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Feedback for the updated Strava feed

We are excited to share with you a project that we've been working on for the past year - a new way to experience the Strava feed.

The feedback you've been sharing with us about better ways to sort and filter the feed has not gone unnoticed. The feed fuels the power of our community and is where athletes inspire and interact with each other. We discovered that on average Strava athletes miss almost 60% of the content in their feed every day. Strava's new feed presents a non-chronological ordering of activities based on characteristics we think are most valuable to you. 

Here's how it works:

When you refresh your feed, any content you haven't seen before will be at the top of the feed, above activities you've already seen. The order in which these new items appear is based on a learning algorithm that uses your past behavior to gauge whether you'll find content interesting. Comment a lot on your sister's activities? Her items will be ranked highly for you. Your friend just ran their best time for a 10K? That will get promoted as well. The algorithm will continue to evolve over time, learning as you use it. We won't hide any activities from you - they'll all be in your feed, just in a different order designed to ensure you don't miss the items that matter most to you. You can read more on our blog.

We will be slowly releasing the new feed over the coming weeks, along with close monitoring of performance and your feedback. You are welcome to add to the discussion below or contact us directly by submitting a ticket. 

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  • I'd like the option to have it chronological. It's been driving me nuts that it's not and I thought it was a bug and hoping it would be fixed with the next app update. I am missing stuff because I get to an activity I've already "kudosed" or commented on and assume I'm up to where I was last time I looked. How does an activity get into your feed if noone sees it in the first place? Activities would become popular because your algorithms have decided to show them on feeds. Not because they really are. Unless I'm completely missing the point. I've had the same issue/conplaint with FB and Instagram. At least FB still has an option to view newest posts. What if I am interested in something I've discussed with a friend but noone else is? Will I have to check each friend's personal feed? Please, please have the feed order as personal choice.

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  • I hate it. Please give an option.

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  • NO NO NO!! Chronological HAS to be kept as the default. I also HATE the stupid Facebook way of doing things.

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  • What a shame, Strava started out so great and has just been becoming more and more like Facebook with every update. I wouldn't be surprised if soon we'll get bombarded with adverts and have to pay to promote our activities.

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  • If this becomes like Facebook, you're going to lose me. I can use chron order and I check often enough that when I get to a certain point, I don't need to scroll further down. On FB, I often miss things I would like to see because some dumb algorithm has decided I don't want/need to see it. I would like the option to filter out trainer rides, idiotic Zwift pictures (Really? The back of an avatar? No thanks.), and challenge enrollments. 

    There are a lot more enhancements I'd rather have than this one. My guess is you're responding to people who follow EVERYONE, but only really want to see their friends. That's their problem. Why force this on everyone else?

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  • Congrats Strava! This post has achieved:

    👑 KOM for number of down-votes!

    🏆 Top 10 for # of comments!

    (I know this easily because I can sort the "Feature Discussion" feed in several different convenient ways.)

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  • Is there an option to view my feed chronologically? 

    Yes, an algorithmic feed is something I have experienced on other services (as you point out in the official comment (April 12, 2017 22:46)). 

    The algorithmic feed is why a now barely use Instagram and why I use Facebook about half as much as I used to.

    I'm sure some people like it, but many people hate it. Please, give us an option to view our feed in the chronological order we know and love.

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  • You say " missing the so-called “kudos window” - oh please, must Strava too pander to all the narcissists?   I echo all the posts wishing to keep the chronological order of activities as an option. The option to filter out all the challenges folks have joined too would un-clutter my feed too.

    Feed inspiration, not egoism. 

    There's sill lots of missing sport options, you've so many more static activities (Stair Stepper, Eliptical, Weight training, Virtual Ride etc) and still no Soccer, Basketball, Badminton, Tennis, Volleyball etc.  

    Strava is missing the ball in many ways. 

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  • No, no, no, no, no!

    Unlike Facebook et. al. posts, activities in Strava are not a popularity contest, or news items that might generate lots of lively discussion, or timeless thoughts that deserve to be highlighted. Strava activities are discreet events that occur one after the other.

