New Run Activity Pages

Please leave us your comments and feedback for the new Run Activity pages here.

Great news, runners: your new run activity page on Strava.com is now live. We spoke to tons of you about what is important when viewing your activities and those of others, and have incorporated your needs and experiences as runners into this new page. 

Some of the new features:

  • Social Bar: We added a social bar to the top of the page, putting your activity title, description, comments, kudos, Instagram photos, and other athletes on your run front and center.
  • Sharing Module:  Easily share your run to Facebook, Twitter, Google+, email, or embed in your blog from the sharing module located at the top, left-hand corner of the page.
  • Key Stats: Distance, time, average pace and elevation are located between the Social Bar and Elevation & Performance Chart. Your mile/km splits from your run are located on the right-hand side of your activity map.
  • Top Results: Get a snapshot of your achievements for the run, including any goals you have accomplished, PRs for best efforts, and segment achievements. 
  • Elevation & Performance Chart: We’ve vastly improved the visual interaction for reviewing and scrubbing all your activity details. Use the cursor to look at your pace, elevation, grade adjusted pace and grade at any point during your run.
  • Premium Analysis: We've rolled out changes to the Pace analysis and distribution, including the new analysis specific to a race. Now you can designate a run activity as a "Race" and get interactive and granular data such as race splits and projected finish times. 
  • Segment Efforts, Stats & Comparison: We’ve optimized the Segment Efforts within your activity so you can quickly scan your most meaningful achievements. We display key stats of your effort along with your leaderboard ranking. And when you’re looking at another athlete’s segment effort, you’ll be able to compare your PR against theirs.

Some of the changes: There are aspects of the run activity pages that are not currently available, with some of these aspects scheduled to return, redesigned, at a later date:

  • Viewing the Performance Chart with 'time' as the x-axis: The new performance chart is set with 'distance' as the x-axis, and we plan to re-add the option to switch to 'time' in the near future (coming soon). 
  • Lap data from a Garmin device: Will now be visible underneath the Segments view in the left sidebar for Free and Premium users.
  • Segment Comparison: The ability to compare your segment effort with your PR and/or the CR for the segment has been removed, and will return after a redesign incorporating the features from http://raceshape.com/.
  • Run "Score": The run intensity score that appeared previously under the Analysis tab is no longer available, but will return when the calculation is more accurate. 
  • GAP for mile splits: We're currently working on our algorithm for GAP. Once the algorithm is improved, GAP split data will be displayed on our new Premium Pace & Race Analysis pages.
  • Best Efforts: The technology available used to generate Best Efforts was not up to our high standard of accuracy. Due to this, we will continue to display any PRs you receive for the next few weeks, but then we will turn off Best Efforts in its current form. Over the next few months, we'll continue to explore innovative and relevant ways to bring this feature back to all users once it has reached our high standards of accuracy. We apologize for this change.

Some Known Issues:

  • FIXED Performance Issues: We're hard at work improving the performance issues that have been reported. Improvements coming soon.
  • FIXED Hidden Segments: Hidden segments will be re-adding this week (we still need to add the ability to hide and unhide segments)
  • FIXED Elevation Correction for your Run: Will be re-added very soon.
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  • Hello Strava runners,

    We've posted a blog this morning that announces some new run updates and we also hope it continues the dialogue on our end:

    http://blog.strava.com/run-activity-page-updates-and-improvements-6500/

    Thanks, -Elle

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  • Excellent, I look forward to best (estimated) efforts coming back.  

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  • Elle So basically you're ignoring most of the comments on this thread. Showing that, if you have listened as you claim, then you have mostly ignored your users. And the many months that have passed on this doesn't really fulfil the "continuing the dialog" comment. I can only assume that after the DCRainmaker blog thrashing that panic has started to set in.
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  • I was excited to read the new blog entry, hoping to see some decent improvements on the horizon - how wrong I was.

    Let's me make this VERY CLEAR. Almost everything you've touted as improvements are simply working towards putting back what we ALWAYS HAD with the old run pages. There's nothing new, nothing great, nothing that makes this entire debacle worth while.

    If you're so confident that an inverted pace graph is the right decision, why don't you put up a poll and actually ask your end users?? I guarantee it won't end well for STRAVA.

