation gain/loss for that mile, pace for that mile, GAP pace for that mile, that used to be top right of the screen.

    2. Large square map

    3. In line editing of title (now I have to click to an edit page?  Why? - I liked the fast edit in line.)

    4. Segment comparison with others on the leaderboard

    5. Achievements at the bottom in one long list.  I don't understand the "top 4" business - how are you calculating my top 4?  And why are these suddenly in the top section - I want to look at my map and splits, not "Achievements" that are filtered by some unknown algorithm.

    6. A graph where there is an actual y axis.  I hated that the pace zones were a strange algorithmic scale that was a larger range than my actual paces (never did run a 2-4 minute mile, people!) but I liked very much to see the general trend of my run - what general zone was I in throughout, and where did I surpass 8 min/mile pace, or drop below 12 min/mile.

    7. The overlay of GAP and actual pace - so I could see where elevation affected my speed.  I do a lot of hill runs, so this was interesting.

    8. Right hand comment pane - where I could see comments in a list.

    9. Best efforts for different segments of the run 5k, 10K, etc.  The accuracy was plenty good for me.

    10. Highlighted segments in the elevation chart - loved seeing what segments existed and had been predefined by others, and clicking on them to see teh leader boards.

    Things I don't like about the new interface:

    1. The drag line that shows instantaneous pace, elevation - I just don't really care about instantaneous anything - the phone and Garmin are not that accurate so instantaneous speed is typically plus or minus 30 sec/mile. That drag bar gives me nothing useful.

    2. The squashed map.

    3. The fact that there is no longer a "run by" section that shows my name and my friends names with links back to our profiles - I used those links to navigate.

    4. The introduction of the "device" and "shoes" to the critical data pane at the top right - those are FAR from critical data and have no business there.  They should be with the other non critical data (temp, elapsed and actual time etc., like they were before.)  The critical data used to be large, easy to read and at the top - that makes sense to me - I want to know, distance, time, elevation and calories immediately when I look at the run.  The large font and across the top in the old interface was correct.  This off to the right with elevation and calories small is worse.

    5. Finally, I think the new interface is really aimed at road runners (except for the part where you eliminated laps, which road runners love since they are doing speedwork regularly - BIG MISS there)  Elle's casual remark that "VAM is only for cyclists" is obviously not true for mountain and trail runners, and to simply dismiss the comments here that trail and mountain runners make is a conscious decision to lop off a valuable section of your users.  Trail running is BOOMING.  Ultras are springing up all over the place, and Strava could be on the forefront here - but the road centric attitude wont get you there.

    I love Strava, and I really hope you consider carefully the comments and feedback on this forum - there is no harm in rolling back something that really isn't what your users want.  Maybe if what you are truly after is premium subscribers (which you should be - you are a business after all!) give the Premium folks the option to roll back.  I'd definitely pay for that!

    Thanks for listening.

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  • I agree. I was only on a rolling Premium account so I've canned it for those reasons.

    There’s an interesting dichotomy. On one hand Strava folks may think ‘There are only a couple of hundred negative comments and 50 or so issues’. Yet many of the changes have been made with the more analytical user in mind. These are the people complaining. The casual user will be happy with a map, comments, segments and an online recording service. They’re never likely to complain.

    Enough functionality has been retained for me to continue using Strava as a free service, but simple things like the removal of VAM, the continued omission of both average and max heart rate, the stupid idea to strip out the Pace/HR/Elevation charts to make them individual, how those charts are formatted, removing the lap view, the huge reduction in map size, the crazy amount of screen real estate given to the left sidebar when in an activity… It just smacks of incompetence.

    You can't enhance the value of Premium by lowering the value of the Free service. That's not ethical. If I can see metrics in seconds on my watch, it should be free on a web service. The race analysis was great, the weekly targets were cool... But never in a million years are they worth £5 a month.

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  • Two quick notes for you all -

    1. We will look into the "Create a New Segment" button at the bottom of the Segments page. However you can create a new segment from any part of the new Run Activity pages by clicking the "wrench" icon that is next to the edit button.

    2. The ability to zoom in on a particular section of the Performance Graph and see the associated stats is scheduled to return soon - we have no intention of removing this capability permanently and we are working on this.

    Thanks!

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  • @Elle Anderson:

    Just a comment to your point 1: I've tried that, but the "wrench" option does not offer anything else than "Flag Run" when it's not your own activity.

