Routes

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  • Three Suggestions for Improving Routes

    1. It would be nice if when you loaded a route while cycling, it would give information on how many miles/kilometers remaining and also provide the elevation data.
    2. PLEASE allow a preference to turn off the segment feature when a screen pops up and automatically hides the map when you are on a segment. I don't use segments, I just want to see the map, so this is really awful and annoying.
    3. The heat map is nice, but it would be great to be able to view all your rides together on a map, or rides within a certain date range.

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  • Feature desired:

    Ability to provide water source reporting for backcountry trails. Include coordinates, date, water flow levels, water quality.

    Ability to view water sources in route planning.

    Will allow me to:

    Plan routes based on historical water conditions and recent water conditions. These water reports are extremely valuable for staying safe on long distance trail runs and hikes.

    An example:

    I traversed a large section of Saguaro East National forest with the intent to fill up at a water source 15 miles in. The water source was dry and left me for an uncomfortable trip out of the forest to a backup water source.

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  • Dave Hudson Thanks for your feedback!

    To enable/disable Live Segments navigate to the record screen and tap the settings icon. You can toggle Live Segments ON or OFF. Feel free to learn more about our Live Segments in our support article found here.

    You have access to your personal heatmaps to visualize the ground you've covered around the world. Heatmaps can include cycling or running activities for the current year, previous year, all-time, or custom date ranges. You can also use your personal heatmaps as a layer on our Route Builder for web in addition to global heatmaps to explore new routes in your area.


    You can learn more about Personal Heatmaps in our support article found here

    If you run into any issues with these features, please send our support team a message so we may take a closer look.

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  • Sven, thank you for the response. This is very helpful. How about the first item on the list? Is there a way to load a route when cycling and be able to see the kilometers remaining and the elevation profile?

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  • Joe LaPenna We've just updated the way we process OSM tags for bike access to override cases such as that one (a freeway feeder onto a bridge). You should now be able to properly route across the Antioch Bridge now. Thanks for identifying that case!

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  • Is it correct that only the last year or so of data is synced into the personal heatmaps feature of the route builder?

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  • Is there no way to navigate to the starting point using whatever phone navigation's available?

    It seems it should be quite easy to get the starting point location and open it for car navigation?

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  • Feature request: Better connect trails and rural roads. There are many instances were it is very hard to route between trails and roads. The route builder will take you on some convoluted path adding a lot of miles. 

    Here is one example:

    Image 1: Staying on the backpacking trail crosses the road no problem.

    Image 2: Staying on dirt road crosses backpacking trail no problem: 

    Image 3: Trying to route from the road to backpacking trail causes significant reroute.

    Image 4: Another bizarre example. Routing from the road to the lesser used north trail produces a route that goes 12 miles south and then crosses the intersection no problem??? 

    I have encountered 30+ examples of this all over the midwest. The problem is probably that the road map data and the trail map data were imported into OSM separately requiring users to go through and make all the connections. Unfortunately, this doesn't happen because the maps look perfectly accurate when viewing on OSM. 

     

    Is it possible for Strava to incorporate user GPX data to better handle route intersections? It's very frustrating when you can't connect two very popular paths (based on heatmaps) for seemingly no reason. 

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  • Tijl T. your entire athletic history of public activities should show on the Personal Heatmap layer on the Web Routebuilder. If this not the case, please submit a support ticket!

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  • Ryan Howarth thank you for the detailed examples. I think you are correct that the OSM ways from which we have derived those trails are not all connected, and you are only able to make routing transitions between the connected ones.

    There are certain aspects of routing for which we do augment the OSM-derived map with our own data; however, overriding the transitions between OSM ways that are not explicitly connected is not currently one of them. We have discussed approaches for more closely tying routing to the visual heatmap layer in order to handle cases like this (as well as a similar one in which the way geometry in OSM is wrong or out-of-date, and the heatmap shows the actual route that athletes are taking). It is a challenging problem that we don't anticipate having a quick solution to, but will definitely surface to athletes when we do address it.

