New Run Activity Pages

Please leave us your comments and feedback for the new Run Activity pages here.

Great news, runners: your new run activity page on Strava.com is now live. We spoke to tons of you about what is important when viewing your activities and those of others, and have incorporated your needs and experiences as runners into this new page. 

Some of the new features:

  • Social Bar: We added a social bar to the top of the page, putting your activity title, description, comments, kudos, Instagram photos, and other athletes on your run front and center.
  • Sharing Module:  Easily share your run to Facebook, Twitter, Google+, email, or embed in your blog from the sharing module located at the top, left-hand corner of the page.
  • Key Stats: Distance, time, average pace and elevation are located between the Social Bar and Elevation & Performance Chart. Your mile/km splits from your run are located on the right-hand side of your activity map.
  • Top Results: Get a snapshot of your achievements for the run, including any goals you have accomplished, PRs for best efforts, and segment achievements. 
  • Elevation & Performance Chart: We’ve vastly improved the visual interaction for reviewing and scrubbing all your activity details. Use the cursor to look at your pace, elevation, grade adjusted pace and grade at any point during your run.
  • Premium Analysis: We've rolled out changes to the Pace analysis and distribution, including the new analysis specific to a race. Now you can designate a run activity as a "Race" and get interactive and granular data such as race splits and projected finish times. 
  • Segment Efforts, Stats & Comparison: We’ve optimized the Segment Efforts within your activity so you can quickly scan your most meaningful achievements. We display key stats of your effort along with your leaderboard ranking. And when you’re looking at another athlete’s segment effort, you’ll be able to compare your PR against theirs.

Some of the changes: There are aspects of the run activity pages that are not currently available, with some of these aspects scheduled to return, redesigned, at a later date:

  • Viewing the Performance Chart with 'time' as the x-axis: The new performance chart is set with 'distance' as the x-axis, and we plan to re-add the option to switch to 'time' in the near future (coming soon). 
  • Lap data from a Garmin device: Will now be visible underneath the Segments view in the left sidebar for Free and Premium users.
  • Segment Comparison: The ability to compare your segment effort with your PR and/or the CR for the segment has been removed, and will return after a redesign incorporating the features from http://raceshape.com/.
  • Run "Score": The run intensity score that appeared previously under the Analysis tab is no longer available, but will return when the calculation is more accurate. 
  • GAP for mile splits: We're currently working on our algorithm for GAP. Once the algorithm is improved, GAP split data will be displayed on our new Premium Pace & Race Analysis pages.
  • Best Efforts: The technology available used to generate Best Efforts was not up to our high standard of accuracy. Due to this, we will continue to display any PRs you receive for the next few weeks, but then we will turn off Best Efforts in its current form. Over the next few months, we'll continue to explore innovative and relevant ways to bring this feature back to all users once it has reached our high standards of accuracy. We apologize for this change.

Some Known Issues:

  • FIXED Performance Issues: We're hard at work improving the performance issues that have been reported. Improvements coming soon.
  • FIXED Hidden Segments: Hidden segments will be re-adding this week (we still need to add the ability to hide and unhide segments)
  • FIXED Elevation Correction for your Run: Will be re-added very soon.
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  • Rachael, It's great that someone has (eventually) replied. Can I suggest you now roll back and implement these changes as you suggested. When they are ready and in a progressive way. If not then this is just hot air.
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  • Rachael, Thanks for your post updating everyone where we are. I think the issue of the bugs and performance issues have been largely dealt with and it sounds like lessons learnt. I know how tempting it is to release software based on event deadlines rather than whether its ready but it can easily backfire. My (and I think quite a few others) main issue(s) which are still outstanding relate to the general navigation and site layout and the ease of access to information. The old pages just worked great - yes there were quite a few small/medium  improvements which could be made and they weren't as pretty as the new ones but the essential layout and navigation model worked well with a few main straightforward pages. The new layout from a UI design perspective just feels fundamentally wrong and although the tweaks (graph axes) etc will help I don't think anything less than a page restructuring will restore the simplicity and ease of use of the old pages. It would really help (especially for those of us who have previously been pushing Strava at the unconverted) if the old run pages could be restored as an option (as you've acknowledged you will do in the future) until  you have sorted out the new pages. Users can then vote with their feet in moving to the new pages if they feel they prefer them. Otherwise many (including me) who have paid for a year will continue to feel disgruntled that what they paid for has been significantly negatively changed. 

