Record Apple Watch HR with iPhone app

I like the new standalone app for the Apple Watch series 2 but the GPS signal is not as good as the iPhone.

While biking in the mountains the watch loses the signal. 

I would like to use the iPhone as GPS and use the Apple Watch for the heart rate.

Is this possible?

 

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  • Elle - is this happening?

    I don't understand how it's so hard to incorporate heart rate only into the existing strava app, but if it really is - why don't you just release a second basic app that just fills this need? Seems like a good fix considering you already have the code to hand from the previous version...

    Not getting my money's worth on my premium anymore. This is a deal breaker unless fixed.

    Can you guys afford to not fix this?

    L

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  • Now officially an ex paid premium user as I can’t use the Apple Watch to record heart rate. Should have canceled and asked for refund but just let it expire. Seriously Strava you can’t fix this now for a year? What used to work now does not and you can’t fix it in all that time? You don’t want Apple Watch users who can afford to pay for your service to be customers? Big Sigh, can’t understand your business model or how this will make you successful.

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  • Hi, After some tweaking, the heart rate on the watch app now works properly. This is with an apple watch 2. I had to delete the watch app and reinstall it, then it seemed to record the heart rate. 

    I had a new iPhone as of a couple months ago. So, I had to relink the watch. I noticed that the Health app was showing two watches with the same name (not sure if this was causing problems). I then changed the name of the watch in the watch app on the phone, then went back to the health app and made sure that the new watch name was top of the list of preferred devices for the "Exercise Minutes", "Active Energy" and "Workouts". 

    I've no idea which of the above fixed the issue, but now the heart rate is tracked for my bike rides, and they show up in both the health data, and in the files that are uploaded to Strava website. So, now I get the proper calorie credits in the Health app and the heart rate is part of the Strava workout data. 

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  • I got an iWatch 3 for Christmas. I can't believe that the heart rate data does sync with Strava. this is crap. I'm not renewing my Strava sub until it has this functionality. 

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  • Is this really a Strava problem or has it to do with Apple crap phones and watches? For me the heart rate has worked fine in Strava on iPhone Watch 2 since September 2017 when I got my new iPhone Watch. But recently there was a watch update and since then my heart rate monitor in Strava has fallen out. It still works in the heart rate app. Very strange and very frustrating. I don’t expect to get an answer here either, since I don’t see many responses or solutions from the Strava team or from other members.

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  • The problem we have is that to capture heart rate you need to use the watch to start and stop the workout and then strava works fine to capture heart rate data and display information on the watch, but the phone display shows nothing. Bike riders like to look at the phone  to see speed and such as it is mounted to the handlebars and is easier to read. If you start and stop strava from the phone then strava never connects you on the watch to get the heart rate data. Strava is written for runners and for bike riders it is useless and most of us bike riders use other apps now and best upload the data to Strava. I don’t think this is a problem with Apple as the app I use (Cyclemeter) works fine. I can start from phone or watch, end on either and both displays work at the same time. That’s why many of have canceled or let expire our premium subscriptions to Strava as we have been waiting for this to be fixed for a year and no joy. I get better and more detailed data from Cyclemeter and I doubt I would go back to Strava at this point.

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  • I got an apple watch v3 for Xmas. One of the main reasons for doing so was so that I could run without the phone and the chest strap hr monitor. Very disappointed to install the strava watch app and find that it will not record heartrate data. The native apple workout app does. The watch hrm works fine in other apps. This is a strava issue. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the strava apps on the phone and the watch. No fix. All necessary permissions etc in place. Such a disappointment.

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  • I wonder why the hr monitor in the Strava app on my iWatch worked well for many months and now suddenly it doesn’t anymore. How many of Strava users do not have a problem with the hr monitor? Are we just a minority that experience these problems? Can we ever expect a solution from Strava or whoever is responsible? I like Strava because I’m used to it now, but also because of the social networks/clubs I’m part. I will not prolong my Premium membership until this is fixed.

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  • Who would have thought that those willing to fork out $$$ for carbon race bikes and pour obsessively over their Strava segments would ALSO represent a huge market equally willing to fork out on Apple products, such as the Watch and expect them to work together.

    Not Strava apparently.

    Premium subscription cancelled. Please let us know wether you get around to resolving what is essentially a basic bit of coding, that just so happens to sit at the core of what your product should be able to do.

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  • Strava, I hope you are hearing that we WANT to stay with Strava. We love the segments and the leaderboards and comparing with our friends who ride with us. But we will end up leaving Strava if we can’t get our heart rate from our Apple Watches into our IPhone Strava app. 