    Until then, I would recommend either:

    • making the OSM updates by following the instructions here if you would like to be able to route between those trails
    • drawing a short manual edge to bridge the two trails and then you should be able to continue with the rest of the Route
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  • I can only find segments near my place? It would be usefull If I could find other users routes (if set to public) because they know the area. This same feature was in Endomundo. The explore route option could add all user routes instead of only 3 suggested generated routes

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  • Feature request: exclude or grey out route section where activity was paused

    Sometimes we start a ride (can apply to other activities too) and continue to point A, have the ride paused, jump on a train to point B and continue the ride from there. Sometimes we might have more than 1 train ride during the workout. However currently Strava algorithm connects all the GPS point even when the ride was on pause between point A and B. Show below in that super straight line. 

    That straight line is a train ride in which recording was paused. I recorded my ride using a head unit (Wahoo in this case) and the route is shows correctly in the head unit's app as shown below. And is then exported to Strava.

    The exact same has happened to my friend. Even though he uses Strava itself to record the ride on his mobile phone. So the same algorithm applies regardless of the source.

    It would be great and useful if Strava can either grey out the section that was not recorded (no data collected between points A and B), or exclude from the map similar to the output shown in the head unit route. Having that section shown in the route map causes confusion for follower to see the actual  distance traveled in a given ride.

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  • Labels for routes to be able to filter efficiently.

    When opening the routes page I would like to be able to create labels to sort the routes. I want to be able to create labels for MTB, Gravel and Road for instance, but also for areas where I go biking. The next obvious step would be to filter the routes by label so that I don't have to sort throught tens of routes to find the right one.
    This is different from the idea (posted in other posts) to have folder because then a route can be in one folder at a time, with labels you can several. So I would add 'mtb', 'north of holland', 'hard', 'downhill'. Another route could be 'Road', 'north of holland', 'hard'. So both in North of Holland but different roads.

    Basically adding to the post of TR Ruben Vico

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  • TR Ruben Vico, Rob Lake, Tim Siu, Mike Robinson, Chris Golden, Florent Caelen (and others)

    I totally agree with being able to see all your routes on a single map or be able to search them.  It's very tedious right now if you have pages of different routes.

    You should check out https://www.findthatride.com -- This tool allows you to see all your previous activities and routes on a live map and filter everything together.  Makes finding a specific activity or route much easier.

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  • Feature request: Coloring routes according to speed (or more)

    It would be really useful to provide colored routes in the activity display/analysis, as done in many other training apps (Apple Training, Adidas Running, WorkOutDoors, ...) – i.e., color-code the route according to local speed.

    In an advanced version make the color-coding user selectable for speed, cadence, heart rate, etc.

     

    EDIT (following answer by Varun 🥐 P.): Thanks! At least something;-) But this only works in the tiny previews in the dashboard/activity channel and is already not displayed if I go into the activity ... 

    Ands having to add the same hashtag to every activity is also cumbersome – unless there is is a bulk-editing option;-)

    Would be really useful to get a general setting (subscriber only is fine with me;-)

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  • yoku ha - subscribers are currently able to customize the coloring of their activity maps (at least those shown in the main feed and on the activity screen) by using hashtags! For more information see https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/360049869011-Custom-Activity-Lines-statmaps.

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  • Turn-by-Turn Audio Navigation

    Not to take anything away from any of these great ideas for improving Routes, but unless we can get Turn-by-Turn Audio Navigation, then Routes is almost useless to anyone using the Strava App rather than a dedicated (and capable) GPS unit (Garmin, Wahoo, etc.). For more detail on my request, please see my OP above. I'm currently creating routes in Strava and exporting to RideWithGPS for this functionality (and paying them $6/mo for it). Komoot does the same. Sooner or later I'm going to decide I need this feature too much to wait for Strava to implement it.

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  • It would be helpful if I could take a recent ride and modify it slight to create a new, downloadable Route. Currently, adding a waypoint causes the Route to assume that the new waypoint is the Finish point with no apparent way to modify it. In addition, I cannot drag an existing waypoint to a new location without the software thinking the Route will include an Out-Back as opposed to including an additional loop of roads. Perhaps I am overlooking something, but the available controls do not seem to support either as a simple option.

