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Create Age Groups in 5 year brackets for Segment Leaderboard Filters

I just joined premium to see whre I stood in my age group but 10 year age groups is no use.

this function would be more beneficial if age groups were in 5 year age brackets to reflect state national and international age groups

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  • Very disappointing that progress on this seems to have stalled... We Premium (mostly Senior,  I guess)  Subscribers might need to consider cancelling our subscriptions or at least not renewing...

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  • I decided some months ago to let my Premium membership expire. I'm about to turn 72, and I've waited four years for Strava to make the change to 5-year age groups. Instead, they keep fooling us with hollow promises. My conclusion is that Strava shares society's prejudices against older people. Why should we pay extra for that?

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  • For the life of me, I don't understand why everyone in the elder age group wants more age breakdowns for those over 65.  What everyone should be clamoring for are a couple of things.  The first is one that we have very little control over: Get more people our age to start riding. Unless there are more riders added to the elder group against which to compare, very little is going to be realized even if Strava does make more breakdowns.

    I'm 79 y.o. and as it is now, for almost all my rides, I have to go down to the 55-64 age group...there are just not that many riders over 65 riding, let alone over 70, 75, or 80.  More groups is not going to do much for us.  Check it out...see for yourself.  I do know there are pockets of riders in some areas where there are a larger number of older riders, but not for most of the country.

    The second thing and the one thing that would, IMO, help us would be adding the rider's age to the stats.  I know there are some riders who will "fudge," i.e., lie about their age, but most of us want to get realistic numbers for comparison.

    At my age of 79 (started riding at age 70), for the most part I can only ride against myself.  When I take the time to look at the below 65 groups, it is very gratifying to see how I compare with them...but am I looking at a 55 y.o. or a 60 y.o. or 64...showing the age would greatly facilitate better comparisons.

    Please, Strava, post ages...if not, at least tell me why you can't or won't.

    Thanks,

    L. Steve Varnum

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  • Maybe there are very few bicyclists over 70 years old, but that is not the case for runners. In a recent local road race with only 355 runners, 14 runners were over age 70. Another 24 were between 65 and 70. More than 10% of the runners in this small race were over Strava's age 65 limit for distinguishing performance. I'm betting 65+ year-old runners are just as numerous elsewhere. In fact, the large races I've been in have huge contingents of them, more than 25 usually in my age group (70-75) alone. These days I only enter races that recognize 5-year age groups through age 85. Elder runners deserve this recognition, just as everybody else does. But instead Strava insists on providing Facebooky things like my year in review. We older runners want our performances to reflect competitive goals, not cute automated animations. We would support Strava for age-appropriate recognition, just as we support road races that provide it.

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  • Come-on Strava its 2017 and still no progress of fair represent representation of a significant proportion of your members.

    If creating 5 year age groups for all is too difficult at least you could extend the current 10 year range with 5 year periods for the "below 24" and "above 65" so that the age categories fairly represent the more rapidly changing physical attributes of both younger and the ever increasing group of older Stravaites.

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  • I made the original request for 5 year age groups way back in August of 2014; 2 1/2 years ago.

    It would be really nice if the Strava team could share with us why, what we see as a pretty minor fix, never makes the features roadmap.

    My racing age is now 73 and I'll be competing in the Masters World Track Cycling Championships here in LA this coming October. It really would be useful to be able to compare myself to the men riding in my 5-year age group.

    So, come clean. What's the real reason Strava isn't doing this:-) ????

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  • Jim, you make an excellent point...having never been a runner (and actually started cycling at 70), I wasn't aware of the runners over 70.  Certainly with that many runners, there definitely should be additional age groups.

    I hasten to add that identifying the age of a rider/runner would help in our comparisons.  It's a fact that as the years go by, each year (not each five years) presents greater challenge.  With ages showing for users, it would allow us to compare within age groups, i.e., comparing a 79 y.o. with a 75 y.o. Believe me, there is a pronounced difference. 

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  • I too, do not understand why this is taking so long. Age groups is why I signed up for premium, but 10-years is too long, and older groups are needed.  5-year age groups please.  Then add Age group PR and KOM.

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  • Very disappointed to hear that this has been delayed again. 

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  • I would join premium in a minute if 5 year age groups were offered for age groups over 60.  I will never join if it remains as it is because it has very limited value.  I'm a 72 year old rider  and it does matter!

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  • Why isn't Strava's refusal to add 5-year age groups beyond 65 years simply age discrimination?

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  • Bill, even if it is considered to be age discrimination, the discrimination laws cover only ages 40 - 65. :-)  So I guess Strava is safe.  Just a little humor...for an unfunny subject.

