Fitness and Freshness graph for Run activities

I, as most use Strava for running and cycling.  I don't know the actual calculation, but the tool Training Peaks allows you to map your TSS, IF and training stress balance for running.  This would be a great feature to add in to help with training for events.



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  • @Karl, of course. And using optical HR isn't very accurate either.
    But that's still not an excuse for introducing yet another spiffy feature that depends on HRmax without fixing this obvious shortcoming first.

  • @Steven, take a look at section 4. 

  • Is the point of strava not primarily to be a social network encouraging exercise in whatever fashion. I'm delighted to see F+F incorporate multi sport suffer scores, so now my occasional run when I can't ride is recognised and stops my fitness number plummeting. As everyone else I would be be very happy to see sport specific zones, and a way to have periodic updates in power / hr zones not affect all historical data. It is worth remembering though that the F+F chart and other analysis features are included in the fairly modest fee of premium membership. If more accurate data is required there are specific programmes designed to provide this data, at a greater cost ie training peaks, and the social aspects of strava can be had for free. We can't necessarily have all the top end features for bottom end price. Strava is $7.99 pcm, training peaks $19.95 pcm, presumably for a reason.

  • @Peter, don't forget Sport Tracks and Garmin Connect, which also has this. Probably others too.

    There is no point in having HR Zones at all if they aren't sport specific, or you just do one sport.

  • @Calle, thanks for the link. That's really interesting, and makes perfect sense, can see it would vary depending on muscles usage, so good to know.

  • Suddenly my fitness and freshness graph is at zeroes across the board...Why would that happen? Was working perfectly fine until last week - I'm a premium member...

  • I've got the same issue with zeros across the entire time horizon.

  • Any progress on this? How about allowing all activities that include heart rate affect fitness/freshness graph. I'm about to take a break from cycling and will pick up the nordic skis for the winter. Would be great if those skis would count to the graph, otherwise it's useless...

  • Hello everyone,

    No new updates to report for this feature request. 

    We are aware of the feedback you have communicated in support of the Fitness and Freshness feature for runners. It is something we have considered in the past, but have decided not to do. We may change our mind in the future, but for now this is not a planned project. 

    We still appreciate your feedback, as it will help inform our decisions going forward. 

  • Hi Ellie,


    Have found the updated F and F graph - looks good, especially marking races, I'm always looking for how my scores have changed between races, so this is a great feature.

    Having said that, I noticed that if the race is on the same day as other events it doesn't display. I usually split my rides into commutes to and from the race, with a separate entry for the race.

    I've attached a screenshot with an arrow pointing to an example.

    Cheers, Justin.

  • Hello - 

    We've held off on adding this feature for our run/triathlete members because there isn't enough compelling research that measuring fitness/fatigue using heart rate data and running pace is effective or accurate. We're not saying 'never', just providing some context to help you understand why we haven't added this feature yet. 


  • This sounds appealing!

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