New Run Activity Pages

Please leave us your comments and feedback for the new Run Activity pages here.

Great news, runners: your new run activity page on Strava.com is now live. We spoke to tons of you about what is important when viewing your activities and those of others, and have incorporated your needs and experiences as runners into this new page. 

Some of the new features:

  • Social Bar: We added a social bar to the top of the page, putting your activity title, description, comments, kudos, Instagram photos, and other athletes on your run front and center.
  • Sharing Module:  Easily share your run to Facebook, Twitter, Google+, email, or embed in your blog from the sharing module located at the top, left-hand corner of the page.
  • Key Stats: Distance, time, average pace and elevation are located between the Social Bar and Elevation & Performance Chart. Your mile/km splits from your run are located on the right-hand side of your activity map.
  • Top Results: Get a snapshot of your achievements for the run, including any goals you have accomplished, PRs for best efforts, and segment achievements. 
  • Elevation & Performance Chart: We’ve vastly improved the visual interaction for reviewing and scrubbing all your activity details. Use the cursor to look at your pace, elevation, grade adjusted pace and grade at any point during your run.
  • Premium Analysis: We've rolled out changes to the Pace analysis and distribution, including the new analysis specific to a race. Now you can designate a run activity as a "Race" and get interactive and granular data such as race splits and projected finish times. 
  • Segment Efforts, Stats & Comparison: We’ve optimized the Segment Efforts within your activity so you can quickly scan your most meaningful achievements. We display key stats of your effort along with your leaderboard ranking. And when you’re looking at another athlete’s segment effort, you’ll be able to compare your PR against theirs.

Some of the changes: There are aspects of the run activity pages that are not currently available, with some of these aspects scheduled to return, redesigned, at a later date:

  • Viewing the Performance Chart with 'time' as the x-axis: The new performance chart is set with 'distance' as the x-axis, and we plan to re-add the option to switch to 'time' in the near future (coming soon). 
  • Lap data from a Garmin device: Will now be visible underneath the Segments view in the left sidebar for Free and Premium users.
  • Segment Comparison: The ability to compare your segment effort with your PR and/or the CR for the segment has been removed, and will return after a redesign incorporating the features from http://raceshape.com/.
  • Run "Score": The run intensity score that appeared previously under the Analysis tab is no longer available, but will return when the calculation is more accurate. 
  • GAP for mile splits: We're currently working on our algorithm for GAP. Once the algorithm is improved, GAP split data will be displayed on our new Premium Pace & Race Analysis pages.
  • Best Efforts: The technology available used to generate Best Efforts was not up to our high standard of accuracy. Due to this, we will continue to display any PRs you receive for the next few weeks, but then we will turn off Best Efforts in its current form. Over the next few months, we'll continue to explore innovative and relevant ways to bring this feature back to all users once it has reached our high standards of accuracy. We apologize for this change.

Some Known Issues:

  • FIXED Performance Issues: We're hard at work improving the performance issues that have been reported. Improvements coming soon.
  • FIXED Hidden Segments: Hidden segments will be re-adding this week (we still need to add the ability to hide and unhide segments)
  • FIXED Elevation Correction for your Run: Will be re-added very soon.
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  • What's going on? Really?

     

    ps - Raptors!!!!!!

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  • I've been thinking for some time, something must really be wrong because this doesn't make any sense.  There must be a reason why they can't roll back, or implement the couple of new features into the old version (I'm another software developer).  My theory is not as funny as Dances W's dino egg theory but does remind me of it... it seems like there is a missing programmer - the clever one(s) that did the old pages.  Maybe the programmer(s) who left had some real design flair themselves (but this is pure speculation).  It's clear that the design and implementation of the new pages is much worse and less usable, so it can't have been done by the same people, and probably not a cyclist / runner type.  I suspect that the new ones are finding it hard to read the source code left by the departed programmer, so can't add to it, and had to write a new interface.  The talented programmer(s) who left might not have commented the code enough, or Strava just hasn't been able to find a replacement who is as good.