    Chronological is great because: 

    -- I LIKE seeing who was out at 5am this morning, and who wasn't (and I'm happy to dig for it)
    -- I LIKE seeing my buddy's 6 day bike-pack trip IN ORDER as it is happening.
    -- I LIKE knowing a comment on a ride at the top of the feed that says "Trail is dry" is current, and not a reference to a ride last week.
    -- I LIKE scrolling through the past few weeks seeing who did what on what day, because when Friend X rides on Thursday, that's a BIG DEAL because he's supposed to be at work.
    -- Workouts are progressions, not random events. It's helpful to see the buildup / rest days / progression of my friend's workouts as she trains for a marathon.

    Why the random* algorithm is useless:

    -- No way to get a sense of how active person X really is because they're all randomly lumped
    -- I get excited when I see person X was on the same trail I just was, only to realize they were actually there last week
    -- Impossible to sort out WHEN an activity actually happened
    -- It seems an acquaintance who gets lots of kudos gets preferential treatment -- so my only option is to unfollow him to keep him from always commanding the top of my feed
    -- Just because I follow "Mr. KOM-a-day" doesn't mean I always want to see him front and center on my feed.
    -- More to the point of the above, you have no way of knowing who or what is important to me, so quit trying to guess.

    Can you please direct us to the thread of loyal Strava members begging for their feed to be randomly and illogically sorted? Because all I can find are the many requests like this one (from 2012, 318 "likes"), this one, this one, this one, this one, and many more asking for the ability to sort / filter the feed in USEFUL ways (hide commutes, see group rides, filter based on mileage, etc). These are all things that would help us get MORE out of Strava. Instead, now my feed is a confusing mess.

    Obviously, if it took a year of work to create this new "feature" Strava must be pretty proud of it, and likely won't reverse the change -- but how about we compromise?

    Possible solutions:

    -- A switch that allows us to toggle between chronological and random* (Even Facebook begrudgingly allows this)
    -- Put the three most "algorithmically interesting" rides up top, clearly boxed off as such, then show the regular chronological feed from there.

    Please listen to your customer base! We are taking time out of our day to write here because we do care, and feel quite strongly about this. Think about the number of users who are just frustrated silently.

    * You may say "it's not random" all you want, but it might as well be. It seriously makes me nauseous to look at as I try to sort the feed in my brain. Seeing a "today" ride several pages deep is just silly.

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  • I much prefer the old-style chronological feed.  This should still be an option.  As a Premium member, I don't want to pay for a service that forces you into social-media style curated content/ordering.  I will decide what is important to me!  

    Whilst I'm at it, I also hate the 'Suggested Athletes' that now appears in the feed.  It's not so bad on the web version, but on the iOS app, it takes up far too much room.  This sort of thing should be part of the Profile screen.  

    I will be thinking twice before renewing my premium membership next time...

     

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  • Congratulations Strava. Another paying member has canceled their premium subscription. I'll no longer pay for the "privilege" of experiencing the idiotic logic of your feed. 

    Like a lemming, your leadership chases the "curation" and "stories" that has inundated and overwhelmed digital media. I don't need or want this crap in my feed. Yet you give us no way to avoid it.

    Case in point: This week I opened the app to find four non-exercise/event posts in a row. One of them was encouraging me to join the Zwift Dimension Data Academy to possibly win a spot on a pro cycling team. I'M 44 YEARS OLD!!! You know that from my profile. WHY would that interest me?!?! WHY SERVE ME THAT PROMO?! EVEN if I was a Cat1 Masters Cyclist I wouldn't be Pro Team material. 

    You've killed a unique, solid product. 18 pages of comments (so far) and you JUST. DON'T. GET. IT.

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  • We want the ability to show our rides but to also pen private training notes. This should be a simple fix. Your changes are fluff. Do something real.

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  • I agree with so many others. I prefer chronological. Please make this optional.

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  • No.  I want my posts in chronological order, not whatever order you think I want.  If you must implement it, please have an option to leave things chronological.

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  • Please don't do this.  This sort of self promoting algorithm C**P is why I hate Facebook so much.  I want to see all the mundane things the people I am following do.  I don't want to just see a highlights real of the biggest self promoters.

