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Duplicate Cycling Segments for Ebike Segments

Hi,

a lot of people with ebike are still registering their activities as nomral bike because no segments exists in the ebike section.

Most of them do that because they don't know (or they don't want to spend the time) to create new segment in Ebike categorie.

I think it will be awesome if all the bikes segments could be duplicate in eBikes categories.

This way, the ebikes owner are gona record their activities in the ebike section because they will be able to see the existing segments.

Of course, keep the leaderboard seperate, just duplicate the segments.

 

Thanks.

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  • I'm sick of discussing it now. Strava have effectively said "e-bikes, p**s off, we're not bothered".

    It's pretty simple (or so you'd think!!!), copy the segments from "ride" to "ebike".

    They cant understand how the 2 things are the same people riding the same trails and wanting to continue riding the segments they've ridden for years. Its pissing off ebike riders, its pissing off non ebike riders.

    I've argued via email with them and now given up..... NY solution is this.... I now record every ride as a "ride"... if someone flags it they flag it. I've lost faith completely and strava's inflexibility is churlish. I'm a paying customer, but that's stopping tomorrow..

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  • I´m using Nick´s fix with good success, the only thing is that I have about 100 segments between my 2 MTB parks, so it´s going to take a while to upload all the segments due to the Strava limitation of how many segments you can create

     

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  • Paul, how about just making your own e-bike segments rather than causing problems for the rest of us? Your issue is with Strava, don't punish the rest of us.

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  • Hi Jason... I've spent many years creating segments, riding hundreds of other segments and have years worth of data. Strava have washed their hands of Ebikers asking simply to be able to continue riding the same segments they have done for years. It cant be hard to copy the segment data points and implant it to "E-bike"..... easy I'd say. But 'Strava' (a representative told ne directly) identify ebikes as a new thing.... in the same 'new thing' way they see running, swimming etc as new disciplines. If it annoys you that some ebikers record as a ride (and it should annoy you), complain to starve and ask them to do something about it.... PLEASE!!!!!
    as an aside, I've cancelled my subscription, and will be just using garmin from now on

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  • So agree with you Paul. Many of my ebike rides I now just record as normal rides. I want to see and record the same segments i’ve ridden for years now.

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  • Tired of eRides issues, I converted all my eActivities to standard rides. As a consequence, I am now the KOM in some in heavy ramps, apologies to the rightful owners... I will change those rides to not visible, I do not want to cheat on KOMs

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  • I've had KOMs on purely DH sections where it wasneither here bor there what format bike I was riding... but have had it flagged because it's a ebike.
    Im past caring now

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  • Strava, are you counting votes on this? The issue will only grow as ebikes proliferate. Look at the sales in Austria and Switzerland. It's only a matter of time, so why not lead? 

    I agree, there needs to be a way to separate e-bikes from regular bikes on the same segments. If I ride both, I don't want my e-bike results overriding my best regular bike efforts, but I do want to record them. There must be a way to have a checkbox to click if e-bike in the gear profile, then the data is handled separately. You can differentiate running and biking on the same segments, right? Just duplicate that functionality.

    Thanks.

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  • Hey Nick, the buttons disapeared for me, I've reinstalled the Tampermonkey and the script and still they are not there, any suggestions?

    Thanks a lot for this!

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  • Hi Roberto, hmm the script still seems to be working for me - can you open the browser console (it's Ctrl-Shift-I on Chrome) and see if there are any error messages associated with userscript.html?

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  • Fritz - Actually, no, running and biking is just like biking and e-biking.  Running and biking are not using the same segments.  It is probably just that people have created running segments that mirror the biking ones, just like people can create e-bike segments that mirror biking ones if they want.  Personally, I would love to be an e-biker and be able to just about start from scratch in making my segments.  There are far too many people who have screwed up the regular bike segments by either creating multiple duplicates or using bad start/stop locations so it doesn't record accurately.  If you just duplicated the existing regular bike segments to e-bike, then the e-bikers would have to deal with all of the screwed up segments as well. 

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  • I opened the browser console and I couldn't see anything... It's something with this computer, it runs well on another one.

    Thanks

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  • For anyone who's been using my script, it unfortunately stopped working about a month ago once Strava updated their webpage. I think/hope I've fixed it now - if you go to Tampermonkey and click on "Check for userscript updates" it should update it automatically. To make sure, go to installed userscripts and make sure it's at least version 0.5.2. Let me know how it goes - I'm not actually much of a javascript programmer so I'm sure there are still bugs!