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  • Well, for such a big change a back up was supposed to be done before, right? How these changes were even approved? It is the biggest screwed up I've ever seen in an application, everything is showing wrong. Not even the QOM or CR posted anymore on FB when you share your activities. Who created this interface for sure is not an endurance athlete or play  Strava, otherwise would have seen right away that we don't care about this data that was chosen as the one to be shown now. The old one was perfect! NO BS just plain data, competition. PLEASE bring the old one back, make some effort and restore the backup. I have my friends here, my data from years, I don't want to have to use another application and leave everything behind. That pace chart on the right side of the super wide map sucks! :-(

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  • So the response to a support request on the new design comes back with a "hang in there".  That rates in the customer service world as only slightly above "shut the F--- up and wait."  They're defending a redefinition of speed in their graph and just saying they'll fix the broken parts.  No recognition that beyond fixing features, the new design is regressive, that it's more difficult to use and gives you less information.

    Honestly, I can't fathom why anyone would give them a dime at this point.  It's gone from a nice tool to an amateur display, "supported" by amateur communication.  Is this really a business plan?  Do the investors know about this?  I've been at companies where there was wholesale housecleaning for stuff like this, largely because the trainwreck was not addressed after it was realized.  I get the nagging suspicion that no one is up to the task of just admitting the magnitude of the design problems OR the user relationship problem. 

    The only sensible thing would be to roll back.  Elle, you seem silent on that one.  Not allowed to address that one?  Someone upstairs have too much pride in the worthless new page?

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  • I am running a marathon in October (my 3rd) with a friend (his 1st).  I'm training in PA and he's training in CA.  Shortly after we registered we talked on the phone.

    Me: do you use anything to track your runs?

    Him: No

    When I got in front of my computer I invited him to use Strava and he is, I'm glad he didn't pay for Premium.

    Today I ran with a friend who is not a runner but we are both doing a Spartan Race together this summer and he wanted to go for a few runs before the race.  During our run we had the following conversation.

    Me: Have you heard about Runkeeper?

    Him: No

    When I got in front of my computer I invited him to use Runkeeper by tagging him to our run.

    My Premium membership expires in 6 days... I have very little confidence I'll be renewing it.

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  • BUG:  Once again, but new activity, on the run overview page, the splits are merging the mile number and the mile split into one field...ie.... my mile one time is 6:30 and its showing under " splits" as 16:30 When I look under "laps" everything is displayed correctly with all the correct mile splits.    http://app.strava.com/activities/52786411    Also, correcting elevation still wipes out elevation numbers under the laps tab, Come on strava,,ur killing me.  I have been a die hard fan but you are killing the running interface and its not fun anymore here.  Garmin connect is just as good.  Make it right...roll back pls or at least fix the bugs. Please:).

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  • Another thing I really miss about the new layout is the graphical layout of the pace per mile, for each mile (the graph with horizontal green bars). It was a great way to sea very quickly if I negative or positive split a race and to show what the general trend is for pace increasing or decreasing in training runs. The iPhone app still has this graphical layout, and I find myself looking at it after uploading my run to Strava on my computer. It's very disappointing that a 2"x3" screen gives me a better overview of my data than my 22" computer monitor.

    I agree with the rest of the posters that a roll back to the original layout (to be the same as the excellent cycling layout) is indeed "what runners want".

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  • I only started using Strava a week or so ago (having decided to look for an alternative to Runtastic) - so I never used the original run pages,

    But interestingly, I emailed support a couple of days ago to ask why the running pages were different to the cycling pages (I mainly run) and commented that I much prefer the cycling pages - when I emailed I was totally unaware there was such a storm brewing on this thread and that the running pages had just been "upgraded".

    I had a nice response from Strava which explained that the new activity pages were updated for runners first and that there a lots of improvements on the way.

    Hope so - having uploaded a short cycle ride to see what it's like - I much prefer the cycling layout!

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  • Hi Andrew,

    I am glad someone got a reply from Strava we have been seeking a response here for a long time now but they appear to have buried their heads in the sand. Just about everyone has asked that we roll back to the old site but the request has been avoided and ignored.

    Ironically I have uploaded all my runs from Strava and have moved them to Runstatic/Endomondo and map my run as trying to assess your runs on Strava is pointless and not fun anymore. As you can see from the cycling pages they are far superior now they have downgraded the runners to a pig of a site.

    The best alternative at the moment is mapmyrun I would try there before you get to comfy here because nothing appears to be changing anytime soon!

     

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  • Thanks Matt - I'll have a look at those others.  There were a few reasons why I wanted to move from Runtastic and must say - despite what everyone has said  - am fairly impressed with Strava so far - the look and feel is excellent and I really like the segments and how you can suddenly find that you have ran a segment which other people have and compare your time, without having to set it up in advance.  Makes it fun!

