Strava for Adventure Motorcycle and Moto-X Communities

Recently, I did an experiment with the Strava App during a dirt bike ride through Ocotillo Wells.  As suspected, the Strava App worked great, minus the obvious—“Calories” burned.  I suspect that this might be in question since I was not wearing a heart monitor, and I was not riding my bicycle.  That said, I really see an opportunity to service a whole other market that is lacking the level ease and detail Strava can provide.  What I am suggesting is a re-brand, sister app (based on the current Strava App) specifically targeted for the Adventure / Dirt Bike / Moto-Cross rider.  This off-shoot of the popular Strava App would maintain the current features, update the algorithm for calorie consumption, and provide the user with a setting to account for laps automatically. The new feature of accounting for laps can provide increased detail; with split times, best lap, average lap time etc… thus providing a training tool that I foresee many riders would take seriously. By providing this capability to the Adventure / Dirt Bike / Moto-Cross rider, Strava can easily establish itself as the affordable, premier GPS athletic activity tracking option for motorcycle enthusiasts.   

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    You can add your vote here to help us decide which activities the community most wants to see added to Strava. 

    Adding an activity option for motocross, motorcycle rides, or other types of motor-sports is not under consideration at Strava. I hope we can consider this request at a future time. 

    Please be sure to use the "Hide from Segment Leaderboards" option when uploading a motor-assisted ride activity. With this option enabled, your segment efforts will still appear under "My Results" for analysis. You can select this privacy setting on an individual activity, or you can go to your account settings to hide your segment times by default on all new uploads.  It is the activity owner's responsibility to correctly upload their data according to our Segment Leaderboard Guidelines. Thanks. 

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  • Yes please. Please add this. please please please please?!?!?!?!!?!?!? All the mountain bikers in my area are pissed because mtn biking is the closest thing for us dirtbikers to select and the throws off all their stuff. I have to select Nordic Skiing. Yawn. 

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  • This would be awesome, for those of us that use cycling/running as training for motorcycle racing.  There is a fairly large community that races endure/harescrambles/motocross that I believe would use this.

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  • PLEASE DO THIS!!!!

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  • I'm an avid cyclist who also rides dirt bikes. Like many others, I've been wanting to track my moto rides on Strava.

    Based on the number of requests for this feature, Strava either isn't listening to the community, or has an anti-moto bias.

    Having asked support for this myself, and gotten the following total bullshit response, I don't think I'll be renewing my premium membership. I'm pretty fu*#ing pissed off after getting a response like this:

    "Hello,

    Sorry we're not able to meet your needs at this time. Features that are put on our product roadmap for future development are determined based on a number of factors, including input from our users. Our Product focus is to serve Athletes, so it's not likely that we will add functionality for motorcycles in the near future. Again, sorry we're not able to meet your needs.

    Best,
    Sheila
    Strava Support Team"

    Focus on Athletes? Really?

    These are more athletic than moto riding?

    Crossfit
    Elliptical
    Ice Skate
    Rock Climbing
    Stair-Stepper
    Yoga

    How is Stair Stepper, or Elliptical, or Yoga even a Strava-able activity?

    I don't see ANY requests for some of these activities, but they made it.

    Do a search of the community feature requests, and there are:

    15 results for "moto"
    12 results for "motorcycle"
    24 results for "dirt bike"

    I've defended Strava time after time as being about more than just stroking one's ego with KOM's to all the anti-Strava haters in recent years, but now I just feel like finding another service to use.

    Yoga is more "athletic" than motocross? Fuck you Strava

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  • Was thinking the same idea, would be awesome to have!
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  • Yep, would love to see the offroad trails I ride!

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  • It would be a great idea!

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  • Good idea! :)

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  • It would be nice! But I think it would be better to have all activities in the same app!