    To you it might seem simple: just use Strava on your Watch instead. But Strava on the watch leaves out whole segments of our rides because of the crappy GPS. 

    Please HELP US STAY WITH STRAVA. We want to. 

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  • I've been using Strava and Apple Watch Series 2 with iOS 10 / watchOS 3. No problems recording my ride on the watch. Crappy GPS is not what I've discovered, so no deal breaker for me.

    Now, after I've updated to iOS 11 + watchOS 4, the watch records my ride as before but without any heart rate information. The sensor is on (green lights always on), but no recording. Also no detailed data in Health app.

    I checked permissions in Health and Settings app, but couldn't find any issue there. Is there anything I can do, or is Strava on the turn?

    Please, Strava bring this feature back :´-(

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  • Hi Strava Team, can we please get a response with what the plan is here? A lot of your customers (probably soon to be ex-customers) are left hanging waiting to know if you plan on including this feature.

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  • for the people (who ended up here due to the google search result) trying to get the watch app to record HR (as a standalone app, not the phone+watch approach as suggested by the thread), here is the fix:

    1. Uninstall and reinstall both watch and phone strava app (remember to keep the data)

    2. Pair the watch app to the phone via the phone app. Authorise location, notification, legal disclaimer, motion & fitness. DO NOT AUTHORISE THE HEALTH PERMISSION (the last one in the list)

    3. Start the watch app, start the run / ride recording. Tap on the greyed out HR icon, the watch will display a message asking to enable HEALTH permission. Check your phone, follow the setting prompt and complete the HEALTH permission link.

    these steps fixed up my watch app and it’s now recording my HR for both run / ride. I am using Apple Watch 3 non LTE (watchOS 4.2) and IPhone X (ios 11.2.1)

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  • Thanks CS Tan, this worked perfectly for me.

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  • Like many in this thread, I was feeling frustrated that HR didn’t work after I updated my OS. I followed CS Tan’s suggestion above and that did the trick! It’s just a bug.

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  • This thread has been somewhat hijacked by a different challenge, that being to simply get the AW to record HR when used as a standalone device.

    Whilst I'm sure we are all super happy there seems to be a workaround. Lets perhaps try to get back to the original intent of this thread.

    Use Case: Using phone (on a Quadlock or similar) as Strava controller and display + just getting HR info from an Apple Watch.

    Any comment Strava..?

    <crickets> 

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  • CS Tan's solution also works for me. Thank you for sharing!

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  • To CS Tan. 

    Can you confirm if, once you go through the process above, does the HR show 'live' on the iPhone? 

    At the moment I use both devices - the iPhone as a visual aid during the ride but I upload the data from the Apple Watch (S2) as it includes the HR info at the end of the ride.  I then delete the iPhone activity instead of uploading it (so as not to duplicate the activity). 

    Ideally, I would like to see the HR live on the iPhone screen during the activity and upload the Activity from the iPhone as I believe it is a bit more accurate than the watch.  Thanks, Chris

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  • Today I decided to take a crack at this. I recorded two separate activities. One on my Apple Watch using the Strava app and one on my iPhone using the Strava app. The app uploaded both activities. I then downloaded the .tcx files for both after researching what data points are in each file type. I had never heard of a .tcx file, let alone knew how it was structured. So I opened one up in a text editor, and to my surprise, it was super readable and very straightforward. Then I wrote a simple script to take all the heart rate data from one file and paste it over the other file. I deleted the two separate activities in Strava and uploaded the new combined activity containing power, cadence, speed, and heart rate data. Boom.

    The total time from knowing nothing about how any of this data is actually collected to a working prototype of using the Apple Watch as a heart rate monitor: ≈ 3 hours. This feature is totally possible.

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  • to Chris McPherson:

    I went for a bike ride this morning and ran both the watch and the phone app at the same time, the phone app does not have the "live HR rate", which is expected, the 2 apps are implemented as 2 separate entities and recording 2 different activities, which is the trigger for this thread and all the rage :)

     

    to people asking for an (watch + phone) implementation:

    I don't mean to derail the conversation, but wouldn't it be easier to get another iphone ANT+ compatible device for this purpose? If you are serious about the cycling/running HR analysis, perhaps apple watch is not the appropriate tool (it's more of a jack of all trades device). As for those who stated "it's not that hard". I don't think it's about the technical implementation, it's about the future direction of this product. I for one would like to see the watch app works as a standalone entity (aligning it to Apple's vision of the watch). If you have the technical ability, perhaps you could create an IFTTT script (https://ifttt.com/strava) to combine 2 sets of data (and even posting it to the social media).

