Achievements: personal records, top 10, XOMs, best efforts, etc.

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  • @Tantetan B. - I just posted requesting something similar. I was nearly killed riding. My 12 years of data I want to keep but want to see how I am improving. Maybe we’ll get someone at Strava to consider it. Good luck on your return!

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  • Hi Amanda P.: If would strongly agree with you if she is harassed by bad comments in this regard. But the flagging I don't see as bullying as in sports born men mostly have clear advantages in muscle mass than born women and they have that advantage still years after the transition. Of course something has to be done so your friend can carry on competing in leaderboards. But that shouldn't be in the protected leaderboards for born women as that would by highly unfair. I don't have any other suggestion than Strava making a third category besides men and women.

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  • Hi, Strava!

    I want to be able to tell whether a PR has been scored on a long-established segment (for which I may have many results and where achieving a new PR is hard) or something recently created (where I would have few results and a PR is more achievable, but less valuable).

    I suggest that this could be supported simply by displaying on a ride's Segments page the date of creation of each segment.

    This would be valuable for spotting real, long term trends.

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  •  rankings; full of bad activities or straight up cheaters

    Why isn't there anybody able and trusted to remove those from rankings?

    It's very bad having to see those kind of 'results' in the rankings from  the beginning of the month and staying there without being removed, despite messages and flagging.

     

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  • This might be a weird request for you all: I would like a switch somewhere (preferably on my gear) which makes me refrain from grabbing the KOM on a section. I don't want XOMs!

    Skip to the conclusion if you don't feel like reading.

    MOTIVATION

    The situation is as follows: Throughout my whole life I did explosive sports (basketball, martial arts). I'm tall too (close to 2m), because of this "mix" I was almost 120 kg at my fittest. Alongside that I've been running and road cycling until my late 20s, when I stopped running due to knee issues and eventually also had to sell my Pinarello because of constant problems in my upper back/neck. And then you're stuck: No more sports left.

    I'm cutting the story short here, but a few years ago, I had gotten quite chubby and I wasn't enjoying it. Then I switched work to a city 30 km away, and the company has a shower for employees. Just before that, I had gotten into recumbent riding and suddenly I had a motivation to do so, too. 

    Since then my life has changed: My car often goes untouched for weeks, my sheds are full of cargobikes, open recumbents and faired recumbents (velomobiles), and I've started to challenge myself: How far can I commute by bike within a reasonable amount of time? It's also challenging which of the bikes is the fastest on a certain section: The velomobile is heavy, uphill and acceleration are hard (even though I have a 2 kilowatt sprint again); in cities my open high racer is a LOT faster, because it's so light and agile. In cold weather and/or into a headwind, the velomobile is fantastic; speed on a 7 bft. tailwind is maybe 30% higher than it is in the other direction, into a 7 bft. headwind. Running a flat and then changing a tube (max. 10 minutes of work on the velomobile) is actually noticeable in the travel time on an 80 km commute, that's how consistent the travel time is in that thing. By the way: yes, I have been passed in the velomobile, by roadies on a tailwind, haha. It's possible when the windspeed in gusts is higher than your own speed, so from around 5 bft. 

    Since I'm back on my A-game now, I have become something that isn't too common: A recumbent rider that is under 40 and that can put out over 300W. The result on the high racer is constant KOMs when I push it hard. Even though I don't have segments in display on my Wahoo, I average over 40 km/h on commutes every now and then and I've had rides with as much as 15 in one run.

    Still, it's a bike, not a velomobile. And, as much as I liked it when I was a "roadie", I like to compete with the rest of the rare breed of fast recumbent cyclists and compare segments, so I leave some hard and max effort rides open for everyone to view. And then I get flagged. A LOT. So much that I guess Strava employees know me by name now; they switch my rides back without question, and block them from being flagged again. 