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  • Please add motorbike feature.  I use strava to train for my enduro training and I don't really like picking MTB but I do because its the closest thing to it.  I would be super pumped and mtb would also be happy because I wouldn't be messing them up

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  • Here's another vote for a "motorcycle" category. Strava works great for tracking offroad dirtbike rides. I typically create "private" segments for my motorcycle rides. It would be nice to have the option to select "motorcycle" rather than "mountain bike."

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  • Strava are you reading this? We need it. At the very least, use have a completely built out platform that can re-named and made for motorized vehicles. I know of dozens of guys in my area, who use strava for dirt biking, and save it as ice skating, wind surfing, or other abstract sports. (That would never happen on a trail.) Com on Strava!!

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  • Hello Kyle MacDermaid.  i fully agree with you and it annoys me that i can not track my motorcycle training because there is no selection activity available.  however in contrast i can see the KOM and the top 10 are running the same times within seconds on umarked trails that are nigh on impossible to ride on downhill mountain bikes due to the type of terrain.   the mroe we discuss here the higher the chance of us getting a change through.  other requests are running into 100 or more comments and supporters.  this request is well below in the hit rate and we need to push the topic if we want this strava prodcut to develop.  otherwise switch to Garmin products and use garmin connect to track motorcycling. 

    br andrew

     

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  • Yep add it. 

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  • My solution is now to use the ebike tag for motorcycle rides. After all, once a lowere source that isn't the rider is added to a bicycle, they're motorcycles.  

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  • Wondering why the poll has "minus".  Seems like a plus vote would be more indicative of what the community wants.  Minus votes just seem like a way for community members to "exclude" people or groups they don't like or agree with even though the inclusion of those groups would have no affect on the voter. 

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  • I have to be honest, I've been using the bicycle mode for dirtbiking. I know this messes up everyones stats so I only use it on trails that are extremely unlikely to see cyclists. Having said that it really shouldn't be too hard to add a dirtbike mode and strip out all the cardio stuff to streamline the interface (heck, leave it in if it's easier, I just won't look at it)

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  • My guess is liability and street racing get into this pretty soon, which is unfortunate.  Personally I'd like it just from a tracking/adventure standpoint as that's what I use my dual sport for, and I'm perhaps one of the rare users who's objective is to explore out gravel roads, trails, cutlines for suitability to our big cycling adventures.  I'm not aware of as easy a tracking interface for dirtbikes.  Personally I'd rather not just use "bicycling" as my setting as I do try not to screw up mine, and others, strava times.

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  • I opened a new ticket on this topic and Strava closed it due to lack of activity. This request is way down the list of things wanted.  i continue to be eliminated from KOM offroad and based on my speed it looks like the other persons on motor bikes too,  wonder when this conflict between motorcycles and bicycles will get fixed by Strava, it can not be difficult?

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  • This would be greatly appreciated

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  • I'm a ROR programmer (sounds like this is what Strava is built on) and I was thinking about the logistics of this feature. As a suggestion to Strava I would almost consider rolling out an entirely separate app for motorcycles. Duplicate your app, strip out the features that are unnecessary for moto and roll it out with a new name like Strave-moto or if you don't want any association with Strava you can call it whatever you'd like.

    • This would allow you to have two completely different stacks that won't effect each codebase
    • You won't end up offending your hard-earned cycling/running user-base with a moto-based option
    • Any legalities can be dealt within an isolated app
    • You can build up a new moto-based client base
    • Ability to share data between apps means that a more complete (further-reaching) trail network
    • If the name is completely different then the risk of diluting your brand loyalty is less
    • a conversion of cycling/running to dirtbike/atv/4x4 or something could be possible (how amazing would this be! Seriously consider the HUGE increase in target-market!)

    Just my two cents. I hope you guys are listening to this thread because I honestly believe that their is a serious opportunity here. The only other problem is gathering the funds and resources to do it, good luck.

     

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  • Thanks for the outpouring of feedback on this topic! Love seeing all the comments and passionate folks out there. 

    I'd say that a separate Strava app just for the "motorized" community is pretty unlikely. However, we have a range of Activity Types already available within the app, and each type has it's own autonomy - meaning they don't share segments. 