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  •     Paul Moore 

    I think the argument for removing the best efforts is a bit of a red herring

     

    Agreed with the above complete red herring. If Stravas view is that GPS is potentially to buggy for personal bests then surely it is for everything else? In which case Stravas app is useless?

    Agreed with Simon roll back roll back roll back its what everyone wants!

     

     

     

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  • If you cant/wont roll back the new performance graph one easy way to quickly fix it for now would be to redraw the vertical axis scale and gridlines based on which line the mouse if over. As the lines are deliberately separated vertically this should be easy to hit-test and would at least mean an appropriate scale and horizontal gridlines can be seen with a simple up-down mouse movement. A good developer should be able to add this in a day, 2 at most. Adjustable axes like sporttracks would be better would obviously take longer. Please.

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  • Rachel, it's great that everyone there reads our feedback, however I still don't think you all understand the issue.  The new page is not a good product, it is incredibly inferior than the previous page, I don't need to go through all the details since you read all posts.  It's great you realize the way this update was released not well planned and rushed and that your team has been working very hard at fixing bugs however once again the biggest problem is what your released, an inferior product.  For me the clock is ticking, I'm on a month to month subscription and May 12 is my deadline.  All my activities are in both Garmin Connect and Runkeeper (I also pay for the elite subscription) and as it stands today and since your update Strava is an inferior product compared to these two other products.

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  • Never want to pile on, but the new design just gives me a headache from the simplistic view we have in cycling.  While I can't stand a lot of the chest thumping going on, and threats, but the usability of the run pages has gone down considerably with loss of details.  I hope they come back quickly as you did with the Laps view.  Details like Hear Rate graphed out in Laps or Segments is much appreciated.  Please roll back design.  

    I am a premium user, and while this does tarnish Strava's credibility, I'm still a staunch supporter/customer and hope you make it right.

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  • I've found out how to reproduce the black lines that appear on the graph in Firefox when scrubbing with the mouse, shown in the screen photo by Eric Colton above.

    At first I was puzzled because the bug seemed to come and go.  I've found out it depends on the width of the browser window.  If I'm getting then black lines, then make the window one pixel wider or narrower, the black lines will then not appear when scrubbing.  If I then adjust the window width by a single pixel again, the black lines do appear when scrubbing.

    I guess it is a rounding error due to a slightly different calculation of the X-coordinate in the two cases of (1) drawing the black line and (2) replacing the black line with the graph data when the mouse moves away.

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  • Elle is awesome! She has been very helpful with past issues in my experience!

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  • So in summary:

     

    Sorry - we messed up - now live with it.

     

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    To quote Greg Gretch

    "Cyclists spend an average of $2000 on bikes, gear and accessories a year; runners spend $1,000 annually. It’s the kind of demographic advertisers are willing to kill for", notes Gretsch.

    “We haven’t gone down that path yet because it kills some of the brand trust between us and our audience,” says Gretsch. “But when we hit 10 million [users], it’s a really interesting dollars and cents business"

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    Ultimately Strava is just like any other business - "Community" is only an illusion to push product.....customer feedback is only important if it affects profits. 

    IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT; YOU'RE THE PRODUCT *

     

    * even if you go premium

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  • Do we have a timescale on when we are going to see improvements?

    What is happening stinks of what happened with endomondo when a lot of people paid for Pro and they then moved previous services to a new "premium" subscription.

    I would urge all to start downloading their data now from strava and have it backed up just incase.

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  • This might have been mentioned before, but if I am viewing the map in fullscreen mode, and try to move the map to view a different portion of the route / map, then when I let go off the mouse button, a non-full screen version of the browser pops up on top of the full-screen. Annoying. If you close the non-full-screen version, the full-screen also disappears. Bit of a nuisance.

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  • Now I understand why I can't see my PR's for running anymore.  Not sure what was wrong, but this is worse.  Go back and finish testing in the test environment.

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  • For what it is worth - look into "Net Promoter Score."  This is important for Strava, I would think.  I used to be a net promoter, but no more.  I am now using the feedback from these comments to explore Endomondo as another option to Strava (everything is already safely backed up over on Garmin Connect).  As others have stated, PLEASE DON'T MESS UP THE CYCLING FUNCTIONALITY!

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  • I posted some comments (largely negative) on these changes just after they came out and have been following with great interest the posts since. I work in IT and usually you expect most feedback to be negative because usually happy customers just get on with using the software. That said negative comments are usually not that frequent in the overall scheme of things and often are more related to people's difficulty just getting into the system in the first place.