    The velomobile? I ride that on bike mode too, but leave those rides "followers only". Reason to do so is the fact that I want to compare segments afterwards between different bikes: I want to see what are the fast bits and what are the slow bits of my ride, to select the right bike under the right circumstances, optimize my route and dose my power better. The velomobile mode, however, uses it's own segments, there's not so much of us around yet so it's quite empty, and if you create too much segments you're banned from creating new segments. That plus having to switch the ride from sport "Ride" to "Velomobile Ride" afterwards are annoying. Sometimes I also ride speed pedelec too (because 800km/week is a bit much, haha); if I want to track those rides I'd have to administer another set of segments. And if we make it completely fair, I'm missing a Mountainbike Ride too, and a Gravelbike Ride, and a Cargobike Ride: my cargobike is 46 kg, unassisted, and has the aerodynamic design of a house, but I still managed to grab a 5th place on momentum and explosive power, and got flagged for it (probably by the roadie who tried to keep up during that burst, haha).

    CONCLUSION

    All of the above, my sporty friends, is my motivation to request a switch, preferably on my gear or even on my complete account, to refrain from having KOMs, but to be in the public leaderboards. 

    Since we have a climate to fix, there's nothing wrong with showing the public that there's actually faster ways of traveling on human power than a road bike. Of course, that road bike has it's charm and I even miss it every now and then, but make a little room for the weird, faster kid on the block too. On that note: GCN has actually set a great example :-)

    If you managed up till here: Sorry about the longread!

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  • In the last few hours I've had 4 Activities flagged as "in a vehicle".  None was in a vehicle (for any part). For 2 of the Activities the highest average speeds for Segments were 22 and 24 mph.  Has anyone else noticed something similar ? Maybe another user is being mischievous - if the flags are auto-generated there's something wrong when Segment speeds of 22 mph trigger a flag. 

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  • perhaps the lack of movement from strava on tracking top ten efforts in a personal tab is because a LOT of these details (and many more) are available on the VeloViewer app (powered by Strava)…?

    but still, nothing on the “Strava” app… (but they own the data!!)

    also, what about these other users that are constantly riding (EVERYDAY!!) ebikes on segments without properly indicating? even though they get flagged, or even called out socially, or, specific complaints WITH BACKUP sent to strava, these culprits continue to deteriorate our Strava experience among good friends and team mates.

    then there’s the hackers that don’t actually have profiles or feeds, yet the show up on leaderboards… how’s is that even possible without Strava responding?

    hmm…

    love strava, mostly… but irritating the leadership can’t solve some simple algorithms to pick these culprits.m, or, confirm data they already have the process for, into a simple accessible tab with a premium subscription.

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  • filtering on 'full leaderboard' still doesn't work for many months.

    when i try to filter 'people i'm following' and choose 'today' or 'this week' or 'this month' - the list is empty, however these ppl did that segment (today or this week or month).

    It only shows something if i choose 'this year' or 'all-time'

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  • Display only segments on the current route in the route planner (Snap segments to route)

    During route planning I am often interested to see segments that lie on my route I could go for.
    Unfortunately the planning tool currently only displays some random selection of segments in the visible area. It takes ages to zoom in/out, move the region to get some segments displayed I can look at further -- namely those that lie on my planned route; and not "5 kms away from it, downhill and in the wrong direction".
    It would be a simple to implement filter that one could turn on with a checkbox to display only those.

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  • Night Time Achievements - PoDs (Prince[sses] of Darkness) 

    I want night-time achievements for fastest segments - XoMs but for sections that start an hour after sunset and complete an hour before sunrise... ie it's dark and it's harder.  Maths to calculate this is pretty easy with some basic assumptions.
    And a nice achievement symbol of a crown on a crescent moon. Thank you.

    It will allow more motivation through the winter months -- now it's late autumn in the Northern hemisphere and time on the bike is restricted. But is still fun in a different way. Times are always likely to be slower but competetive with everyone else in the dark.

    I appreciate some lights are now super bright but still cast shadows and even setting off needs more thought in the darker evenings and nights.

    Who else thinks this is a good idea and wants a PoD on their ride stats?

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  • Strava already knows whether it was a morning, lunch, afternoon, evening and night ride by using your time of day in your location.... My garmin knows to switch to night mode on its display. So that tech is already in place. Secondly, no segment changes need be made. The split is done with data on this end, not on the metric recording units. That same indicator that lets Strava know that it was at night, would flag the segments as a night ride.

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  • Thanks for the comments Gavin D. (who gets it) and Mike N. (who says "waste of electrons" in a lot of feedback)... the PoD idea is purely a different subset of fastest ... like "By Age" or "By Weight" -- it's just a holistic "By Night Time" generic.  XoM will always be the real-deal but there are viable alternatives.