     

    Just hope they fix the run pages soon.  (I emailed support yesterday again, as my HR Zones weren't showing up at all - despite the HR graphic being correct.

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  • I too am still waiting for a roll back. And confirmation that this downgrade is not going ANYWHERE near the cycling pages.

    "We spoke to tons of you about what is important when viewing your activities and those of others, and have incorporated your needs and experiences as runners into this new page"

    Does anyone know anyone who was actually consulted on this?

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  • I personally still think Strava is still very good but mainly for the ability to compare segments with loads of other users. My grumble is that the run pages are a pain to use now compared to before but I still like the way Strava works with segments - just not the amount of clicking required and missing data compared with the old version. I'm doing more cycling now and using the cycling pages is a joy after having used the run pages for a few weeks. I do most of my analysis in Sporttracks which is much more sophisticated for analysing your own data but I still like to use strava for sharing with friends and segment rankings. I think the problem is that strava have a business need to add many more analysis features to get more people to pay - in effect including sportracks type features within strava. I don't have a problem with this and would support it but producing a new version with less features isn't a good start at getting loads more people to pay - in fact your annoying the early adopters and power users who are often product evangelists Sporttracks is really slick and cheaper than strava so they have quite a high hurdle to reach to start (quite legitimately and correctly) cashing in from this respect. Its just frustrating when your happy at spending money on something which then gets messed up. 

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  • Also why strava has stopped posting on here I don't know as it just winds up a lot of power users who post on here. Maybe they are having a huge strategic rethink and loads of good stuff will emerge from it in due course or maybe they are keeping their heads down hoping everyone will go away and stop moaning. 

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  • I know there is a lot of negativity on this thread - and I am a new user, but I have just been looking at Map My Run (having moved to Strava a week ago from Runtastic) and I do prefer the look and feel of Strava.  I may stick it out until they fix the run pages.

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  • I think an update from Strava is long overdue!  Last comment was approx 2 weeks ago.  Would be keen to know what progress has been made.

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  • Perhaps we're all chatting away giving our constructive feedback on a server which has been decommissioned in the "upgrade". Maybe they've just sacked it all off and have gone out running (without GPS and other gadgetry)?

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  • For a fleeting moment there I thought Strava Customer Support was going to redeem themselves.

    Initially, before Strava realised the enormity of their mistake Ellie provided basic feedback which was promising. Then as more and more comments started rolling through I think Strava realised this was bigger than just a few disgruntled runners. At this point it seems they silenced Ellie while behind closed doors they constructed their PR strategy/

    Then Rachael responded with the most promising update to date. It was at this point that we all thought Strava had seen the light and was working toward keeping us updated, and taking all our comments on board. With most of us wanting a complete 'roll back', there was hope that this would actually happen.

    Then Rachael fell silent. The comments kept rolling through but again Strava remained silent. All hope of Strava redeeming themselves had faded away and any chance of a 'roll back' had been lost.

    You came so close to holding on to what integrity you had left Strava, but unfortunately it's all but gone.

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  • So we are coming up on a month since this change was rolled out. Please can we have a update on what steps are being taken to fix it?

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  • What if the original page had too much on it and the cost of serving the information was too expensive for Strava, meaning they had to reduce its impact.  If that is so I can understand why they have done what they have. And if they admitted that (or something!), it would be even better.

    If I'm right about page cost, then they should let subscribers see the original functionality, because they are paying for it.

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  • As Strava have clammed up I guess we'll never know!

    One thing is for sure they are clueless when it comes to customer service.

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  • Hi folks, 

    Our apologies for the delay in further Strava updates. We are still carefully monitoring your feedback, concerns and suggestions and we are working hard on the improvements we mentioned previously.

    Please take a moment to check out some of our most recent changes, undoubtedly guided by some of your feedback:

    • The activity page map now defaults to a larger view with greater height so that you can view your route easier without using the map slider to manually expand the map. 
    • For the Performance chart, a y-axis has been added to be able to view scales for both elevation and pace, making the chart easier to interpret. 
    • We've added some more interactions with splits, so that now you can click on a specific mile split to zoom in to that section of the map. Scrolling over each split will also highlight the section on the map.
    • For those with laps, we've added better analysis for both the map view and performance chart view. 
    This is just a start, and there will be more updates soon to come!
    Thanks for your patience.
    - The Strava Team
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  • OK, thanks for the update, but it still seems like you're trying to put lipstick on a pig.  It's like a restaurant that used to make a good pizza that decided to change the recipe but now sends out a lump of dough  with a "good news" announcement, telling us how great it's all going to be and to be patient while the cooks figure out how to turn on the oven and periodic messages about how you've found a can of tomato sauce.