    So, creating a new Activity Type for motorized bikes/motorcycles would have it's own suite of segments and wouldn't interfere with other cyclists. Is that something that would work here? What would you want to call this new type? 

    I'm not sure what we could do for an auto-lap feature, but it's feasible. I think it's also feasible to disable our current estimated watts and calorie calculations for activities in this new proposed category. 

    In short, let us know specifically what you'd like to see, and that will give us the best information to assess the demand going forward. Thanks!

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  • Elle,

    Creating a new activity type is what I have been asking for all along, I'm super excited that it is being considered.

    I would suggest naming it "motorcycle"
    I would also suggest copying the bicycle activitys format, I use the same data used in bicycle as I do for my motorcycle training. The sport of off-road riding is very similar to mtb.

    Feel free to look at my strava account, all strava outside of jasper is done on my dirtbike.
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  • Ellie! I can't tell you what a pleasure it is to know you are listening. For training purposes the lap feature and calorie is absolutely critical. There are many types of offroad riding where lapped timing is essential. Both in motocross racing and hair scrambles (both have national and world wide competitive pro classes) have laps in them. If the calories runs off of a heart rate monitor band, it will only help us try to get more fit as we put in more seat time.

    Please include both of these features. To summarise, what the others have mentioned about it being and using all of the same features as mountain biking would be amazing with one exception, WATTS. We dont need watts. But everything else would be epic. 

    Wooohooooo

     

    --Peter

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  • Awesome, thanks Ellie! Basically we'd just need the same features as cycling, minus the watts. If you really wanted to get fancy, you could do a motorcycle/motorize bicycle, a 4 wheeler/ATV, and a snowmobile type for winter. That would really rock! 

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  • Thanks Elle,

    Yes that would be great. A "motorcycle" activity would be great. And the ability to create segments, have leaderboards, and see the vital stats would be awesome. I do wear a heart rate monitor and use a Garmin Edge 500 on the motorcycle. So stats of interest would distance, time, elevation, ave speed, and max speed. Like Mountain bikers, we would be interested in the following types of segments; climbs, descents, and loops.

    The above would be Fantastic!!

    Auto laps would be cool too. On the track, much like a crit race, velodrome, or bmx bike race.

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    Now Icing on the cake would be a the ability to see "Ride" separate from "moto" on the training log. So you could see how much your riding on bicycle vs. the motorcycle and combined if you like. Almost every motorcycle racer trains on a bike (either road or mountain.) This could even be done in the Training Log, by either adding another check box labeled "include Moto", much like the "Include Commutes" checkbox. Or we could just mark all moto rides as a "commute" to filter these miles out of Rides. Just an idea.......

    If you add this activity type. I'll pay and go premium:-)

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  • Hi Elle, it should be enough add Motorsport activity with the same features of cycling but without power stats. In a second level (gear selection), being able to assign the activity to MX, Enduro.

    I'm using MotionX-GPS app to track my Dirt Bike session and then I upload it to strava like Alpine Ski... the only downside is Motion X does not include heart rate in the GPX file. This way I save my cycling statistics uncontaminated.

    It should be easy for Starva Team! Thanks if you consider this.

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  • I run, cycle, and race dirtbikes. I have found Strava works great for timing my laps on motocross/off-road tracks. However I use cycling as the activity and thus adds mileage to my cycling stats. I would love if Strava added a dirtbike category.

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  • A Strava rep a while back said they'd do this, but they haven't. I am an avid cyclist, but I also use strava when riding moto, and I used it a week ago snowmobiling. (We just do "wind surfing" as the category.) If strava doesn't want to offer anything for motorized vehicles, then maybe someone should just make the exact same app for motorized vehicles. If Strava isn't willing to support motorized vehicles then they have no protection against someone making the exact same app for dirt bikes, atvs, utvs, snowmobiles, or any ORV... 

    STRAVA, either make new categories based on need, or someone is going to make a knockoff app... 

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