    The Strava side is very simple maths (assuming a fairly round earth and some basic trig based on lat/long).  It's optionally up to the manufacturers via the Strava SDK to determine if they include it as a live in-segment thing (that I don't use, but appreciate others do). Just like not all Garmin's support starred segments for live in-segment chasing.  I hadn't even thought of that, but it's just like not all my segments come up at ride-time, only the uphill starred ones.

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  • @William O.  I disagree.  KOMs are usually faster than QOMs as men are physically stronger than women in a lot of circumstances.  That isn't sexist it's fact and nature haha.  Why do you think men aren't allowed to compete in women's sporting events?  It is unfair.  It is a great achievement for a woman to beat all men and having a KOM to display that would be sweet.

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  • Hi 🇧🇪Michael🌱 B. ! I've created a support ticket for you so that our team can help you directly. Thank you Ian Barton for helping out here as well! You're right, an option would be to delete your profile and create a new one. 

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  • Really like the "Your year in sport" stats summary, very well designed and satisfying to review! One improvement suggestion would be to state the elevation and distance in terrestrial terms to give them context, i.e. "You climbed a total of 18,000m, that's equivalent to climbing Everest twice" or "You ran a total of 1,500 km, that's like running from Sydney to Adelaide"

    If you want to implement this, maybe you can give me a free subscription as payment :)

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  • Just a thought about rides vs virtual rides.  It would be nice to see in "mystats", and other places, a different icon and colors listing virtual ride miles/output info etc next to the regular bicycle icon that is already given.  I know you can see some of what I am talking about when you look at the training log, but would love to see directly in all other outputs.  Example in a bar graph different colors showing distances ridden or run etc.  Again, just a suggestion - Love Strava Thanks

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  • Thomas Larsen - All you have to do is open the activity and use the "crop" feature.  In the app, if you click on the activity, then click on the three dots in the top right of the screen, then select "crop activity".  Follow instructions in there to cut out the portion in the vehicle and all is good.

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  • Thomas Larsen

    Sorry to hear about the crash.

    Just crop the ride and that will remove the KOMs.

    In some cases it might be handy to have the ability to remove individual KOMs, but in this case a simple crop should suffice as they are all at the end of the ride.

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  • Thomas Larsen:  The best way I know to delete segments is to crop the recorded activity.
    In the Strava Web UI, go to the activity and look for the three dots at the bottom of the box on the left-hand side.  Click on that; one of the options will be "Crop".  You should be able to trim off the tail end of the activity.  Good luck!

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  • My Stats on profile info for Bike/Run/Swim

    You are able to see your annual totals in "my stats" on your profile info site, like overall distance and time etc..
    This is shown for Bike/Run/Swim - these three activity types are probably the most common ones most people are interested in.
    Especially in winter time, many users are doing indoor cycling / virtual cycling which is also summing up in the bike category.

    In my view the indoor training rides can not be compared to the "real" rides on the road.
    Same effort in watts but higher speed and longer distance achieved over the same time.

    Therefore, when I am sitting on an indoor trainer (rare scenario anyway), I do track these virtual rides as workout, to avoid getting these numbers added in my bike totals, as they would give no correct totals for bike in the end. Mixed totals from two different activity types in my view.  
    If I would track these virtual cycling activities as normal cycling, I would not be able to compare a year where virtual cycling+ outdoor cycling is summed up in the totals for bike, with a year where I have not been doing any virtual cycling at all.

    My request would be: isn't it possible to enhance these 3 main categories to become 4 categories by splitting bike into "bike" and "virtual bike" ?
    (or even better: having the feature to select all different types of activities in My Stats totals)

     

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  • Comparing activities on the same route - similar to "Fly-Bys"

    Hi, I think it would be a great idea to develop the ability for a user to comare their efforts on the same route over time. I don't just mean a data analysis page, but a dynamic view of one ride (or many) against another, in a similar format to how the Fly-Bys page works.

    If a user could select the particualr efforts they wanted to compare, then view the dynamic map, it would be advantageous to see where they performed better today, compared to other days.

    For example - Today I rode faster up a particualr hill than I did yesterday, even though my overall time was slower today for the same route.

