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Manually add Training Load to activities for Fitness & Freshness graph

It would be very helpful to be able to add manual TSS estimates to rides. I live in a pretty brutal winter climate and don't risk bringing my crank-mounted power meter on some of the more snow-ridden, submerged, occasionally airborne training rides I do in the winter, so when I return from a 5 hour frostbitten epic I don't really have a good assessment of what the effect on my fatigue/fitness would be. It'd be handy to be able to punch in some kind of guess so I can better keep track of my fitness curves. Just a thought.

 

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  • I find that the Heart rate score gets fairly close to the TSS from the power meter and would certainly do the job of keeping the PMC up to date for the days a power meter is not used.

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  • @Sean, that might work for shorter higher intensity activities but longer endurance activities usually have a 2x TSS over suffer score in my dashboard.
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  • Yea thats true, I just checked a particularly hard ride which had a Training load of 260 vs a suffer score of 187 based on my FTP of 360. But still im in the camp of its good to have something to let the PMC know your working, be it manual input of suffer score..

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  • Yep. Me too. I do occasional MTB rides, where I rent a mountain bike - no power meter. Powermeters run out of batteries / dont work more often than I'd like. Plus I had to send my power meter away for a month to get serviced. Hence I have a big hole in my fitness /freshness graph that renders it pretty useless.

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  • +1 2 bikes one power meter - dont want to change it all the time, know what my tss is for my commute If you added this I wouldn't need to use any other tool, but because you don't have it, it means I have to use other tools even though their UX sucks. This undermines your marketing strategy so get your product manager to move it up his or her backlog :)
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  • there are good methods for estimating tss using heart rate.  when i work out in the gym on a spin bike, i can record my heart rate but not the power output.  an estimate would put me much closer to my actual fatigue/ fitness levels.  as things are -- it just looks like i have mutliple days in a row with no training when in fact my gym sessions are some of the most intense rides that I do.

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  • Is there any real chance of this happening? I broke my rear wheel (w/ powertap) so have no power data for the last 1.5 weeks until it was fixed. Would be great to be able to manually add the TSS so that the fitness/freshness graph was accurate.

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  • This is such an obvious missing feature - please Strava, add this functionality ASAP!

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  • This really needs to be added - otherwise the Fitness & Freshness graph is useless, and there's less incentive to be a Premium user since I'll just use other software/tools for that, like others have said. 

    (I have one power meter, and multiple bikes. Plenty of rides on studded tires this winter especially, but no power measurements there.)

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  • +1 would like to keep the freshness fitness graph up to date when I can't use my bike with the power meter

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  • +1

    Once in a while I take the mountainbike for a ride.
    This is a training as well, now it seems like a took a day off.

    For this fitness and freshness feature to be usefull, you should be able to record every effort on a bike , not 'sort of' or 'almost'.

    If you've bought a power meter, you won't take 'sort of' for granted.

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  • +1

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  • Count me in. Would be nice to see suffer score used for this. https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/25740155-Fitness-and-Freshness-for-Sufferscore

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  • Same issue here.  I would love to have my running workouts and my MTB rides included so that the Fitness & Freshness scores account for those as well.

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  • I would really like to see this feature. I forgot my Garmin last weekend for a race and it ended up being a very hard race because of the wind etc... My fitness and freshness graph is way of now because of this and it is useless now for a few weeks. It's a pity because I was looking at it every few days and relating it to how I felt, where I was with my training and if I needed to rest.

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  • +1

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  • When my premium subscription to Strava ends in a few months I currently see not benefit in paying to use Strava. The only reason I paid for the premium service in the first place was for the power functionality, which I have now realised is practically useless. I'm currently using Golden Cheetah to properly analyse my power files and keep a track of fitness/freshness. If Strava up their game and include a few more of the necessary analysis tools they will capture the whole training with power market!
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  • Many thanks for adding your feedback to this discussion! Your voices are being heard and passed along to the Product team that is focusing on our premium features. Hopefully we'll see this picked up for development soon. Keep the comments coming! 

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  • +1

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  • Manual Training Load input is greatly needed to fully take advantage of the Fitness/Freshness chart. I used another program since 2010 and have always been able to manual input and estimate a score for a ride without power. I'm a big fan of utilizing this feature and tracking fitness this feature allows. I also like to get out and MTB 1/2x/wk and don't have power meter on it, only on the road bike. Really hope Strava adds this soon, would like to be able to just upload data to one place, for convienence sake. 

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  • If you don't have the option to add manual training load soon, I will have no more need for my premium account!

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  • Hey Strava people. How much longer is this gonna take to get manual entry?    It shouldn't be that hard.  The Performance Chart is ill conceived without the ability to enter as manual TSS for a workouts that I did on the spin bike at the hotel (which measures time and watts) . Or the rides I do on my other bikes.  Or even the rides I do without my Powertap because I had a flat and had to use my other wheel.  So again I ask, how long is it gonna take?  I like Strava and it would be my workout log of choice for sure, but this one item is a real limiter.   If its coming soon, great I'll hang out and wait.  Its a pain to export and import my last years workouts back to my other software.  But if the answer is "not any time soon"  I'll just use go back to SporTracks for now, and just use Strava to keep up with my friends.  Thanks.

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  •    Well said Jim Stevenson, I'm going to look into SporTracks in the meantime.

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  •    Well said Jim Stevenson, I'm going to look into SporTracks in the meantime.

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  • Agree with Jim and Sam.   I'm using TrainingPeaks for my real analysis and Strava for social stuff.  No good reason to keep the premium Strava account for just the social aspects.

    TrainingPeaks is worth investigating as well.

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  • +1.  I have to think this is pretty low hanging fruit, technically speaking.

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  • I NEED THAT FEATURE.. 

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  • +1. It is difficult to use the Fitness/Freshness graph properly without this feature. Especially as there is no r(un)TSS or s(wim)TSS on Strava. The graph doesn't reflect true workload as it's only for one sport. Granted Strava is primarily for cyclists, but I assume many cross train even if they're not triafaletes. Just for cycling, I need this feature as I only have a Powertap on my training wheels, not my aero go faster whizzy ones. Perhaps that's a mistake, but that's how it is. This feature would solve all those problems for me and those like me. As an ex programmer. I know this is pretty easy to do. It's just adding a field to a form as far as I can see. The entities and maths functions must all be there.

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