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  • Hmm no sorry for the delay in getting back to us?..... (or ignoring us).

    I agree poll to vote on the inverted nonsense. Infact why not run a poll on whether the old site or the new site is better?

    Infact why don't you guys just close down the running facility on your app and site its pretty useless nowadays anyway.

     

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  • Oh and as for Strava originally saying no features would be taken away from the free users it seems you have lied as the splits showing GAP has been moved to premium.

    What a bunch of useless liars you really are.

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  • A quote from yourselves:

    'Regarding some of the changes we made and why - we will never diminish the free experience as a way to get people to upgrade.  We don't bait and switch, that's not how we do things.  Our company philosophy is that our free experience should be absolutely amazing and that Premium should offer even more. We want both Free and Premium users to be delighted with us'

    - Rachael (head of customer support and marketing)

    I assume based on the above assurance that GAP will be moving back to free? Otherwise you have indeed diminished the free experience I am sure this is just one of many examples.

    Why would I want to pay you anything if the above is how you conduct your business?

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  • Bummer on the graph; hoped to see updates coming there. I really don't find it useful. As mentioned, inverted pace is crazy. Having no y-axis labels when turning on heartrate or even GAP is crazy. I realize I can mouse over parts for values, but that isn't useful for interpreting the run as a whole, something a graph should strive to convey. I don't see how you can feel good putting that chart in the blog post. Look, the purple GAP line behaves differently than the blue line. They don't even share an axis/scale as you'd expect since one is a variation on the other so really serve no purpose. The purple line went up on the downhill... let's see, up means slower? Was it slower than the true pace? Or maybe the uphill was the same as the true pace? Or... You can't even get a relative comparison at a glance as you could if those two at least shared an unlabeled axis (which they did for a bit, but not when HR was also on). Then you can turn on heartrate and... another wiggly line with no scale. It is sort of opposite of the pace one - oh right, lower values for higher speed. The chart looks neat at a glance but conveys no info when you try to use it.
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  • I think I've worked out the pace graph now. My guess is that it's to show how far off your best pace you are which actually is a more useful piece of info from a training perspective. We all use it as a speed graph though to see how fast we were going, and so this change doesn't work for us. It may therefore make more sense for Strava to create a "speed" option and leave the pace alone?

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  • Of course!  Personally, I don't have a major problem with the pace graph being inverted - but what a good point David makes.

    Add a second line for speed - which of course would go higher the faster you run - maybe that's what people are looking for.

    Don't know why I hadn't thought of this!  I've also used Runtastic a lot which has exactly that.  You can turn on / off pace (inverted) and speed as you wish.

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  • Matt,

    Yes - GAP will be returning to the free experience in the next few weeks.  Our philosophy has not changed - we will never take a free feature and make it Premium.

    Best, Rachael

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  • Congratulations STRAVA, you guys have proven that you do indeed know how to develop, test and implement new features flawlessly with the introduction of the new 'My Routes' feature. This is a great addition to STRAVA which so far has worked really well and I will continue to use in the future.

    Now how great would it be if you could apply the same philosophy to the new run pages? Still they've been ignored while the rest of STRAVA is coming along in leaps and bounds...

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  • Please roll back to the old version. You have been trying to fix this one but is not getting better, I have been trying to use and is useless.  It's very hard to connect the data with so many pages and clicks. It's not working. There is something about the the cycling page which is way much straight forward that is easier to see the data and connect everything together. This new one it's not good, all these clicks coming and going are not helping.

    BTW the elevation correction got screwed up, is showing way much less than before for the segments. It's almost so crapped as mapmyride. But "ride with gps" has been doing a way much better job about elevation correction and creating your map. If you brought back the old design and paid for the license from their mapping tool and elevation correction, I guess I would consider Strava awesome. Now with all these clicks and elevation correction screwed up, is just getting worst and loosing its credibility. I only load my data on Strava because of the leaderboards, the rest I am not even looking anymore because is not working good or a waste of time. Pace should be treated as speed on the graph, if you are going faster being inverted just makes you need to think if you are going faster or not because it's not intuitive. You were intuitive and this is why everybody used to love Strava, now you are not anymore.

