Record Apple Watch HR with iPhone app

I like the new standalone app for the Apple Watch series 2 but the GPS signal is not as good as the iPhone.

While biking in the mountains the watch loses the signal. 

I would like to use the iPhone as GPS and use the Apple Watch for the heart rate.

Is this possible?

 

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    Thanks all, we've updated the title of this discussion to try and avoid future confusion with general HR recording issues with the current standalone Apple Watch app. We completely understand the shortcomings with the standalone Apple Watch app when it comes to recording with multiple sensors in addition to heart rate, like cadence and power, and with the preference of viewing the recording from the iPhone app. Know that your feedback is heard, but at this time our top priorities are to fix the Apple Health <> Strava integration and to support indoor Apple Watch recording. We will do our best to consider this feedback at a later time. 

    And thanks especially to CS Tan who helped clear up the recent known issue with the Apple Watch recording heart rate data. If anyone else is recording with the Apple Watch app and not seeing their heart rate, follow the troubleshooting steps mentioned below on page 3 or contact us directly. 

     

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  • Thanks Daniel, From what I've heard from our engineering team this is not easy to do based on how the Apple Watch is designed. Meaning, it is more difficult than expected to simply connect the Apple Watch to the phone app like any other biometric sensor to record heart rate. Note that the previous Strava app that tethered to the phone worked very differently to record heart rate and GPS in one recording, so it's not possible to simply use some old code. 

    However, we are working hard to consider this request and research the potential options. Thanks for the post. 

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  • I have the same problem. I use my iPhone with a Quad lock mounted on the handle bars to track my ride which is far better than the app on my Apple Watch, but now since the new update I lost all my heart rate data coming from the Watch. 

    Is this problem likely to be fixed in the near future or should I be looking for another device to track my heart rate data.

     

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  • You say it is "not possible to simply use some old code".

    That is FALSE.

     

    You can follow the lead of others use the old code and create a separate watch app for runners.

    Have a great day!

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  • Apple watch series 1 owner.......Really bummed I have to pick recording heart beat ( watch app)  or Cadence ( iPhone app)  when I used to get both.     

    Any way to downgrade to the old app where everything worked?  

     

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  • I have the same problem. I always use iphone to recording and works good on previous Strava app. But now, I can't see any information on watch and get heart rate data....sad.

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  • This is an app killer from the user perspective. The AW heart rate sensor plus gps from the phone HAD made Strava the KILLER APP, but now nothing works like it should. Now, I think Strava is telling me I have to buy a new Apple Watch to be able to continue using their platform because my AW 1 doesn't have GPS. I don't understand this app design from any engineering standpoint. Was there some API that Apple changed that disallows he old mode of operation? The explanation that Elle Anderson is pretty thin, and probably just a PR message. Elle, is this a move to get more users signed up for premium?

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  • From an engineering standpoint it shouldn't be that hard to get the two stand-alone applications communicating with each other:

    If either the Watch or iPhone already started an activity, the other app communicates with the first one on startup and joins in the activity. If both apps are already open and one starts an activity, the other joins in immediately. You could even show notifications if, e.g. the user doesn't start the other app within 30 seconds or so.

    Besides the obvious benefit of having the activity on the iPhone and Watch screen, communication between the two apps could also be used to improved accuracy: you would have GPS data available from two devices and also data from two accelerometers -- which could be used to improve the auto-pause feature.

     

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  • +1 for me.

    Even if it's technically "hard" to do on device (which is not very likely, but I guess it's just a matter of resources and priorities), there's another solution:

    - record a ride on the phone

    - record a ride on the watch

    - have the server combine them into one (taking only the biometric data from the watch ride, for example, and time match that with the data from the phone). 

    I tried this and Strava did detect that the two rides were "simultaneous" by showing that I rode with… myself… for any of those two rides. So it's "just" a matter of combining these into one. 

    Anyway: please?

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  • +1 for me

    I have the Apple Watch series 0 and I need to use my iphone as a gps to register my training, but I want to use my apple watch to record my heart rate, I can' believe that it is technically complicated with the APIs available today, other applications like Runtastic do it to perfection, in fact, start recording the route on the iphone and automatically in the watch is launched the application and you are registering the heart rate, there are many users with apple watch series 0 and 1 who need this . Please give us an answer and solution, sure that a professional developer will solve it. We trust in you.

    Thanks.

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  • I also use the Quad Lock on my bike so I like the Strava App visual on the iPhone.  I also have the iWatch series 2 and really would like to track my heart rate in conjunction with the Strava app.  I guess I will simply have to use the Health app on the watch and separately use the Strava App. to track my route, speed, etc.  The problem is this doubles up the workout on the watch and iPhone as it looks like you have worked out twice, since the stats other than heart rate are linked.

    Makes sense to sure this up.

     

    Ronnie 

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  • I'm with Fred! Give us back the AW1 app and write an AW2 app for runners only.

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  • Yes, this is a bit silly to be quite frank!

    I am new to Strava and cycling. But the first time I recorded from the Apple Watch I expected the watch to talk to the phone somehow and show me that it had started to record, and show the speed and distance, but nothing.

    Next time i tried to start to record from the phone, expecting the heart rate data to be retrieved from the apple watch... but nothing.

    Can't be that hard to have an app on the phone communicate with its own app on the watch... I work as a programmer.

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  • Thanks Jason, 

    There are no updates available at this time, but this potential project is still on the table. We just haven't found a way forward yet or committed to work on this project yet. 

