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Manually add Training Load to activities for Fitness & Freshness graph

It would be very helpful to be able to add manual TSS estimates to rides. I live in a pretty brutal winter climate and don't risk bringing my crank-mounted power meter on some of the more snow-ridden, submerged, occasionally airborne training rides I do in the winter, so when I return from a 5 hour frostbitten epic I don't really have a good assessment of what the effect on my fatigue/fitness would be. It'd be handy to be able to punch in some kind of guess so I can better keep track of my fitness curves. Just a thought.

 

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  • +1. While you're at it, please provide an option to see weekly total training load (like you have for distance or time) so we don't have to keep adding it up manually. Would be very easy I'm sure. From a training point of view it's much more important to see cumulative training stress than raw distance/time. Tony
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  • Crazy this hasn't been done yet, surely quite a simple chance that is available on GC/Training Peaks etc

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  • Today the battery of my power meter went down in the middle of the ride. It'd be great to be able to manually edit the Training load.

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  • +1 
    Come on - this is a really quick win for you guys!

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  • Training Stress Score is a registered trademark of Peaksware, LCC. I assume there is some legal wrangling to sort out? I hope Strava can find a way.

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  • Yes!  I recently had an issue with my powertap that cost me 3 weeks of power data.  Now the F&F graph will be way off for weeks to come.  I fI could have manually entered an estimated training load for each non-powertap workout the problem would have been solved.

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  • +1.

    I let my Premium subscription expire almost solely because of this missing feature (I train on my mtb and road bike).  The F&F graph becomes a toy without HR data...

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  • Please add my vote too.

    This is something TP has and that is really useful when you ride w/o power.

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  • Hey Elle.

    Any sign of an update on this please? Winter is coming (Game of Thrones quote) and the winter bikes (minus power meters) will be making an appearance.

    Seems like a pointless tool if i can only log my performance for half of the year.

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  • Add it please!  I workout at lunch often and no power meter at gym but wattage measure on expresso bike.

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  • I would also like to see this feature implemented soon! Any news on when it might be done? My power meter have been broken for a week and it totally messes up my fitness and freshness graph!

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  • Premium subscription cancelled on the basis that it's pointless without this feature. Pull your fingers out Strava, I'll re-subscribe when this is fixed.
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  • Does Strava actually monitor these requests?  Nothing has happened and no feedback on what should be a relatively simple change.  Maybe cancelling Premium subscription is the only way to get action.

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  • I would have to agree with all of you.  If Strava does not add this feature before my Premium subscription ends in a few months, I will NOT be renewing!  I hope someone at Strava is listening!

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  • I suppose the times where Strava was committed to be a training tool for cyclists with competitive aspirations is a thing of the past. I'd really like to hear what their big goals are and what clientele they want to cater to going forward. From my perspective Strava no longer spends time on long overdue enhancements of some key features that never got past the bare bones implementation, while at the same time they commit resources to data mining projects like heat maps that have very little direct value for the individual cyclist, but may well be a great source for additional revenue. Revenue is important and it's great that Strava finds ways to benefit from their vast body of ride data. But I'm missing the clear sense of direction and mission. If small improvements or bug fixes take a year or longer to get implemented, or don't ever see the light of day, it looks to me the time for Stroogle, Cyycle, or whatever it's name will be has come. Holger
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  • For all of you that have had the same problem as me, I've moved to Cycling Analytics.  It allows manual entry for your daily TSS so you can keep your workload chart current.   I still use Strava to share rides with friends but no longer have any need for a premium version.  Of course, they have you hogtied, because if you subscribed via your iphone app, they tell you they can't give you a refund and that you have to go through Apple.  What a hassle so I'll just let it run out and not renew, so they know they got my money for the year. 

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  • I will also stop the premium subscription if a solution isn't created by the end of the year. This is really pretty ridiculous. I did the whole Rapha Rising challenge on my MTB, and as a result, it shows me as taking a week off.

    Amazing that no one on their staff has commented.
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  • I've had cause for this on several occasions where I didn't have power data, such as battery failure, lost magnet, different bike, etc.  In most cases I could take a good guess on training load based on previous rides.

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  • I see that the TRIMP based training load is planned (thanks for the link tony m).  That's a good step.  However it really isn't a replacement for this request.  All we really want is to be able to override calculated training load - which might be '0' if no power meter, or might be out of whack if the PM messed up.  Likewise, I'll be happy to use TRIMP for training load if riding without PM, but I want to be able to override it if the TRIMP doesn't seem reasonable.  Furthermore, I don't always race with a HRM (cyclocross in particular), so I'll still have rides with '0' training load.  PLEASE just let us override the calculated training load!!

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  • 100% agree with Rich, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ...

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  • Its only been a year since this thread was started.  This was something that could have been added in one day.  Honestly, I would have canceled my premium subscription long ago until they got it implemented, but when you try to cancel, they pass the buck and say I have to go through Apple since I purchased my Strava premium subscription through the Apple app.  That's a bunch of nonsense because they know its not worth the hassle.  So I'll just let my premium account end when it ends and consider myself ripped off for ten bucks.  Its not the ten bucks that's really the issue.  Its just all the hassle and unresponsiveness that is unforgivable. Oh well, live  and learn. 

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  • I gave up waiting for this simple innovation. My form and fitness graph is rendered useless whenever I hop on the MTB, with no power. I let my subscription run out and have switched to Cycling Analytics.

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  • Dear Strava, please can you us a brief explanation why this simple feature is not available to power meter users who pay for the dubious privilege of having a premium account? The only reason people on this thread have a premium account is for the fitness/freshness feature that is rendered completely useless if you occasionally train on a different bike or do gym work. I am already successfully using Golden Cheetah that lets me manually adjust training load for free. Power meter users have paid a lot of money on equipment to analyse their performance. Unfortunately Strava is not fit for this purpose. My annual subscription ends soon and I have no intention of renewing. I will continue to use Strava only the free segment features. I'm very disappointment in the lack of official comment on this matter.
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  • Yes, the "training load using HR (i.e. TRIMP)" feature does appear to be live, thanks tony m.  At first I didn't know what you meant, because you can't actually see the calculated TRIMP on the activity's page (which is more than a little annoying).  However I now see that most of my activities actually do have training loads associated with them on the Fitness & Freshness page.  This is a good first step, but as already mentioned by me and others, I have lots of rides (and reasons) that I don't use an HRM for, and I really need to be able to manually enter training load, if Fitness & Freshness is going to be of any use at all.

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  • Hi Rich, yes it would be good to see "TRIMP" in activity plus being able to manually edit.  However my Fitness & Freshness graph is a lot more usable now.  I always wear HR monitor on my rides it is just a other  couple of other activities each week where I cannot wear it that are not accounted for.

    I do not understand why no-one from Strava comments on this request.

     

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  • Thanks for picking up on the change! The recent change with the Fitness & Freshness graph relates to this Feature Suggestion: 

    https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/25740155

    Now you can see your heart rate estimated TSS along with the power meter data. Or, you can separate the data using the menu at the top of the graph:

    http://app.strava.com/athlete/fitness

    I'm going to leave this feature suggestion as is, as we still have not developed the specific feature to manually enter a TSS score. However, if you have feedback for how the heart rate estimation works, or questions, please refer to the link above. 

     

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  • Apologies, the release I mentioned above seems to have been delayed to the end of this week or next! 

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  • It appears that the menu to separate the data source is now live.

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