    I understand that by reviewing segment times I can see the same thing, but if a route has multiple segments, this can be time consuming and it does not easily illustrate where the performance differences lie.

     

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  • William O.

    True, but this would just give me a data analysis of both rides.

    What I'm after is a map of the route showing both rides as they progress along the route - like the Fly Bys app. As a graphical comparison of the rides, it would show the variation in speeds for different sections in a much easier format to visualise, as opposed to a simple performance analysis comparision.

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  • When I scroll down my activity feed, it does not show all my exercises or races  older than a few months back. I can find them through Training Log or Training calendar, but it requires a bit of an effort. And I am not even sure that Log or Calendar go all the way to the beginning. It would be nice to keep "Races" in activity feed forever. For example I like to run marathon races, and ski marathons. It would be nice to see all my marathon races in the list, and skip some training runs of 5 or 10 miles, if all the runs cannot be kept in the activity feed due to size or space limitations. Many other people, I am sure, would like to see their important races kept for longer periods of time as well.

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  • I notice that the format of bike segment pages has recently changed.  It used to show KOM and QOM (which I understood) and now there seem to be 3 categories in the "Fastest Times" section - CR, KOM and QOM.  I'm guessing the CR is the faster of the KOM and QOM but so far for every segment I've looked at the CR is the same as the KOM - am I missing something ?   I also notice that on my profile the "KOMs" tab is now "KOMS / CRs" - is there a way to tell which are KOMs and which are CRs ?

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  • Ian Barton

    So basically you want an easy way to see where a woman has beaten you?

    There definitely are segments I've found where a woman has the CR.

    In future when someone takes a KOM off you, do you get two emails? One for KOM and one for CR?

    What might be quite nice is something similar to what Sauce does, show you "Power Profile Badges" next to KOMs. This way you can see where you got a KOM even though you weren't at peak power. This might suggest you want to have another go if you don't want someone else to take it (or it's really technical).

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  • Hello,

    I am thinking about a new feature for track runners and track cyclists. It would be great to follow our PR on track with manual entries : 100m and 400m for track runners, 200m flying lap and 1000m for track cyclists for example. Each runner/cyclist could write manually their times and the date. It could be a private feature for Strava subscribers. I know there are some segments of athletics tracks and velodromes but times are not as precise as on a long segment on road.
    thank you for reading me

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  • Ian Barton

    I wonder if the new system is simply the one deemed "least controversial" by Strava.

    However I would hope that it is not controversial that a male athlete would always aspire to the CR and never think that a non-male athlete would have any sort of advantage over them due to their biological sex.

    On the point of equal KOMs, I fully support this change. If you get a time on a Monday and I get the same time on a Tuesday, then those times are equally impressive. Strava segments don't have the same historical importance as the hour record or similar. I would also note that many of the older times are based on much less accurate GPS which in some cases can be shown to be an unfair advantage.

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  • For all the same reasons it is helpful to see Estimated Best Efforts, PRs or personal best running times I think it'd be helpful/useful/interesting to see Estimated Best Efforts (etc) Swimming times. 100 yrd / 500 yrds / 1000 yrds / 1 mile and All time Longest Swim (all of this can be applicable to open water or lap swimming)

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  • Virtual Climbs Not Recognized in Longest Climb Stat. 

    From Strava support: Although virtual activities contribute to annual ride and run stats, and virtual activities do contribute to your longest ride, virtual activities are not recognized to your longest climb, as the biggest climb stat will only take data from real GPS data recorded outdoors.

    How to solve this conundrum? Add a virtual longest climb?

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  • Hello, 

    It will be great to have KOMOR, a King of Montain Of Régulariti. It will be the best average time of our  5 or 10 best time on a segment.

    And to have more poeple who said really that they are on a e-bike, the segment created can be the same on the two catégories. And they can be added on the classement but If we are on muscular bike, we have also a classement with only muscalar and if we are on a e-bike we have too a classement with only e-bike. There are toi much poeple who said that they are on muscalar instead of e-bike only because they want to see the time of their friend and to have segment because they don't want to create one.

    And if a athlète have more than 5 signalement on e-bike it will be great if you commute directly all their activity on e-bike.

    Thank's a lot for this improvement.

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