    Oh and Mark sorry I missed your message - it'll copy ANY regular bike segments that have been made along the ride that you've done, and make them into ebike segments using your Strava account. I'm regretting making this script now, someone with a souped up illegal (in Aus) ebike has been taking all the segments I've created lol :P

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  • tried Nick's script for the first time today - installed Tampermonkey, got the buttons when looking at my e-bike rides. However, when I click a button, the ride changes from e-bike to normal ride, and then the process seems to stop, with Strava saying underneath the map "No Segments On This Activity". If I then refresh the browser, lots of segments appear (and the activity type is still 'normal' ride). Am I missing something, or is the process supposed to work from start to finish automatically (including setting the activity type back to e-bike) without user intervention?

    thanks

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  • Hi Nick. Thanks for creating that script - it has proved really useful to help me duplicate (and curate) a bunch of segments in my local MTB area. However, I've been having a little difficulty of late. It says that I have updated in Tampermonkey, but the version is showing as 0.5.1. Also in the script listed as 0.5.2 on Github, it is still showing version 0.5.1 at line 4. 

    Anyway, one of the problems I've encountered is similar to Graham above, when it changes to "Ride", the browser initially comes up with no segments, but if I manually refresh the "Ride" page, all the ride segments appear. It would be great if the script could include an extra refresh in here to help pick up the full list of "Ride" segments before changing back to "E-bike Ride". 

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  • Common Strava,

    There are 10's of thousands of eBikers all looking for a different app or product because our favorite tool (Strava) is ignoring us. Give us eBikers an easy way to duplicate Strava segments. 

     

    Many of us - like me - have both an eBike and an Analogue bike. Personally I do not currently record my eBike rides - but hundreds/Thousands of eBikers are reporting/recording eBike rides as normal rides and to be fair its really Pi****g alot of us off.... DOn't chase us away Strava... Cater for us....

     

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  • This request has been going on for 3 years - clearly it's never going to happen.  Nick has done his bit (thanks for your efforts to date!), but sadly I'm having issues with the script now and I'm not familiar enough with JS to resolve the problems myself - is there anyone else out there that would care to take a look?  In chrome I get an error on line 159 when trying to open new windows.

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  • I would love to start over making segments rather than be stuck with all of the duplicate and poorly made ones already in the system for bikes. Be careful what you ask for.

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  • Good point Jason Lamoreaux

    Regular segments database has plenty of crap

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  • Dear Strava, Like it or not, ebikes are here to stay, and I think if you don’t figure this out SOON you are going to lose out to a competitor’s app. Our favorite segments are already the standard...It’s not practical to duplicate them. Please help and DO SOMETHING! Just FYI I don’t own an ebike.

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  • Please copy bike segments to ebike activity..... or we are going to have to create our own segments (that will probably be different)

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  • I have made over 450 segments for e-bikes, in Epping forest UK, copying the old segments over from the bike section is not the way to go. Strava just needs to make an e bike specific section for us. We have leader boards running and e-bike riders are competing on these segments. All we need from Strava are live segments and segment search. 

    If you put the effort in and make e bike specific segments you will be surprised how e bike riders change their rides to e bike category and the amount of riders is increasing once the word gets around they have something to compete for. 

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  • I totally agree with Craig C that copying all of the normal bike segments straight over to e-bike is not a good idea. There is far too much rubbish in there, some of them with very unsafe start and end points right at busy road intersections. I have previously commented on this forum in support of those wanting Strava to simply duplicate all bike segments over to e-bike but have now changed. It's not hard to set up new segments. I will now switch my lobbying efforts to getting Strava to make e-bike segments searchable

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  • Robert

    I contacted strava again, after they announced all these new changes and how they will prioritise paying customers with regards to e bikes. Well surprise surprise I got the stock reply basically saying, we aren't interested in e-bikes so you wont be getting anything in the way of upgrades. All they want is our money.

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  • This has been requested on a separate e-bike thread too... see https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360011314871-Copying-bike-segments-across-to-E-Bike-activity-type%C2%A0 

    But this isn't just about e-bikes, its about how segments are created in general. It could be easier really. You could be able to tick which activities you would like the segment to apply to (thus creating separate leaderboards) without having to go out and do the track again as a separate activity. A trail and segment that is good for running can be just as good for walking, hiking, biking, e-bikes, etc... and it also applies to having the ability to make bi-directional segments, just have a box that you could tick for both ways instead of having to do it again in the opposite direction. Obviously showing up as separate segment leaderboards.    

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  • Duplicating segments across different activities benefits trail runners as well, not just eMTBers.

    Strava is tone deaf on this, at the same time they want us to pay up.

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  • Surely as the last comment I seen from Strava was 3 years ago and a lot has moved on this should be reconsidered or even in the pipeline

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  • Very odd that Strava can not do something about this.

    No way i wil pay for Strava again if this is not adressed. This is even more important then my request for a Snow kiteing specific setting. The only setting that match and displays data interesting for Snowkiters today is "Ride" wich it kind of is, just not on a bike. Kitesurfing uses nautical terms (speed and distance) wich makes no sense on land.

    Strava please understand that you need to adapt and evolve to get customers to pay and stay... Not worth a subscription for me so far..

     

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  • Surely this is a no-brainer to do - for Strava not to do this is unbelievable.

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