Feedback for Strava's new maps (OpenStreetMap)

See About our Maps for more info.

Strava has recently switched to maps powered by OpenStreetMap, which we understand is a significant change.

Strava is actively working with Mapbox (the open source mapping platform that supplies us with OpenStreetMap) to make sure we offer the best mapping experience for our athletes.

Mapbox gives us the opportunity to create customized maps that fit aesthetically and functionally with Strava. With open source data, errors or missing map assets can be fixed quickly and efficiently, creating the most detailed and robust maps for cycling and running. We believe in the potential and power of maps by OSM and we're focused on giving the Strava community the best experience possible. 

Where did Street View go?

Mapbox does not provide Street View functionality at this time. We realize this functionality was valuable for some athletes; we'll do our best to re-incorporate it when possible.


August 14th, 2015:

We’re 100% committed to making Strava better for our athletes, and we hear you loud and clear regarding this switch from Google Maps to OSM. We didn’t anticipate how strongly some of our athletes would react to the change and apologize that it was a sudden disappointment to some of you. We could have done a better job explaining our reasoning and bracing you for the switch, handling the roll-out, taking more time to work with Mapbox, etc.

 

It may not seem like it now, but we believe deeply that changing to OSM is the best choice we can make for our athletes and our company. There is enormous potential and creative flexibility offered by the new maps and we ask that you stick with us and continue providing feedback as we bring that potential to fruition.

 

Your reports on the quality of the maps, such as missing map data and satellite image quality, can be addressed. We are working closely Mapbox, our OSM map provider, on both satellite imagery and road data and we’re invested in improving your experience. By providing specific examples of satellite and road data, we can act quickly to update the map data.

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We've noted all your comments regarding street view, and understand how important it is to you. The top use for street view seems to center around segments, in viewing segment start and end coordinates as well as viewing the road surface and surroundings. Street view is still available when creating segments, and it may be possible to return street view to other areas of the segment experience. We will have more to share on this soon.

 

Our designers are compiling initial thoughts on how Strava can leverage certain styles, colors and shading to customize the map experience. We are already incorporating the existing feedback we’ve received here. Please continue to send us your feedback on how the look and feel of the maps can be improved.

- The Strava Team

 

August 21st, 2015:

When you visit a segment page, you can now click either endpoint of the segment to be brought to the street view for that location. Or, you can select one of the options from the map view menu (pictured below). 

This addition is not meant to fully resolve your concerns about the switch to Mapbox. We're doing the best we can to respond to your feedback quickly while still maintaining our commitment to elevate your map experience with Mapbox. It's going to take time and we ask that you stick with us, and we'll continue to take your feedback to heart and iterate whenever possible. 

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September 2nd, 2015

We've just updated our maps to support four languages: English, French, German and Spanish. Now, if you're traveling or viewing the map in another country, you'll be able to see map labels and place names in your language. 

How it works: If you have Strava set to one of the above four languages, you will see map labels in that language. For any other language that is not supported at this time, you will see the default map which displays regional language. To change your language preferences, use the menu at the bottom of any Strava page.

This map update also refreshes imagery for the Satellite map in select areas. 

 

October 22nd, 2015

We're excited to announce updated maps in collaboration with Mapbox, featuring an intuitive display of map data and activity-specific styling. Designed especially with runners and cyclists in mind, we focused on a visual experience that would relay the map information we believe most helpful to our athletes: 

  • Offset road labels for better visibility along activities
  • Visually distinct running and cycling paths
  • Highlighted pedestrian areas, outdoor areas, and parks
  • Vivid terrain styling and high-contrast mountain areas
  • Lower map label density for urban areas
  • Major highways and high-traffic roads de-prioritized in grey
  • Added points of interest most relevant to activity on Strava
  • Contour lines and elevation labels on satellite view

This is the first of several map projects we are working on as part of our ongoing goal to make your mapping experience on Strava more accurate, informative and rich. 

 

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  • Eyvind, at first I thought that your comment was strange as I've found OSM better than Google for mountain biking but then I took a look a the segments in your area and there are indeed forest road that are not on the map. I looked at HERE, Google and OSM and neither has these trails on the map. The good thing with OSM is that you can edit them in yourself using the tool on this page http://labs.strava.com/slide/ with the ability to overlay heatmaps helping in creating the trails. 

    Strava still uses Google for the segment explorer so that won't help you and it won't help you if you use a phone app as they use the local map app (Google or Apple) but it will show up on the website's map.

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  • OSM for Strava is much better than Google maps - now you know which side of the fence I'm on!

    Two requests:

    1) I assume that you are using a custom MapBox style for activities on the Strava website. Would it be possible to include farmyard names in your style? I'm not too bothered about the farmyard boundary, just the name. It would be useful for navigation.

    2) Some of the elevation data in my area is out of date, eg. old quarry/mine bings show up in the shading despite them having been flattened years ago. Where does the elevation data come from - it does not seem to be possible to edit it directly on OSM.

    Thanks

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  • Missed out 30miles the map shows me going over mountains inpossabe.

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  • Really Strava!?  This is just a business decision to increase your profits by cutting costs... It's becoming obvious that even over your customers wishes, short term profits take priority...  SAD.

    Remember Strava, more choices become available everyday... your  customers will vote with their wallets, you may not get a second chance once we leave.

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  • back google

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  • @Andrew, please contact us directly to report this issue and pass along the browser you're using. 

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  • it's terrible for MTB when using the iPhone app. The activity detail has absolutely no detail whatsoever. Be better with a paper map and a line drawn in pencil by someone. Nothing is shown except white space in between major roads. When out on the trail using a route, you just have a line which is usually fine, but often the trail splits and there is nothing on the map to check. Have to use another app, ViewRanger or BikeMap which has actually detailed maps. When viewing other people's rides in iOS, the map is simply useless, again just a blue line around some white space. Very disappointed google maps was dropped.