    This does not appear to be the case here with post after post from both paying and free users largely being disappointed. What has never been stated, to my knowledge, is just who was consulted when Strava supposedly "spoke to tons of you about what is important when viewing your activities". Clearly none of the people on this thread which seem to represent a broad range of users - those who run uphill and on the flat, differing abilities and differing levels of Strava subscriptions.

    Anyway having used the new system for a few weeks now, I still much prefer the old. I use Strava mainly for segments as I like chasing CRs and then having the banter with friends! There are numerous other systems out there where you can just look at your Garmin splits - not least of which is the device itself! But now the segment section seems a bit of an after thought. I used to like the simplicity of a simple grid of segments, distances, times, HR, VAM (yes sometimes I go up something steep enough to count), speed and achievements. OK it was not the most "elegant" page but it worked as a summary, Now everything just seems to involve lots of effort to get around, a miniscule segment map window and an almost useless segment performance graph. Segment comparison is gone too - for a makeover - but why take something away until you have something better. Very odd.

    Best efforts had problems for sure (and I raised some tickets about them) - like doing a 5K starting and finishing at same point, being at least 5K but failing to register. Equally unfiltered bests - I saw a 20 sec 400 recently when the signal went wrong in Central London. Simple filters of what is humanly possible may have at least helped there temporarily. That said they were useful most of the time and l tend to think better to stick with something that works fairly well until come up with something better.

    I don't believe any site does segments like Strava does so I will stick with it (subscription has got some while to run anyway) but am a little concerned that the "consultation" seems to have restricted to the confines of the Strava offices rather than real users as was implied. If you would like users to give feedback prior to future releases am happy to offer to volunteer. I feel I want Strava to be what I originally saw it to be - a unique take on the increasingly crowded space of GPS activity logging sites. The way forward could be good but equally could just put Strava back in the crowd if indeed it  has now gone there and needs to climb back out.

    Anyway all my GPS activities since 2004 are in here (since 2006 "properly" when the Forerunner 305 came out and previously as "workouts" with the 201 but only as "workouts" due to the poor GPS) and I really hope I will want to continue to upload them here.

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  • BUG:  on the run overview page, the splits and merging the mile number and the mile split into one field...ie.... my mile one time is 7:11 and its showing under " splits" as 17:10  When I look under "laps" everything is displayed correctly with all the correct mile splits.  This was not happening yesterday.  Reproduces on Firefox and also mobile browser.   http://app.strava.com/activities/51028524/overview

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  • If I had to guess..the issue seems to be the mile 4 split on overview page showing my 2 sec split as a huge decimal by mistake.... however the laps view handles it fine showing.. 2 seconds.  Can this be fixed pls...so I don't get messages saying my GPS data is bad on this run ;)

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  • When best efforts disappeared from the free version, I upgraded to Premium. That's what I look for in my run data. And Segments. But best efforts wasn't in Premium. 12 months of money down, and it's pretty useless for me! Please bring back the old website. The new Android app is more fiddly too. If accuracy is a problem, the GPS needs to be sampled more often. Windsurfer speed sailors sample @ 2 sec intervals for example?
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  • Can Strava give us an answer as to why things have not been rolled back whilst you work on the bugs?

    The overwhelming consensus is that the new website is absolutely rubbish..... I have uploaded a couple of runs recently to Strava (and mapmyrun as my recent back up) and am currently not evening looking at strava to anaylis my runs...... The only reason I am logging my work outs is in the hope that it will be changed back but day by day is dragging by and still no roll back?

    It makes me think you don't actually care...........

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  • I echo most of the complaints here and have been waiting for things to be righted.  I'm only pointing that out so it is clear that lots of folks may also be unhappy with the change and not bother to comment.

     

    I'm glad laps are available again, but the elevation data is always 0 for me, even when I know that is not the case.  I haven't seen it mentioned if that is a known issue and will be fixed.  Hopefully you will re-process all runs uploaded since the run page was changed to fix this so we all don't have to do it manually.

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  • With the old Strava I used to be excited to get home and upload my GPS data so I could analyse my run. I could easily visualise, analyse and compare my runs against my own previous data as well as other athletes runs on similar segments. I could extract all the info I needed with only a few mouse clicks. On the new Strava that excitement isn't there. I upload now simply because I'm a paying member and feel obliged to get something for my money. Bugs and coding issues aside, I think you guys should be most concerned with this 'lack of excitement' as this is what sets you apart from all the others. Without this you will simply fade away into the masses of sports tracking websites.
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  • It is worrying that whilst Strava have fixed some bugs and reintroduced some pre-existing features they have shown no sign of changing the basic functionality of the new pages, which is flawed.