    Please leave it as chronological timeline and let people search and discover the fantastic achievements.   That is what makes it special. Not because your algorithm threw it under their nose. 

    Also what happened to "commuting counts", I assume smaller distance regular commutes will be just sent to the bottom.......

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  • As promised a few weeks ago, I’ve not renewed my premium this past weekend because of your lack of ability to listen to your users. I’ll continue to use the site as a free user but you won’t be getting my money anymore.

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  • Give me the option to keep my feed chronological. Do not default to this - make sure there is choice.

    Otherwise, you have gone the way of facebook and will lose me if not others.

     

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  • This would be simply terrible. It would not be an improvement and not a feature that would support paying for premium. ....Please allow the choice of feed including chronological order.

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  • Leave it alone or make sure I have the option to keep it chronological. It looks like I am in agreement with most of the rest of the posts. We'll see if the feedback you requested means anything. I'm a big boy, I don't need Strava making decisions on what I want to see. Premium member.

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  • NOOOOOOOO! Leave it alone!

    Having got to the end of the third page of comments and voting on them all, it appears that over 90% DO NOT WANT this feature FORCED ON THEM !

    It ain't broke and don't need fixin'! PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR MEMBERS! ;-)

    Garmin Connect is VERY under rated and gives much more info than STRAVA - It's starting to look even more appealing now!

     

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  • If you go down the same stupid path as Facebook with some ridiculous non-chronological event ordering I'm quitting now.

    This is the most absurd idiotic move you could make.

    If you do this you'll have to offer an Opt-out option so we don't have to put up with this crap if we don't want to.

    If you spent a year on this endeavor you literally wasted your time. FB in non-chronological order is a disaster.

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  • Chiming in: Please make this an *option* so we can still see things chronologically

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  • And ironically, this comments section can be sorted by date or number of votes!

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  • Unsurprisingly, your system doesn't even work.

    Best mate just completed his very first marathon. You buried his activity underneath a bunch of random ones from people I don't even know, including a 6k slow jog with a description in a foreign language, some pro runner using an eliptical machine, someone on a casual sunday bike ride, etc.

    Just like Instagram's algorithm, it's doing the EXACT OPPOSITE and putting the absolute least interesting things to me at the top, and pushing my friends important posts to the bottom.

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  • Utterly idiotic idea.....a non chronological listing is utterly pointless especially if you are involved as I am with a long term cycle tour which I have organized as an artist in residence where it is absolutely crucial to be able to review the chronological progress of the cycle tour. It is especially important when reviewing the routes for exhibitions of artworks done during the tour and for organizing the information as part of a coherent exhibition......This non chronological listing has to be the worst idea ever......If this is to stay I shall be looking for an alternative to strava for logging my journey. In an artist in residence where the journey is the residency a chronological listing is so easy so sensible....and absolutely necassary....what the hell where you guys thinking.....If this is to stay then give people the option to turn it off

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  • I would also like to keep feeds in a chronological order or at least have this option, also it would be helpful to be able to omit challlenges. I use Zwift as I'm still recovering from a badly broken wrist and have found this very helpful and appreciate being able to view friends Zwift rides.

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  • Make this optional please.

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  • I love how everyone hates this feature and strava claims it's "feedback you've been sharing with us about better ways to sort and filter the feed." Leave it chronological.

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  • I absolutely hate the new feed on my Strava. I never had a problem seeing my friends activities before but now... Well now I can't ever get to see everyone and sometimes get posts from multiple days ago when all I want too look at is who rode where today!

    I said hate because it has made an app I love an app I am now considering replacing... With something else.

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  • Arrg! I do not want someone else, or even worse, a computer algorithm, telling me what order I should see things. Every time I use Facebook I have to set the feed order back to chronological from the arbitrary nonsense that the algorithm has decided I should see. For example, just because I've commented, or given kudos, for a particular activity does not mean that I want that person's activities to be top of my feed every bloody day.
    Treat us with some respect please and at least provide the option to reset back to chronological.

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