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  • Elle,

    I really don't understand why you can't do this. AW1 app read my heart rate and recorded on the phone. You've had this working, then you broke it.

    Sam

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  • I just started the premium trial specifically so I could use my Apple Watch 2 to record heart rate during my rides. I prefer to record the ride from my phone, because I have it mounted on my handlebars. Imagine my surprise when I looked for heart rate data, only to have Strava try to sell me another heart rate monitor (!?!?!).

    The "this is hard" excuse is weak. I've been using Nike+ Run Club for a few months to track my running, and it tracks heart rate from my watch when I'm recording a run from my iPhone with no problems.

    You've lost a potential Premium customer - I'm going to go look for a better cycling app now.

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  • It appears that MapMyRun app does what we are requesting.  My wife starts the app on her phone, it launches the iPhone app, and she sees workout details synced on both screens, including heart rate.  It's possible.  Will test their MapMyRide app for similar functionality.  My preference would be stay Strava, but I want to cycle with my larger iPhone screen (easier to see without my reading glasses on) but capture hr from the watch.  

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  • I have been in contact with support and getting the same message. For this reason I cancelled my premium subscription and now use Cyclemeter which IS capable of reading from the watch and uploading from my power meter for wattage, and I can see the data simultaneously on both devices (although admittedly the wealth of data may cause me to crash). Ironically I can even upload this into Strava and still see segments, PR's, etc. What I can NOT do is see my power meter data or a suffer score in my basic subscription. Anyone know if I paid Strava again for their handicapped app if I would be able to see my suffer score and power meter data if it was originally recorded with Cyclemeter and then synced with Strava? Sad that his little company has figured it out and Strava claims it is too hard...

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  • I just started using Cyclemeter ("Elite" subscription is ~$14USD/yr), and it does everything I've been looking for (and a ridiculous amount more). As an added bonus it can also upload data to Strava, including heart rate data from the Apple Watch, which can then let it compute a Suffer Score etc... I doubt that'll keep working once my month of free Strava Premium expires, but no big deal.

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  • Yes, agree.. if it's really that difficult, start recording on both watch and phone, and merge the two activities together instead of posting it as two activities!

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  • +1
    I want to use the iPhone as cycle computer and have heart rate too. We know it's possible, Strava just has to make a proper update.

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  • Hi, I have the same request. When jogging in the Bushveld I would like to use the phone, because I need the satellite view to see where I can go and I then want to use the Apple watch 2 as my heart rate sensor.

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  • unreal...Heard so much about Strava and it's "wonderful" app. So, I moved from Runtastic that worked great with recording heart rate on watch and data available on iPhone. What happened here Strava? I purchased Strava Premium but will be returning to Runtastic for the more complete app syncing.

     

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  • I feel like I was bamboozled into upgrading to premium for this very reason.  I can't believe they don't have the heart rate sync.  I like the app and the challenges but this just seems like laziness if other apps can provide it and Strava can't.

    Once my free trial period is over I will be canceling my premium membership and when people ask what app I use suggest something other than Strava. 

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  • I'll chime in too - ditched mapmyride on the advice of my bike club - "everyone uses strava" and plenty with the premium membership.

    But I have my iPhone on a quad lock and my Apple Watch 2 on my wrist - I want to run the app from my phone but get heart rate data from my watch. I'm not a programmer, but if other apps can do this, not sure why it is such a difficult thing for Strava to implement. As I understand it, they did do this previously.

     

    So - PLEASE bring this functionality back and you will have a new premium member.

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  • +1
    I'd also be interested in this ability.

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  • I'm confounded by Strava's lack of focus on this issue. This is a deal breaker particularly for women. Women are not going to run without their phones for safety. And since there are no audio cues on the AW2 Strava app it drives us back to the running Strava on the phone. 

    If Strava cannot use the AW2 as a heart rate sensor when run on the phone it is useless in today's sports technology market.  

    I'm a loyal Strava user and would love to continue to be but at this point I'm looking into other apps. The AW2 is much better than I thought it was going to be and I want to use it. 

     

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  • In a slightly separate use case, cyclist like myself who use a Garmin head unit with power meter would like HR data as well, however I hate wearing a heart rate strap.. would be great if I could merge my watch recording and Garmin data so I have power and HR in one file (so basically using the watch as a HR monitor only).. 

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  • Ditto for me. Need heart rate data from watch and so I have use Cyclemeter on iphone and then it automatically uploads to strava. Seems weird strava removed this feature when it used to work fine. Wil not renew renew premium strava as I use Cyclemeter to do data analysis now and strava is just like posting to Facebook to keep up with friends.

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  • This is getting REALLY annoying, I started my run from my iPhone with my Apple Watch connected (I did not start the watch app). I had GPS signal acquired and got the voice confirmation that it had paused. I put my phone in my shorts pocket (as I always do) and started my run. I got the voice confirmation that the activity was resumed.

    At 1.6km I got the voice notification, current distance 0.5km (1.1km missing) time 7.56 mins (correct) current split pace 16.14 /km (I can walk faster than that backwards)

    I stop my activity https://www.strava.com/activities/1125242629

    Switch off my watch and start a new activity https://www.strava.com/activities/1125294198 everything is tracked perfectly

    I REDO the first section again without watch https://www.strava.com/activities/1125314313 it tracks it perfectly

    So the bottom line is you cannot even have your Apple connected to your phone let alone use it ass the interface for the app. 

    @strava. You broke a perfectly good app.

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