    The segment view *still* gives us less information. The UI requires that one click on each segment to get information that was readily accessible in a table before.  More mouse clicks to get same information is not an improvement. 

    Running speed is still inverted.  I guess that STRAVA feels that it somehow makes sense to display running pace backwards with faster meaning lower, counter to what *every other graphic display* uses and counter to the way that speed is displayed for cycling.  C'mon. It's just stupid.  Stopping now goes to infinity instead of the base axis. That's idiotic. It also makes for some very, very weird axis markers, compressing the (still unsmoothed) pace. 

    You still cannot view the graph as a function of time.

    There is still no axis for heart rate, and displaying heart rate removes other axes.

    You still cannot zoom to a portion of the graph, something that was easy and useful before. 

    The lap data still doesn't compute elevation change, something you used to do. 

    It's still regressive.  It's still an inferior layout. It's still missing the entire point. Still no real admission that you gave us back an inferior product.  Still no real admission that you're using us as guinea pigs and that fixing things internally until you can actually provide a *better* product is the intelligent and responsible way to do things. This shut up and wait attitude isn't going to get anyone to give you any money.  It's turning people off from buying. 

    Your intro message still starts with "Great news".  Please edit that. No one thinks this is great.  Now it's just insulting.


    Roll back until you can give us something that isn't totally regressive or expect to be bombarded with justifiable complaints. And don't expect any of us to give you a dime.  You're doing much to discourage anyone from buying your product.  You are trying to run a business, no?

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  • Yep the new update is still terrible. If I pause on a run then my whole graph is scaled so that my running pace takes up 10% of the view and the other 90% is a giant spike for the pause.

    No axis for heartrate or cadence and the axis for pace/elevation vanish if you enable either of them.

    I shouldn't have to tag my runs as walks to get the old view. Just give us a option to enable it for runs.

    Are you still planning on 'enhancing' the cycling view as well?

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  • "This is just a start, and there will be more updates soon to come!" Elle

    Why can't you see that nobody wants updates, just a roll back to what we had, what cycling has, what WALKING has!

    'Lipstick on a pig' is so true. Well done.

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  • Are you saying you are working hard on making the update as good as it was pre update ? That's insane. Roll it back and instigate the changes progressively, as you should have done in the first place. Yes, it's lipstick on a pig.
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  • I know it's crazy - but is it worth logging runs as walk just to get the better pages and until Strava fix it? I guess segments won't be matched etc No - ignore me, daft idea!
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  • Elle, I don't think you are understanding the problems.  I wish any one of us who used to look at our runs in Strava could sit with you and your design team at a computer screen, showing you how we used to go about looking at things, and where we stumble now.  I will not repeat any of the things, they are all repeated several times in this thread.  Please read again and make some serious notes, try to really understand each point that has been made, see it from the point of view of some different types of runners.  Maybe you could arrange a meeting with some road runners and hill runners from somewhere near you.

    We would really love to know why you don't want to (or can't) roll back.  And what happened to the original design team and programmers?  The ones who understood why (for example) the pace graph needs to be the other way up, as it was before?

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  • In the USA you guys say 'Lipstick on a Pig'....

    In the UK we have a similar term... 'You can't polish a turd'

    I'll continue to switch between walk and run to analyse any specific training run. Probably 20% of my runs.

    I'm sure you're a darling Elle, but you guys are getting it really, really wrong. It's almost beyond belief how badly you've messed this up.

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  • Just be original, be Strava don't try to copy Map My Run Interface. You just did exactly the same map with with pace on the side chart. You were the best tool to analyze, now you just look like a copy of Map My Run crappy interface.  Why spoil something that was good. Add more data analysis instead of useless design. It's not adding value at all. I am glad that I didn't get the premium membership and got Training Peaks instead. I would be very angry right now. Please bring back the old interface.

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  • Sorry I don't want to be rude, but all these updates are not good. It was better before. Please, bring back the old one.

    I agree "Lipstick on a pig!"

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