Apple Watch Heart Rate, and Wahoo Cadence

Hey all,

So until today I recorded all my rides using the Strava apple watch app so that I got heart rate info, but now I've bought a Wahoo Cadence sensor too.

I can't connect the sensor to the watch so I need to use the main iPhone app instead, but this means I don't get heart rate information.

Can the Strava iPhone app not just pull the heart rate information in from Health Kit? That's why it's doing anyway when recording using the watch app, so why not do also for the main app?

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  • There are so many threads in this and yet Strava ignores them all. There is simply no reason that a ride recorded on the phone cannot include HR data recorded on the watch. A bunch of other apps do it. it’s not just possible - it’s a basic and expected functionality.

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  • Completely agree.

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  • Oh wow.  Was just looking for advice about how to setup the watch and a cadence sensor and now I am wondering what on earth to do.  It never occurred to me they would not work together

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  • Strava stopped allowing the iPhone app to read Heart Rate data from the watch. You have to decide between Phone+Sensors or Watch+HR. It's absolutely ridiculous and the company doesn't seem to be responsive to the hundreds of posts about this. There are a number of other threads you'll find on here complaining about this. I am trying Cyclemeter today which can do everything.

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  • Hi,

    As I said, it's a workaround - not a solution. It does the job for me and may be useful to others here who cycle a couple of times a week.

    Sharing information like this is the purpose of these communities. If this is not a suitable workaround for you then take it up with Strava, not other users.

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  • There’s a free iOS app called “HeartCast” that lets you broadcast your heart rate to your bike computer/strava.

    https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/heartcast-heart-rate-monitor/id1499771124

    I’ve got it working on my Wahoo Elemnt Bolt. After pairing you may have to restart your Wahoo for the HR to show up.

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  • This is ridiculous... maybe i need to look around before my trial membership expires...

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  • @Scott, if this wasn’t a user community, they wouldn’t allow user comments, it would just be a support ticket. The top link is literally labeled community. Paul’s comment has definitely helped users seeking a solution or workaround. It’s a bit too involved for my schedule, but I’m not going to complain about someone who’s helping others. And no, Strava isn’t going to see his post and call it a day. For bugs and features their consideration is development time and impact on their revenue. From your criticism of the workaround only being for less serious cyclists, it’s clear this workaround has little impact on their revenue.

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  • Agreed. 

    MapMyRide automatically synchronize the watchOS app when we start tracking on the mobile app, the heart rate (monitored by the Apple watch) and the cadence sensor (monitored by the mobile phone) can be recorded.

     

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  • Yes I’m also using Cyclemeter now as I started using the Wahoo Cadence Sensor and using the Apple Watch for HR data. I‘m uploading it afterwards to Strava automatically but it would be nice if I could use just Strava to record my rides.

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  • Mine worked today!! It really does take the 10 seconds connect. Make sure screen is on on the phone. I had to forget the computer and repair it, but finally go it!

    Ah, okay. Sounds like it may be a problem during the set up.

    HeartCast on the iPhone manages the Bluetooth connection. It's important that HeartCast is open and visible on your iPhone while connecting. Give it ten seconds or so to synchronize the heart rate number on your iPhone and Wahoo before allowing the iPhone to close/sleep. Once the numbers match and are changing you can let the iPhone sync.

    Let me know if you've already tried this. There's some additional info here, but not sure if it will be relevant: https://help.heartcast.app/

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  • This appears to still be a problem.  

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  • ...what?
    I am a fan of gotoes.org for many reasons, but if you consider doing the above for every single ride to be a “perfect” solution then you either don’t ride very often or you are Strava’s ideal customer (i.e. one who who is willing to pay despite having to do the work themselves)... I can’t imagine doing that every morning. If for no other reason then I would have to open up my laptop instead of just looking at the data on my phone.

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  • Wow, i thought i was just tech challenged when i couldn't get my wahoo blue sc c7cd bike sensor and my Apple watch to both upload to Strava so i could have all data there.  Now I'm glad it wasn't me but sad it doesn't seem like Starva fixed this.

    It sucks that when I ride i have to strap on a Wahoo heart monitor around my chest and have my watch on.  Also, Wahoo app has locked up on me twice this week so i lost the ride data.  Today, i activated Strava on my watch as a back up so i got all but cadence data.  Luckily, Wahoo app did not lock up today so I was able to push Wahoo data to Strava and have my ride, speed, cadence, HR, etc.

    Did anyone find the answer? 

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  • agree, 

    Can the Strava iPhone app not just pull the heart rate information in from Health Kit? That's why it's doing anyway when recording using the watch app, so why not do also for the main app

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  • I tried HeartCast. My Roam shows it’s paired, but the BPM field still shows “n/a”. I did restart the Wahoo. Am I missing something?

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  • did anybody try out "heartbeatz"?
    Youtube video shows a very easy way how to connect then apple watch with wahoo bpm.

     

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  • Been trying this all afternoon with HeartCast but can’t seem to get it to work. Ive tried restarting the Wahoo unit multiple times. It picks up the heart rate sensor in the “sensors” field, with full bars. But the actual HR does not show up, only “n/a”.

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  • Jamal Sadik make sure the HeartCast app is open on your phone and watch before pressing start on your watch. Wait for your heart rate to show up on your device before putting the apps in background.

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  • I started a new feed about this today as didn’t realise it was a wide spread issue and I was looking for help. I thought I was doing something wrong.
    If I record my ride on the Strava app by starting the app on my Apple watch the heart data is sent to the iPhone Strava app and their Website, but if a start the app on my phone. No data pulled off my watch, it’s weird, then can clearly talk to each but only in one direction. I reported it to Strava, and the basically told be to turn it off and back on again. If sure the techies shoulders were bouncing as they were typing it.