    finally to the strava team:

    Love the app (both watch and phone), and the effort to engage a wider community :) 

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  • Most people are not going to buy a different device than the Apple Watch. I know I will not. We are using other sofware. I know of at least 10 people in my various group rides who have stopped using Strava. I am on of the few still uploading to Stava but most others don’t bother. Strava can keep both their new vision and allow a workaround for users and eventually they will or they will fail as you can’t alienate all Apple Watch users and maintain critical mass - and people are leaving Strava over this already. So Strava’s sweet spot is now runners who don’t want to carry their phone. That’s the message from Strava. Message received by those who don’t fit that target market loud and clear and hence why people are complaining in the thread and leaving as premium Strava users over this.

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  • @Cole @David. 

    Interesting viewpoints and we obviously have different opinion of the product. As you said the ideal scenario would be for Stava to keep the new vision and allow a workaround. I shall extract myself from this thread and hope you guys get what you wanted from Strava. And more importantly, enjoy your bike ride!

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  • I love these comments on the 'direction of the product'.

    Let's be clear; Strava is in the business of selling subscriptions to Premium.

    So, any use case that meets the needs of user wanting to record a workout that will drive subscriptions (or threatens subscriber drop-off) is the core of their business. 

    To shift thinking to a device-centric approach whereby their focus is centred around set device use cases (i.e. running without a phone) is both short-sighted and frankly dumb. Not only does it make their brand subservient to manufacturers like Apple/Garmin and reduces their subscriber base, it also means their business becomes held to ransom by the applicability, update cycles and uptake of a narrow set of devices.

    RE: "Why don't you just buy another HR monitor?" - because I have one that works fine on my wrist, but more importantly one that does everything else in my life (sleep/diet/HR/Weight..ect..). Apple Health is an amazing tool as it aggregates EVERYTHING. Strava would be well advised to find a way to integrate this functionality for every user or be dropped by those wanting a single source of data for all health info - which most Apple users are gradually migrating to.

     

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  • As a relatively new cycling user I've also discovered the approach Chris McPherson talks about. I carry my iPhone with me. Run both apps, save the Apple Watch version and discard the iPhone one. Then I get everything I want, segments, heart rate, the lot.  I had trouble with duplicate entries too but this seems the solution for me anyway. I can see live heart rate on my watch if I want to.  Fiddly and not ideal but so far so good....

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  • It's clearly technically possible to make the Watch and Phone apps work side by side as RunKeeper has an option for this. I recently got a Strava Premium subscription but I suspect I will not be renewing it if I am unable to run both apps side by side. As it is, I have to either do heart rate and convenient wrist display or routes and real-time splits. I shouldn't have to choose between these!

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  • This is insane since an app like Runtastic is able to use the Watch as an extra monitor and record the HR easily. It should work from the first Watch generation. Obviously I prefer Strava for many reasons, but we need to track that info!

    Thanks.

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  • Thanks @CS_Tan. Your solution worked for me as well.

    John

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  • I’m a runner who is migrating from the failed Nike Plus app, but want to both carry my phone and utilize heart rate tracking from my Apple Watch. I tried out Strava this evening and was dismayed to learn that the iPhone app didn’t make my watch start recording heart rate as if it were exercise.
    I was ready to go all-in on Strava and subscribe, and did a google search to figure out what I did wrong. I now see this feature isn’t a priority to Strava, so now I’m off to a different app that can meet my needs.

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  • @Sara, if you want to carry your watch and phone, why don’t you start your activity from the watch?
    John

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  • Hi.

    I'very come to the conclusion that Strava is aborting concerted efforts to integrate with Apple or it could be that Apple is making it difficult for developers to access the required data.

    After following this thread, I picked up that people were referring to Rungap. I'm not sure if it is available on an Android platform, but I installed it on my Iphone 8. I then cancelled my Strava Premium and uninstalled the strava app from my Apple Watch 2(AW2).

    So now I use the AW2 built in features. After I ran or exercised, I give the AW watch time to sync to phone, I open Rungap, refresh my activities and share my activities to endomondo and strava. ( This feature will cost you about 1 USD / month.)

    I find Rungap well supported and they have been swift on queries I've had.

    I'll patiently wait for Strava to get back on track or they will eventually loos the Apple watch crowd.

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