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Manually add Training Load to activities for Fitness & Freshness graph

It would be very helpful to be able to add manual TSS estimates to rides. I live in a pretty brutal winter climate and don't risk bringing my crank-mounted power meter on some of the more snow-ridden, submerged, occasionally airborne training rides I do in the winter, so when I return from a 5 hour frostbitten epic I don't really have a good assessment of what the effect on my fatigue/fitness would be. It'd be handy to be able to punch in some kind of guess so I can better keep track of my fitness curves. Just a thought.

 

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  • I would really like to see this feature. I forgot my Garmin last weekend for a race and it ended up being a very hard race because of the wind etc... My fitness and freshness graph is way of now because of this and it is useless now for a few weeks. It's a pity because I was looking at it every few days and relating it to how I felt, where I was with my training and if I needed to rest.

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  • +1

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  • When my premium subscription to Strava ends in a few months I currently see not benefit in paying to use Strava. The only reason I paid for the premium service in the first place was for the power functionality, which I have now realised is practically useless. I'm currently using Golden Cheetah to properly analyse my power files and keep a track of fitness/freshness. If Strava up their game and include a few more of the necessary analysis tools they will capture the whole training with power market!
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  • Many thanks for adding your feedback to this discussion! Your voices are being heard and passed along to the Product team that is focusing on our premium features. Hopefully we'll see this picked up for development soon. Keep the comments coming! 

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  • +1

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  • Manual Training Load input is greatly needed to fully take advantage of the Fitness/Freshness chart. I used another program since 2010 and have always been able to manual input and estimate a score for a ride without power. I'm a big fan of utilizing this feature and tracking fitness this feature allows. I also like to get out and MTB 1/2x/wk and don't have power meter on it, only on the road bike. Really hope Strava adds this soon, would like to be able to just upload data to one place, for convienence sake. 

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  • If you don't have the option to add manual training load soon, I will have no more need for my premium account!

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  • Hey Strava people. How much longer is this gonna take to get manual entry?    It shouldn't be that hard.  The Performance Chart is ill conceived without the ability to enter as manual TSS for a workouts that I did on the spin bike at the hotel (which measures time and watts) . Or the rides I do on my other bikes.  Or even the rides I do without my Powertap because I had a flat and had to use my other wheel.  So again I ask, how long is it gonna take?  I like Strava and it would be my workout log of choice for sure, but this one item is a real limiter.   If its coming soon, great I'll hang out and wait.  Its a pain to export and import my last years workouts back to my other software.  But if the answer is "not any time soon"  I'll just use go back to SporTracks for now, and just use Strava to keep up with my friends.  Thanks.

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  •    Well said Jim Stevenson, I'm going to look into SporTracks in the meantime.

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  •    Well said Jim Stevenson, I'm going to look into SporTracks in the meantime.

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  • Agree with Jim and Sam.   I'm using TrainingPeaks for my real analysis and Strava for social stuff.  No good reason to keep the premium Strava account for just the social aspects.

    TrainingPeaks is worth investigating as well.

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  • +1.  I have to think this is pretty low hanging fruit, technically speaking.

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  • I NEED THAT FEATURE.. 

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  • +1. It is difficult to use the Fitness/Freshness graph properly without this feature. Especially as there is no r(un)TSS or s(wim)TSS on Strava. The graph doesn't reflect true workload as it's only for one sport. Granted Strava is primarily for cyclists, but I assume many cross train even if they're not triafaletes. Just for cycling, I need this feature as I only have a Powertap on my training wheels, not my aero go faster whizzy ones. Perhaps that's a mistake, but that's how it is. This feature would solve all those problems for me and those like me. As an ex programmer. I know this is pretty easy to do. It's just adding a field to a form as far as I can see. The entities and maths functions must all be there.

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  • +1. Phone wouldn't connect to my sensors for today's race (and I'm sure it will happen again!), but I would still like to log the ride in the fitness/freshness chart. I regretting the premium purchase when I could have gotten the feature from TrainingPeaks!

