Filter Segment Leaderboard by bike type

This would allow segments to be filtered to view only results by bike type, thus separating mountain bike versus road bike segments results.

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  • This is actually a pretty important thing. I only have a MTB. And I am not getting any more motivated by cycling against the road bikes on the segments close to me. They are way faster. I don't stand a chance. Please fix this to!
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  • It is unfair when we compare the segment's times on Strava between MTB and Road bikes. Speed (Road) bikes will be always faster than MTB.

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  • there are a few threads calling for the same thing  why is this so hard for them to put in.. 

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  • Great feedback and thanks to everyone who has chimed in on the topic of filtering segments by bike type. 

    We have no current plans to address this, but there is an ongoing discussion around defining specific categories for road bikes and mountain bikes. This could make it easier to display the segment leaderboards by road biking and mountain biking respectively. 

    Related discussion here: https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/22802513-Mountain-Bike-as-separate-activity-type-or-tag

    Keep the comments coming! 

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  • I don't see enough of a difference between these two threads that collectively seems to be enough to get some traction. What's your point in directing us to a shorter thread where there is less discussion and will also probably result in no action from Strava???

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  • Hang on Elle.

    Please can you clarify your post?

    Do you mean you are looking at SUB types of Ride- (and any other activity) this would then cater for MTB and Road or Unicycle or Elliptical or whatever. Then you would have the data in the system for every activity. THEN it totally is trivial to filter leaderboards on activity subtype (or not - just use Ride for all bikes) AND this could then be used for clubs so you don't get data pollution from road rides in your MTB club etc.

    ONE solution which would fulfill everyone's needs and won't break your existing databases and interfaces (too much).

    Cheers

    Bill
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  • I think of it this way:

    If there is a segment, and you want to compete on it (for KOM, or for top 10, or top 100 - whatever), then you should pick the right "weapon" for the task.

    I.e. if it's a flat road segment - pick an aerodynamic time trial bike.
    If it's a road climb - ride your light road bike (and don't forget to put your lightest wheels and tires on).
    If it's a gnarly downhill trail - go with a DH bike, you will be faster than this way (compared to XC mountain bike).
    Etc.

    What I'm saying is - there are so many different bike types, much more than just "road" and "mountain". What if I ride a MTBike with slick road tires - does it count as a road or mountain? What if the only bike I have is a hybrid bike? Strava cannot have all these bike categories, and even if it does - the data won't be consistent, different people will call the same bike "road" and "offroad" because of the blurry lines between the bike types.

    Not that I'm against this feature - just trying to understand how it might work :)
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  • @Mikalai,

    For me it has nothing to do with going for KOMs.

    For me, I could compare how I performed on the same segment when I was on my road bike vs on my Mountain Bike vs on my Cyclocross Bike.

    It would also be great for comparing how I performed on my Cyclocross bike while riding on a mountain bike trail versus other people who had done the same. I don't want any special achievement like a KOM. I would just like to see how I do compared to my peers.

    At the moment you can already add your bike/gear and choose what type of bike it is. I don't see why we can't filter by these options that already exost in Strava. I understand there is a lot more bike types and these can be added to the existing options for bike type.
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  • Discussion on this has been going on for over 3 years now, somehow I think it isn't ever going to happen...

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  • @Tim,

    Aha, I see your point.
    The data wouldn't be 100% (or even 90%) accurate, but it'd give you a much better idea of how you compare to yourself on the same bike, or to others on *similar* bikes.

    And yes, seems reasonable to add "type" selector to bikes in Gear section with most commonly used options (road, mtb, cx... and maybe "other" for hybrids, exotic cruisers and such) and then filter leaderboards by the type.
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  • The most important thing Strava could do with proper sub activity types - for ride that means bike type - would be to use it to define what rides apply to a club. That way your MTB club isn't polluted by your members mileage and climbing on road bikes.
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  • @ Tim Rowe,

    I second your point.  There are trails we have where you can train on them with either a CX bike or a MTB.  It would be nice to be able to compare personal results as well as results compared to friends on the CX bike vs the MTB.

     

    Paul

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  • I don't really even care about sorting the leaderboards  by bike type, i'd just like to be able to narrow down my own rides so that I can see/compare progress on the same bike.  I have segments I ride on both my mountain bike and road bike and it makes it impossible to quickly tell if times were bad days on my road bike vs good days on my mountain bike.

     

     

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  • Bike type or at least bike weight.

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  • +1 

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  • I ride centuries on my fixie. It's my only bike i've got. I'd love to compare my rides and KOMs to other fixed gear riders. Multi-gear bike riders are cheaters! ;)

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  • This would also be useful for filtering e-bikes out of leaderboards. People should not have to mark their rides as private or flag them to avoid being entered on the leaderboards.

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  • What's the point of logging e-bike rides to Strava? Isn't it similar to logging motor-bike or car rides to Strava? I mean, Strava may decide to allow them, and then do more work to filter them out from the leaderborads.

    But I'd rather keep the motorized rides private, and let Strava spend the limited developer hours on something more useful :)

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  • Regardless of why people log e-bike rides, they are doing it and it would be nice to make it easy for them to not appear in the results without manually flagging each ride. If there were a checkbox in the gear setup to designate a bike as an e-bike then they could simply be excluded from the non-motor assisted leaderboards.

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  • I have seen on Strava there is now seperate activities for Ebikes and Vurtual Bikes.

    Thats a good start, hope people use them instead of setting their activities as a ride.
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  • Yes I think this is very important. Definite need of a single speed cat. 

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  • Fatbike too. These are faster during the winter (smoother conditions) so make that a summer/winter setting. .
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  • The main reason everyone wants a separation is to avoid that one category match on a segment of the other. It appends all the time on singletracks along a road or a road below a lift.

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  • I don't care if I can see other people's bikes or bike type (although avoiding confusion between adjacent road and dirt segments would be nice). I want to see which bike I was riding when looking at my own segment results. This shouldn't be too difficult. 

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  • In my opinion, this is the most important change to the next update of Strava. I agree with Doug:
     
    "So starting with just "road" and "mountain" separation is probably a good change".

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  • We need an entry for Fixed Gear as well. I do 95% of my riding on a 50x17 fixed gear. This is useful to separate fixies from the "Road" category, as it is often even harder to get a Strava segment on a hill without gears. KOM for the win with fixie!

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  • >> And not by a filter on the leaderbords....real different leaderboards per discipline!

    I do not agree. There must be a single leaderboard per segment across all bike types.

    If you want to have a KOM - you must pick the right "weapon" for the task, i.e. the most appropriate bike (e.g. recumbent bike in your case).

    The fact that recumbent bikes dominate segments in your country only means that the segments are better suited for recumbent bikes, and that is OK. You know, some other segments are better suited for and are dominated by road bikes, others are better suited for downhill bikes, etc etc.

    So, there must be a global leaderboard per segment. And filter by bike type would be a nice capability allowing to check how your effort compares to other people riding similar bikes.

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  • Hello, use a tool (bicycle) suitable for making a KOM is not possible for everyone. Not everyone can buy a bike of 12,000 euro. Not everyone can buy two bikes. So it's more just to know which type of bike was made that performance (segment).
    I would propose to make clear the type of bike related to the athlete who has achieved the performance (segment), maybe also applying a complex filter (for example, also on bike weight). Better still associate the KOM athletes MTB and the KOS (King of Street) to BDC athletes.
    Thanks..

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  • +1

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  • Should be great to have in the personal results, the possibility to show and/or filter the results by bike.
    I ride usually with two bikes and should be great if i can see witch one is faster in different situations.

     

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