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  • good bye strava ... your map sucked very much ...tembelek king kong

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  • Honestly disappointed after switching to iPhone, knowing that the map is useless when you're not riding in the city, heck it won't even display to where I live. And yes, I'm back to asking the locals to where this road even go. 

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  • Just recently I have been enjoying the open street maps more and more as things that should be green (trees/grass) ARE green!  Makes navigation so much easier!

    On G maps things that should be green are often yellow or white (e.g., Lyme Park, Wythenshaw Park, etc).

    Also, I've had no other issues with the OSV maps, so all good!

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  • can you please update the map like the one on google map in the philippine in cebu Argao..so we can make route..if possible the the route in the map..or the whole cebu..thank you..  

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  • I would like to use Google maps in Routes. OSM maps are poor, they don't seem to know about UK cycle routes. Please bring Google Maps back!

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  • My problem, which may not be related to the change in map system, is that my recorded run map looks fine when I'm running anywhere else, but when I'm running in Inverness - once or twice a fortnight - my map is really weird, covered in numbers which are not related to road numbers. I've been in touch with the help desk who referred me to this page. Any suggestions?

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  • Jean, I'd say the help desk wasn't very helpful because this thread won't help your problem. The numbers you talk about only seem to appear in the dashboard feed's map thumbnails but not are not there on the full map. Definitely a bug in their map thumbnail rendering IMHO and localized to your particular run. Quite weird.

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  • Why can't we view ANY Mountain Bike trails on the Mobile Strava App, but u can view them on the Desktop Strava?? Can't we just load the same maps on Mobile Strava as the Desktop Strava?

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  • I would suggest filtering the path data from OSM for trails that have designated access only. there are trails appearing on strava that have the access=no setting in OSM and this can lead to users attempting routes that may not be possible or may be against land managers policies.

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  • Personally I’m doing the planning for my trail running in GAIA GPS which is in fact using OSM (in many varieties) - I find the open cycle maps work best for the trails here in Brisbane/Australia.

    I wish Strava on my iPhone was also using OSM, rather than Apple maps.

    Just my thoughts here...

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  • When I finish an activity Strava uses a picture of the park, with trails, roads etc mapped out. It highlights the route I rode/hiked in red. Awesome! However if I open up my activity to look at it in more detail, or if I am using the gps while actually hiking/riding, the map merely shows whatever park I'm in as a green patch. No trails or roads marked on the map. Is there a reason for this? Is it possible to use the more detailed map by default?

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  • I am a kayaker that uses the app to track my kayaking. Unfortunately I can not change the headers in my profile to track and set goals for kayaking. Can you please make changes to the app to allow users to change the headers in the profile to match their primary activity. In settings, the user only gets two options, running or cycling to choose from as the primary activity.

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  • I see the activity thumbnail map started using a more up to date map in the past few days.  Now use that map for the activities instead the current nearly 2 year out of date one.

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  • Q: How come Strava always starts my map in Blanca, Colorado, when I have clearly listed my home start point in Black Forest, Colorado.  Blanca is about 200 miles away and I have never been there.  I suspect that there is an improper Geo Setting for where Black Forest, Colorado is located.  Black Forest can be found on Google Maps as about 20 miles NNE of Colorado Springs.
    PLEASE fix that.

     

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  • Try ridewithgps.com or komoot.com

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  • Strava's route builder has fallen way behind other apps, eg. Komoot - generates turn-by-turn directions on wahoo (strava doesn't), has knowledge of what kind of road surface the route covers (strava doesn't).

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  • The embarrassing part is that the data that composes the map is free from OSM—someone just has to generate a new set of tiles. There are probably some complications, the tiles are served from Mapbox, maybe they generate them too, each of those things probably make an update cost money. Plus maybe Strava has to process and incorporate some data on its end, IDK.

    Still, a more compelling update for old and new users alike than, say, posts.

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  • I'm guessing it's all related to legal issues.

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  • Strava gets its browser based maps from Mapbox. Mapbox used to update its maps from OSM every 24 hours - I know because that's how long I had to wait to see my OSM changes on the Strava maps. I loved it!

    About 2 years ago they stopped updating so fast because of map vandalism. To understand the implications, read this blog https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2018/08/30/osm-condemns-vandalism/. The problem for a large company is that when this happens it reflects on them; it doesn't matter that they are using someone else's map in the world of public opinion. As often happens, a few bad actors ruin things for the many.

    I remember talking to someone from Mapbox at their Locate conference in May 2018. They said they were going to put in a process to validate the changes. I don't know whether this has happened. 

    What I do see is that AllTrails, which also uses Mapbox maps, has a newer version of maps than Strava. I base this on an old OSM edit of mine showing up in AllTrails but not in Strava. What's interesting about AllTrails is that while it shows the new trail I added, they also show the old trail I deleted.

    Now at the start I said said this is for BROWSER based maps. On iOS they Strava uses Apple maps and Apple maps as far as trails are concerned are useless. I don't think some of the people commenting here realize there is a difference. 

    I sense that Strava has lost some of its early mojo. UI changes to the app the mean more clicks to do operations than before, more "stuff" added that clutters the screen. Seems to be a common problem with maturing companies.

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  • I'm enjoying editing and improving OpenStreetMap for my local area, and the edits appear rapidly on strava and other apps/facilities that I use, but although the routing on OSM instantly uses the new data non-of the edits (even when flagged) have been incorporated into strava routing. Is there a schedule of this?

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  • Google Maps is bad but I'm more disappointed that Strava hasn't brought back Arrested Development tbh

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