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  • What I really miss most is the ability to find details about specific pieces of runs. I am training for a hilly race (The San Fran Marathon) and am trying to train at a specific pace on a specific elevation profile so I can know I am prepared to hit my race goal. Previously, I was able to highlight specific sections of my runs and get important details that are crucial to my training such as:

    -The average grade of a hill that is not a created segment and how that grade compares to hills on the San Fran course

    -My average pace and heart rate on a hill that is not a segment to see how I perform on such a climb

    -My average pace and heart rate on portions of an overall run so I can separate these from warm up and cool down miles in my analysis

    -My average pace on intervals that do not break neatly into mile splits (800 repeats for example)

    My main use for Strava is as a powerful training tool that can best prepare me for upcoming races. If I no longer have this functionality to select a portion of a run and view heart rate, elevation/grade, and pace, I will have to find a new platform for my running data.

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  • Elle - any feedback on the performance issue of the browser having to chug through the manifest file?  Page is pretty unusable for me with that issue.

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  • Could we at least get this rolled back while you finish coding it? The site is unusable as it is and if I could find a good alternative I would have changed already. I'm not a premium user yet due to lack of support for Polar HRM but hopefully my vote still counts (it represents several over votes as well since we'd all move together to a different platform!)

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  • @Elle:

    I think if you made this 'upgrade' the free version and the previous 'classic' version premium, you would have a rush of subscriptions.

    Also, if you have " no intention of removing this capability permanently" why not wait until you had an 'upgrade' that worked in full before inflicting it on runners, many of whom have now paid for a service they are not getting. 

    Also, I find the amount of space that the 'achievements' panel takes up, at the expense of the larger map,  very odd.

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  • Does anyone know if it's possible to bulk download all data from Strava?

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  • I thought I'd come on here to give my feedback. I completed a track session tonight and I am disappointed that I cannot view my lap splits. Other than that and it is a major problem (I'll type them manually in the description) I like the new layout.

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  • I find -as well as the dreadful lag in loading and performance - that one of the more annoying things is viewing  the comments. WHen I click on comments Strava freezes and I have to close the window and log in again. Its a pity because I used to spend more time in Strava, but find myself using the mobile app more because of the problems.

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  • I'm out! New platform is useless. Will go back to suffering with Garmin Connect.
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  • The new platform for runs is basically unusable on Safari. It is *painfully* slow to the extent that I won't upload runs anymore. Freezes the entire STrava for minutes. This may work on the super high-end machines your developers work on while sitting next to the server, but definitely not for average users. Strongly suggest to roll back to the old version. Was much more useful!!

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  • All this just seems to be gearing towards, PREMIUM.  More and more will only be available in premium mode.  I moved away from another product which did exactly the same, archived off historical data and only made it available when to Premium users.  I for one and seems like many other others where happy with the application as it was. RF

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  • quote "ll this just seems to be gearing towards, PREMIUM"

    I am a premium member and I find it just a rubbish as if I was a non-premium so people shouldn't think that if they upgrade then it will be ok.  This update has basically made the run pages more or less useless for me.  Fortunately I still upload everything to Garmin Connect so I've started to use that for post run analysis.

    If they do the same thing for the cycling pages then I'll be seeking a refund of my premium membership as it's only just been renewed.

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  • @SimonOrange I do the same with Polarpersonaltrainer which is actually much better than Strava in every way. The one big "but" to that being that it lacks the social aspect of Strava which I find valuable enough to go to the effort of uploading to both. I suspect that you'll have the same issue with Garmin as they will require all your friends to have the same device. The real strength of Strava was the cross platform nature and sociable aspects but now I can't load friends runs, they can't load mine, and it doesn't seem to work on any platform so it's starting to feel kind of pointless. I've just realised that it doesn't seem to be ad supported so perhaps my vote shouldn't count as I don't contribute to the costs. I'd assumed until I looked that there were adverts for sports stuff to pay for my usage :)

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  • Quite a few days in now and 'Run' on Safari is still performing worse than the worse Beta I've ever had the 'joy' of testing. I can't actually use it and have to close the browser window and reload the Strava dashboard.

    Are you not listening Strava - this is rubbish and runners are leaving this platform; functionality will determine who stays over fancy graphic every time.

    DO NOT DO THIS TO CYCLING - PLEASE!

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  • I have lost a LOT of respect for Strava since this update. It was an unwise decision to roll out such a poor update, which massive performance issues and far less intuitive data analysis. I can't even load my long runs! 