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  • +1

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  • I see that there are a number of threads of a similar theme that have been open for a while, as well as Strava themselves stating on the info section of the F&F graph that "in the future we hope to incorporate heart rate and other metrics to create a better picture of your fitness".

    Others have summarised why it is this would be a useful, nay essential, feature to make this useful, but the only back brief I can see from Strava is the comment above that "hopefully this will be picked up for development soon".

    How soon is 'soon'? It seems like a pretty simple fix and as many of us are paying for premium membership it would be nice at the very least to have some feedback of substance, either in the form of it actually being implemented (some hope) or at the very least a reasoned response as to WHY this is taking so long.

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  • I agree fully, without the ability to add manual TSS estimates for non-power rides, the fitness/freshenss it totally useless for me.  I'm now going back to spending more time with Golden Cheetah for the serious metrics and analysis, while strava is becoming just a social tool - which I can do without the premium account.  

    On the same note, if anyone is product development is watching - please don't implement a hardcoded TSS estimate taken from heart-rate only, or power estimates.  That would also me useless to me (and others, I suspect).  It is important that we're able to manually enter (or override) a TSS.

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  • This needs to be added or I'll need to cancel my premium. I have four bikes (tandem, mtb, cx, road) and only the road has a power meter. ???????
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  • Hey Strava. It's the springtime and summer is upon us. The majority of your paid subscribers are ramping up their training. Training load is a feature to help sharpen the sword and make us all stronger, faster, and healthier. Now you, Strava, are always encouraging us paid subscribers to gun for those KOMs or sign-up for one of your challenges. It's time to change the tide for a minute. Speaking on behalf of all the paid members who have taken their time to post here, and for those who are struggling without manual loading abilities, we are issuing a challenge directly to you. Or maybe we will call it the "Manual Training Load KOM". We are staring right at you Strava and waiting to see what you got. Can you take the KOM on this challenge or are you going to wait for the summer to slide by. I hope not, because the surest way for all of us to put a sharp edge on our knives and go for those KOMs is to manually add our estimated training load numbers when needed. We need you to come through on this KOM. Go get 'em!

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  • +1 ride road (with powertap), plus a couple MTBs (no power).   would be great to add manual training load for rides without power meter (and for rides where garmin decided to "forget" my data.

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  • +1

    I made a very similar request, see https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/25549064

    I can't believe we are still waiting for the Strava team to fix this flaw that renders a key feature unusable. This is easy guys, PLEASE fix this bug ASAP.

     

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  • Hi Elle, any update on this for us?

     

    Thanks!

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  • Trainingpeaks manages as good hrTSS figure (similar to Sufferscore I guess).

    As a premium user I'd really like to have a guide of TSS/hrTSS for rides and weeks (displayed in the Training area of Strava).

    Thanks for all your good work.

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  • +1

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  • @Gary - nothing new to report, though I'm pushing this request from my end internally! Be sure to share this with your friends and get them to vote. 

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  • Another Vote for manually adding TSS. My powertap is part of a training wheel set up and don't use it for racing all the time so this data is not placed into the fittness/form manager. Make it a priority please!

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  • One more vote.  Actually, feel free to log my vote as a complaint.  As in it's absurd that I can't do this.  

    I mean, really, we're probably talking like just a handful of lines of code.  It'd take one of your dudes (I'm using the term as a gender-neutral) like half a day.  If that.

    The thing that Strava gets right (the really lovely thing about Strava) is that it's pretty.  User friendly.  I actually _like_ being on this website.  It pleases my aesthetic sensibilities.  It just _feels_ good.  But the thing that Strava really gets wrong is that it sacrifices functionality for form.  Some people want that functionality.  And as Strava tries to become more and more my one-stop training companion, its gotta fix that functionality part.  Really.

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  • Yet another vote. This is a much needed addition.

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  • We NEEEED this!  Fitness/Freshness is worthless without this feature.  I don't run a power meter on every bike, and the missing data makes the graphs have no value.

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