    I have no doubt that the new 'upgraded' cycling pages are in the pipeline, if the same basic functionality changes of the segments and leaderboards are made, the Strava social networking website as we know it, is dead... Strava will become just another lame sports activity tracking site like all the others, but less usable than most.

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  • Did an off road 10k race today, uploaded the run.  The auto-segment creation system, as always, created a poorly named segment with bad start and end points.  Special thread suggesting that should be switched off : https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/21662230

    Anyway, the new bug is I tried to edit that auto created climb, Strava said thanks, changes have been made, check the leaderboard in 24 hours.  But the changes had not been made - the segment looked exactly the same!  Thinking maybe I didn't click save, I re-did the edit twice, but the segment always went back to how it was.  OK, thought I'd create a segment for the whole course, starting just after my start and ending where the finish line is.  New segment accepted, Strava goes back to my activity.  Click on segments, Strava says "No segments on this activity".  Did the "Drovers 10k" segment again.  Same thing, "No segments...".  Came here to write bug report.  Now, just checked there again before posting.  What?  Now there are 6 segments!  All the old versions from before they were edited, and after they were edited!  So now I've gone and deleted 3 of the 4 climb segments that were all the same and 1 of the whole course segments.  What a mess, took me a really long time.

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  • Vastly inferior new interface, with harder to access information and less of it! I've never seen an "update" involve so many feature removals. Can you re-activate Best Efforts? How inaccurate can these really have been? I can't see why VAM is not relevant to runners as well.

    Rollback would be the best solution all around and would be positively received by everyone - it worked perfectly as it was! 

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  • Just been looking at the "race analysis" on my 10K race today http://app.strava.com/activities/51141046

    The projected time seems largely dependent if going up or down. The course today was undulating so as soon as I went up the projected time fell away and soon as came down again it started to drop. So not sure what value it has, if any? After all, of course I was on for a "good" time if the course continued to drop throughout - which of course it did not. Might be better if was based on GAP rather than actual then you can see whether your uphill miles were pro rata better or worse than your downhill miles.

    Also because I stopped the Garmin a little bit after the line (perhaps 10 secs as I definitely was under 37 mins on the race clock) then the "walk" over the line is included and kind of throws out the stats anyway. 

    One of the things I liked about Strava previously was that a precise stop and start of your stopwatch was not so necessary as you could just pick out the "real" bit in segment and best effort analysis. This would seem to need to stop to be pressed as I exactly cross the line...

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  • Hi I'm pretty new to Strava and just uploaded my activities from Garmin connect in the last few days and have been enjoying the app in blissful ignorance of the recent changes. Having read through the comments above I decided to try changing my most recent activity fro run to walk so that I could see the 'old' site for myself. Wow, what an improvement - loved the lap summary wit gap analysis next to the map and the chart below was great with y-axes for each metric etc. All really intuitive. Must say I'm a bit confused as to why any of this was changed. Hope this is helpful feedback from a Strava noob.
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  • Please, BRING BACK THE OLD ONE this new one is confusing and horrible visualize the data. I don't care about these stupid new cute design. I use strava to compete and to see the data fast. Lots of details that made Strava unique missing. Very bad idea to release this thing if the product wasn't tested before or even close to be ready. Where are pace per distance features, missing ways to go back to the main course, also when it posts on FB isn't good, you need to blend the old one with the new one. MOVING PACE is missing, if you do a trail run or a bike climb you want to see have the profile being posted not the stupid map. Please don't do the same thing with cycling, otherwise I will stop to use Strava. Super confusing. Seriously, it's not good!

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  • Agree with many others that  this "upgrade" is many steps backward.  Must have lap pace at least as a basic function.  Strava was a great product.  I hope it goes back to being great again.

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  • Just wanted to add another voice to the chorus. Functionality, usability and data density have all gone way down with the "update". It seems that many of us would be very satisfied with a downgrade to the old version.

    I'm as excited about improvements as anyone, but in this case the clear answer seems to be to roll back to the old version and test/refine those "improvements" before unleashing them.

    Thanks,

    Kyle

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  • Another disappointed 'Premium' user here. Like others I have stopped recommending strava now.

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  • The new "full-screen" view of the map is terrible - the actual map is barely bigger than it is in non-fullscreen mode, as a huge amount of screen real estate is taken up by the graph and slider buttons, which I don't see a clear way to hide. A lot of space is wasted on grey background. The old version handled this much better, allowing me to look at the map of where I went in a large format, only pulling up the graph if I wanted to.

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