    The work around my work, but it sounds a bit of a faff, and I don’t want to disrespect the person who found, but surly Strava can sort this.

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  • Marco Beltempo sorry I'm still a little confused regarding the sequence of events for first-time setup for HeartCast + Elemnt Bolt. From my understanding of the above discussion, the sequence is this (please correct me if I'm wrong):

    1. Open HeartCast on iPhone; once it is open, pull it up on the apple watch and hit "Start"

    2. Turn on Elemnt Bolt, go to "sensors", and add the HR sensor (HeartCast)

    3. Wait 10 or so seconds for the HR to show up on the Bolt

    4. Restart Bolt if not working, and it should work

    I've tried the above, btw, and still no luck. Will give it another go today after work and edit this comment with updates.

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  • I had a brainwave this morning that I’m going to use as a workaround for the connectivity issues between Apple Watch and IPhone. I’m going to start recording my rides on both my phone and watch apps, then after the ride not save the data from the phone, only save the data from my watch.

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  • Unbelievable! I thought I was the problem. It didn't even occur to me these apps wouldn't play nicely together.

    I've therefore decided to use Cyclemeter (just downloaded it) and seems to support heart rate and cadence and speed sensors from Wahoo. My first ride is in an hour's time. If it works I'm cancelling my Strava subscription (which I've only just signed up for).

     

     

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  • Jamal Sadik It's VERY fussy! The sequence I use is as follows:

    1) Start up Heartcast on Watch

    2) Start up Heartcast on iPhone

    3) Wait for iPhone to show heart rate

    4) ONLY NOW start up the Element Bolt

    5) Once started give it about a minute to start showing heart rate (you'll know if it's going to work once the Bluetooth icon on the HeartCast iPhone app, bottom left, turns green) You DO have to wait some seconds for this.

    If after a minute it hasn't worked then try the sequence again (it usually does work though)

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  • So I found the perfect setup; for me anyway.. Now I can even leave my iPhone at home! Hope this helps:

    If you have: iPhone, apple watch, Heartbeatz sensor ($40 North Pole Engineering), Wahoo computer. Bonus: Airpods and a cellular plan for your apple watch.

    Apps: Heartbeatz app, Wahoo Elemnt app, Strava. Bonus: My fitness pal (for calories burned)

    1. Start the heartbeatz app on your watch. After a few seconds it picks up the HR from the watch. 

    2. Add the Heartbeatz sensor to the elemnt computer. It will pick up the HR from the Heartbeatz app every time after that. The Elemnt will calculate calories automatically.

    3. After your ride the Elemnt will sync to strava with HR, calories, and cadence (I have the Wahoo cadence sensor paired with the Elemnt). 

    4. Strava will sync with apple health on your phone if set up to, and also send the calories to my fitness pal. 

    NOTE: This can all tie in with Apple health, so to avoid redundancy (double workout entries in Health or Activity, or calories burned in MFP) pay attention to read/write and privacy permissions:

    Heartbeats app: read and write. The Heartbeats app can be a stand-alone workout app, so at the end of your workout DISCARD the workout, do not save or it will double up in the Apple health app. You only want it to transmit to the Elemnt during your ride, which it does well. 

    Elemnt app: only share to strava. No need to read anything except your sensors.

    Strava app: read and write with Apple health, MFP, Facebook if you want. 

    Wahoo says you can only get phone, text and email notifications if you have your phone. If you have a cellular plan for your watch guess what? You get notifications on your Elemnt from your watch. Here's where the airpods come in. Take your call from your watch, dictate a text, or choose "do not disturb" from the Elemnt app.. ENJOY!   and don't get me started on the garmin radar, IT IS AWESOME! Hasn't failed me yet, but I still glance over my shoulder just in case..

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  • (*I thought of a better way at the bottom)

    So I have a perfect workaround for this that I've been using. This might seem like alot of hassle but it actually only takes two minutes once you're familiar. You'll need the HealthFit app from the app store.

    1) Start a ride on Strava, connect up the sensors here.

    2) Start a regular outdoor cycle on Apple Watch's native activity app.

    3) Go for your ride.

    4) Finish ride and let Strava upload as usual, and end the watch activity as usual.

    5) Using Stravas website: Go to your workout, export the GPX file using the options dots on the left.

    6) Using the HealthFit app: Select the workout, tap the option dots, share as GPX file and email to yourself.

    7) http://gotoes.org/strava/ and upload both files. Continue to next page using the button at the top.

    8) Combine GPS, Cadence, Speed from Strava file, and only heart rate from watch file.

    9) Process the time and let it upload to Strava. Done!

     

    Optional 10) On Stravas website deleted the original cycle, then on the new combined upload go to options and select 'Refresh Activity Achievements'. This makes sure you keep all your achievements, best times etc.

     

    * Use Strava app on both phone and Watch, this will create two activities for the same workout. Then on the Strava website export the GPX file for both activities and merge those using gotoes. Faster rather than all that Healthfit and e-mail stuff.

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  • I am taking it up with Strava, in that comment and my other one above... this forum is a Strava support page, I hadn’t really thought of it as a user community... to my knowledge this is the only means Strava provides for taking up issues with them, and any comment which send to them the message “we have a workaround, no need to prioritize this issue” is antithetical to the page’s purpose and directly counter to my own purpose for being here. :/

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  • I consider to buy a cadence and heart rate (e.g. via watch) sensor. I am using my iPhone with Strava app while racing. Can someone recommend the best sensors to have live figures in the Strava app (and of course easy upload analysis afterwards)? Appreciate it.

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