    The first thing I'd do after an interval type workout is select & zoom into a particular part of my workout with pace / HR selected. This would allow me to drill down into how hard I was working during the 'sets' and easily compare against similar workouts. I still haven't figured out how I can do this now in the new layout... In fact I can't even tell what the overview graph is telling me? Absolutely useless!

    I just don't get how anyone would approve this update for release?? Obviously not a runner...

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  • And what's so special about the 'race analysis'? It's simply kilometer splits. Pretty basic feature is it not?

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  • I really need to use the laps.  Is this just a mistake that will be corrected, or was it overlooked?  We also used to have avg hr on splits/laps.  Just roll it back please, I like the old look too.

    X3 of my running friends.

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  • Another bug... I couldn't see how to edit the name of my run, so I clicked "Add a description" and that took me to a page "Edit your Run" - a bit odd - but the minor bug is that in "Details" on that page it says "99 years ago".

    By the way, I don't know if this is possible to fix - for runs I use a Forerunner 110 but it is always shown on Strava as a Forerunner 210.

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  • So I just looked at a new run page for someone that I follow for a marathon and the page loads much quicker than when I look at my own marathon.  

    I ma guessing that he isn't using a 1 second recording interval on his garmin whereas I am - so much much more data?  Maybe strava did all their testing with files with smart recording?  That would be a bit embarrassing wouldn't it.

    Imagine what would happen with an 8 hour ride file with 1 second recording!!

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  • Please bring back average heart rate per mile that was posted next to the mile splits like the old version. It was more useful in that location.   I prefer the old version as well and would like to see a roll back.  My two cents.

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  • So just checked and the marathon that loads faster (still not realy fast) was recorded with a forerunner 110, that only has smart recording.  Mine was recorded with a 910XT on 1 sec recording.  

    Come on Strava - just admit you have messed up on this one and revert to the old page until you have this figured out.  Am guessing you would get a whole lot more respect if you did that rather than giving us the silent treatment on this major oversight!

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  • I echo everyone's disappointment with the most recent Strava update, it was a major step backwards.  Strava used to be far ahead of any other competitor like MapMyRun, RunKeeper, Endomondo, etc.  Now it's just another one in the mix.  Very disappointed.  I am on a month to month subscription and am definitely considering canceling my subscription if no improvement and at this time by improvement I just mean give us back the functionality that was actually useful to training, don't take them away.  As stated above, roll back, roll back, roll back!!!!!!!

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  • So seeing what laps I've created manually by pressing buttons on my Garmin is being moved to the Premium "Analysis" section is it?  This seems very odd given that Strava's doing no value add or running any algorithms on this and is simply showing what was downloaded.  Makes looking at many of my runs on Strava pretty pointless.  So much for increasing the user base.  

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  • I really really really don't like it.

    I want to see in one view the laps and segments i did, just like in the cycling view.

    How can i see that i had a KOM on my running training on 17 april ( spoor>ronding-hoogstepunt)?????

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  • Tomorrow makes it a week of annoying lots of users. Please PLEASE ROLL BACK PLEASE! Live on a very successful global website is not the way to test unless you're testing ways of reducing user numbers. This is not a case where we just don't like the changes, it genuinely is taking an age to load. If you'd like sample gpx files for testing just ask and we'll send them in as long as you promise to test off line after rolling back!.

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  • One step forward, three back.

    As a premium user I was excited to see how the new features would unfold... they appear to be incomplete and badly implemented, style over substance.

    I'll just reiterrate oneof the sentiments made before; applying this functionality in its current form to the cycling data would see Strava become an also ran.

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  • Hello,

    Today we released some fixes for the Run Activity Pages. Among the changes are the return of "Hidden Segments" displayed on the Segments page. Also, we are hard at work on the slowness and performance issues, and new code that should greatly improve the situation will be released tomorrow. We're sorry that we could not address the performance issues sooner, and we appreciate your patience! 

    Here are a few more specific responses to your feedback:

    James: When Garmin Laps return to Strava (which will be soon) they will be incorporated into a larger "Workout" view that will hopefully add value and functionality in terms of interval workout analysis and lap analysis. 

    Scawen: You can also click on the edit Run button which is a picture of a pen to the left of the page. You can edit the name of the run there too. When I take a look at some of your runs, I don't see the "99 years ago" that you reference. 

    Patrick: The feature to zoom into a specific portion of the performance chart is returning very soon - as soon as we can make it happen!

     We really appreciate everyone's comments, and we are reading each one! Thanks, -Elle

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