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  • Bill - in my opinion it is. Made the same point re age discrimination earlier - maybe the discrimination laws apply to employment only in Strava's home country, not to clients or general population unlike more socially advanced countries ;-). Strava, in my opinion, does not value and deliberately discriminates against older clients. In my other "online social media existence" I am making sure that I indicate that, in my opinion, Strava is a discriminating and age biased organization. Surprising the number of over 50's people that refuse to consider Strava and choose other programs once the age bracket system is pointed out and their non-action on the issue. Why am I still in it - it allows me to be compare training rides over time, but I can still hold them in contempt. But it is getting harder to ignore their clear contempt for older runners, swimmers and cyclists. Maybe more of us should comment here and elsewhere if we perceive them as being discriminatory.

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  • Elle has announced that Strava is working on implementing 5-year age groups in 2017. I hope this is still the case. Elle, can you provide some reassurance for us?

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  • I wasn't suggesting that this discrimination was the basis for a civil rights suit, especially in this political climate. And, besides the Commission on Civil Rights has more important things to address. But it certainly would be good fodder for Bicycling magazine or Runner's World. Cheers all.

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  • Maybe Elle's just tired of being the Strava equivalent of a certain press secretary. You can only distort reality for so long. 

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  • Q: How many Strava support staff does it take to change a light bulb?

    A: Two, one to hold the ladder and one to put it on the shelf to keep Strava premium users in the dark.

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  • Hi Elle. Maybe we're being unreasonable about this 5 year age category thing? Is there a place where Strava lists the projects they actually are working on? Maybe they are higher value - to your paying customers - projects.  Do you have more than one programmer:-)? If not, I have a great team in India that could help!!

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  • Add my name to the request for Strava to add additional age splits above 65+. Certainly in southern England there are enough 'senior' riders to justify and encourage a more accurate comparison of peer performance.

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  • Forgot to add....seem to be doing that more frequently!

    My own thought was to simply add an additional age group of 65-75 and then 75+.  

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  • 65 plus is too big a range particularly as performance reduces with age- suggest 65- 75 the 75-80 continuing in 5yr gaps.

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  • Somehow I think we have no chance that the Strava people are even reading these posts let alone doing anything about them. If you haven't already, see the litany of complaints on another thread about a Strava 'feature' that no one asked for and seems no one has time for or likes > https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/115000086764-Feedback-for-the-updated-Strava-feed?page=15#community_comment_115000309384. Strava appears to be descending into the realms of a social website like Facebook (Instagram?) - something I suspect the vast majority will dislike as they prefer a 'training related' focus. The reason for this could be their new CEO James Quarles - see http://www.adweek.com/digital/qa-instagram-exec-james-quarles-plans-to-turn-strava-into-a-social-publisher-for-athletes  Wonder if they got the wrong type of person for this sites purpose. I find his quoted comment laughable “Community first is a principal of Instagram, and I think it’s how the whole Strava team have operated in that you look for experiences where content and production from the community increases the value of it” (emphasis added). Implement the request for 5 year age brackets or lose more of us.

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  • We don't plan to implement age categories every 5 years across the board, but we do have plans to add more age categories on the ends, both below 25 and over 65 years old. Follow this related discussion for updates. 

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  • Honestly, it can't be that hard to implement the 5 year age groups. I presume it's because there aren't enough 65+ athletes to bother with. It would be interesting to see the demographic breakdown of Strava users. Maybe MapMyRide or RidewithGPS would take up the task?

     

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  • 5 year age bands is pretty standard for masters/seniors whatever you call it for your sport, in UK swimming its the zero to the 4 and 5 to 9 so e.g. 40-44 then 45-49

    I was considering premium which is how I found this thread, I won't be bothering till this is implemented.

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  • The cardiovascular difference between 55 and 64 is big. I too will wait until more precise age groupings are implemented (every 5 years after age 50) before going premium . . . Strava: DO IT!

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  • Still waiting - The new interface is nice, but I would much rather have  5-year age groups and extended to all ages.  

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  • I've lost patience, given up and cancelled my subscription...

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  • I note no 60-64 group still - can you please tell me why not? Also, the premium leaderboards seem to have got messed up - the position on the segment does not reflect the actual position e.g shows me 88th but when I drill down I am first out of 4 people. Can you please investigate and correct

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  • @j mcd, 

    Yes, there is a bug when viewing filtered leaderboards on the mobile app only. We are fixing the issue asap. The ranking you are seeing on the activity page may not match your ranking when you click further into the segment leaderboard when viewing for your Age or Weight class. 

    We carefully researched the new age groups and it was decided not to change our existing groups but instead, add more to either end. Sorry we weren't able to accommodate a 60-64 group. 

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