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  • Enable other activites in "My Stats"

    First of all, Strava, thank you very much for the recent update and improvement for everything that has to do with snow related sports. I find a lot of joy in going through my ski activites on Strava. (Note: When I refer to "ski" or "skiing" I am referring to Cross country/Skate/Nordic ski.)

    Although I love everything you have to offer, I really miss the ability to see my ski activity in the "My Stats"-widget. Over the last 4 days I have been skiing 80km, but I look like the biggest slob on "My Stats", seeing as this only shows swimming, cycling and running. I am fairly certain I am not alone in this, seeing as skiing is a very popular sport in Norway (and the Nordic countries too). Strava would highly likely be a lot more fun for Norwegians and Scandinavians during the winter months if we could compare our stats with what we actually spend our time doing.

    To give my plea some statistical support, I here present some exercise statistics from Norway in 2019, showing the percentage of how many times people above age 16 have conducted a certain activity over the last 12 months:

      0 times 1-2 times 3-10 times 11-24 times 25+ times
    Jogging 61 2 9 6 22
    Nordic ski 63 5 16 9 8
    Swimming 78 2 8 5 7
    Cycling 64 2 9 5 18

    Source: https://www.ssb.no/kultur-og-fritid/statistikker/fritid (translated to English by me)

    As you can see from the table, skiing is by far the most popular activity in Norway. This is especially true this year, as the Corona lockdowns have driven people to the ski tracks in the woods. As a matter of fact, so many people in Oslo took public transport to get to the woods to go skiing, that the Municipality of Oslo now has started bringing snow into the parks in the city... (see photo below):

    Source: https://www.aftenposten.no/oslo/i/nAvr4x/naa-kjoerer-oslo-kommune-snoe-til-byens-parker

    If corona stops us from getting to the ski tracks, we bring the ski tracks to us! :)

    So, dear Strava, you could not go wrong in enabling "Nordic ski" as a "My Stats" activity in the Scandinavian region. It cannot come a minute too soon!

    Best Regards,

    Amalie

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  • Request - I think it’s very important to be able to avoid certain types of road. Eg - Bypass, A roads (which here in the uk can be very busy and dangerous)
    Thanks

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  • Reposting, in the hopes that the Strava team are reading this thread...

    I want the ability within the route creator to toggle on segments I have starred/favorited...just those segments, not a segment search that pulls the 10 most popular segments on the visible map portion.

    It will allow me to build routes that incorporate the segments I have starred. This is important when building routes that exist just to do specific climbs or sections of trails/roads.

    An example of when this would be helpful is when building routes for club challenges.  For example, I live in Flanders (Belgium), and a well known .cc website in Belgium sponsors something called the Flandrien Challenge. It requires the rider to ride through a series of segments that naturally are cobbled climbs and road sections. The official scoring (not for time, just completion) is done through Strava.  To build my routes, I had to figure out where each one was manually, then build the routes, it was tedious and required extensive route editing to ensure I captured as many of the segments as I could in each route. Giving us the option to toggle on ONLY our starred segments would speed this process, and would allow for building safer routes also...sometimes, it is safer to ride in a particular direction due to surface, traffic, grade, etc.  Thanks!

    -Andy

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  • It would be helpful if we could divide the routes into folders. I create routes for certain events or specific occasions. Now I have to search in all my routes to find a specific one.

    I would like to create some order in the chaos all my routes are now.

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  • This is feedback related to Heatmaps. (This is the closest post I could find to post this feedback in, since there is no post for Heatmaps)

    Please make the Heatmaps UI more mobile friendly (or even better, embed it into the mobile app!). Right now the sidebar and header takes up 2/3 of the screen real estate which makes it unusable on mobile, especially compared to the previous version of heatmaps (see example below).

    Secondly, it would be great if there were a way to share a heatmap with others. In the previous version of heatmaps, I could generate a heat map and the resulting URL would work for anyone I shared it with. I have other friends with similar "Run Every Road" hobbies, and we like to share heatmaps with one another to encourage each other.

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  • Using Strava route editor on trails is a somewhat frustrating experience:

    1) Some trails that appear on the map are not routable despite having a lot of popularity data.

    2) If I attempt to use a manual mode to work around the trails that are not routable, that easily get overridden by the editor later, when it attempts to snap the manually edited segments to the nearby trails or roads, causing the route to be completely broken up.

    3) The elevation data for routes is often of very poor quality, with sudden changes in the elevation or the elevation being stuck at the same value for long distances, or sudden spikes. That is made much worse by the fact that when the route is synced to Garmin, Garmin seems to just blindly trust the elevation and sync the route as is to the watch, and then that causes massive issues during a run, making features like ClimbPro completely useless.

    Here is an example of a route where I used the manual mode in two places and both got broken when I saved the route: https://www.strava.com/routes/2793368135309221352

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  • Hi,

    I'm another person adding my voice to route filtering. Being able to sort routes we have made or favourited would seriously improve the Strava experience (and I speak on behalf of a lot of my friends who use the app when I say this). Folders would be absolutely brilliant or, at the very least, the ability to sort by things like length, metres of elevation or see location of them on a map. 

    Keep up the good work!

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  • Please add the ability to 'explore routes' on web. It is difficult to explore routes on Strava mobile because of hardware constraints, not sure why this isn't included on the web.

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  • Folders to Organise Routes
    My request is to have folders to organise routes. It will allow users to categorise routes by region,  length, activity type, long runs, hill runs, training runs or runs for a specific event etc.

    I have a very high number of saved and created routes and it is very difficult to navigate.

    For example, I have routes saved for when I am at my home town, and also when I'm away at my Uni town. Then as well, I have routes solely for day-trips away, or also for training sessions and commutes. I find they are all getting very mixed up and I struggle to find the routes I am looking for.

    Folders would be an ideal solution for this issue and would allow users to find their own routes more easily according to categories they defined themselves.

    I'm thinking that creating and editing folders could be features available on desktop only, but browsing would be available on mobile as well. 

    This would be a massive benefit to Route Building!

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  • Took the ride from a mate, made a route of it, you can see in the picture that it rearranged itself. The dark blue lines is where the route shuld be, the segment is no problem, that dont rearrange itself.

    So, how can I get past this bug or whatever it is? We are trying to arrange club-rides corona-style, but no one is going to get around a track/route if it breaks up or rearrange itself to I-dont-know-what.......

     

    I hope you dont mind my basic skills in english.....not my main language..

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  • Feature Creation:

    If you were to add a tire dimension to the bikes that we ride, it would make route selection easier. Using Python you can science that data, the wheel width, to find out what tires are best for what trails. This way as a cyclist who rides road, gravel, and MTB, or any mix of that, you can choose your routes accordingly. This data can be backwards functional by adding this data to the bike, applying it to all the old rides, and then bringing it forward to describe the new trails. From that point, you can also tell which of my bikes is on, rather than having to select it every time. 

    You can also use this to show the difference between downhill MTB and XC or Enduro. Which allows you to tune the fitness metrics more accurately. 

    You can also use this data to look for aberrations of routes for construction and the like. Things like construction that shows up, and how people get around that. The route suggestions can auto update using this sort of data science and machine learning. The MTB DH vs XC/Enduro will also help with the backcountry ski/snowboard vs lift access ski and snowboard. We want to know how long it takes to ascend, and unless you make a segment you can't do that. It's just a change of how you use the data.

    On road bikes or other long rides, you can also find common stopping places with the data provided. These tend to be feeding stations, which are necessary when you're out for over three or four hours. You could also call common start and finish points for certain routes from this data as well. 

    All of this will make the overall experience better for all cyclists, as well as backcountry ski/snowboarders. Especially if you made some of it a paid feature. The best part of it is when you travel to new places, your route finding gets a lot better. Much less stressful and no more hoping you're choosing the right kinds of routes for the bike you brought with you. 

    I'd love to code this. If you gave me access to my own data, I could build POC with it. Especially if my girlfriend could get access to hers, since she has ridden a lot more strava miles than I have, on a greater number of bikes and in more locations. 

    This could be a huge paid feature and earn a lot of subscriptions for the company. And if you let me do it for a stipend, it doesn't move people on your dev team to a new project. They would just have to implement it system wide.

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  • I'm regularly getting routes detail showing in imperial even though my settings are metric.  Hard to use when I can't understand the distances or elevations.

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