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  • You'd think that 4 months would be enough time to add the right axis to a graph.  You'd think that being told many times that an inverted graph for speed isn't just counter-intuitive (defeating the purpose of graphical display of information) but theoretically flawed as it *cannot* account for stopping (hey, what did you expect a zero speed to look like in pace?)    You'd think that zooming into a portion of the graph, something that worked before, something that *EVERY OTHER SITE* has figured out, wouldn't take going on a third of a year to (not) fix.  you'd think that being able to map with time as an axis wouldn't be tough -- you did it before and still do it for cycling. 

    You'd think that, but it does seem pretty tough for them to actually fix.  I guess advertising on TdF was more important than actually having a product worth paying for.

    Apparently, the run page is a real low priority.  It's easier to lie (do you really think we're stupid enough to believe it wasn't planned to try it on runners before trying it on your larger base?)  and say that it wasn't a test ground for changes than to tell the truth that we're guinea pigs.  (If they did this with the cycling page, they'd already be selling office furniture in a going out of business sale.)

     

    It's comically bad.

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  • I'd given up looking tbh, but just noticed the pace graph on the android run app seems to be our preferred orientation now.
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  • It has gone very quiet on this thread..

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  • no longer seems a point

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  • This still makes me sad.  I uploaded a run to check in and it is disappointing.  Segments have become so hard to work with:

    - There are so many more clicks.  Why is everything hidden behind more clicks?  I can't see all of a run's segments overlaid at once, for example.  I don't see the cycling equivalent of selection from the main screen to create a segment either.  Not a big deal there - the segment creation page probably does a better job of getting folks to find "good" start and end points - but it seems odd to remove so much.

    - The actual segment page is the nice, familiar cycling view.  Looking at a specific effort is the new interface that is not intuitive.  It shows the performance in a non-configurable way (no toggles for what to view, just the pace and HR.

    - Where is comparison?  I love that about the cycling segments - comparing myself against the KoM, with or without another rider was fun and insightful.  Particularly when I had a KoM and could compare my current effort against it.

     

    Anyway, likely all pointed out and ignored in here somewhere.  I'll check in again in the future but there is currently no point to uploading runs to Strava.

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  • With the movement of the segments panel, now I can't see my route map and my performance/elevation graph at the same. Significant loss of functionality for me.. 

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  • Сегодня запустил Strava, пробежал по пересечёнке в лесу с подъёмами и спусками, дистанция 5 км, Strava записала но не синхронизации не было так что на сайте и в Facebook тоже, результата не увидел, GPS работал, интернет тоже, в чём дело, не пойму. 

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  • Today launched Strava, ran through the forest with ascents and descents, the distance of 5 km, Strava recorded but not sync was not so on the website and on Facebook, too, saw the GPS worked, too, what's the matter, can not understand.

     

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  • Just to check... these graphs are going to be shit forever, right? I gave up commenting for a while but I still dont get it.

    I beg of you to please check the IQ of the person that designed them. Or someone, somewhere, please tell me why it's that way up? What use is it? Just one use of having the pace inverted. What need is there to display pace that way up? Just one reason.

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  • Cyclists - the new pages are coming! Just seen a "Get a sneak peak at the new ride page" link on my cycling pages. At first glance - the ability to click and expand segments without going to a separate page is good. Enjoy testing everyone ;-)

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  • My initial thoughts are that the new ride pages are MUCH better than the existing run pages.  Can strava roll these out to the run pages ?

    ( I suspect that strava have long since stopped listening to this thread)

    As DCrainmaker points out in his recent blog - companies need to make sure they are responsive to their customers

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  • "Some Known Issues:
    FIXED Hidden Segments: Hidden segments will be re-adding this week (we still need to add the ability to hide and unhide segments)"
    The post above is from 11 April

    It is still not possible to unhide/hide a <Run Actvivty> segment. Hopefully it gets fixed soon.

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  • I totally gave up using it to analyze runs. It's a shame it was a very straight forward tool. Now I only use to see the leader board in cycling and running and see the graphs in cycling. The rest is completely useless. Training peaks gives a better feedback about training data, I am sticking with a paid membership there. It's a way more professional product. Strava to see leader board and Training Peaks to store my training and progress. Strava doesn't worth to pay after this crap that was done to it. Really sad that became so useless. :-(

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  • Can Strava please give us an update on this?

     

    Are the run pages now complete for the foreseeable future or are there more updates to come?  You've hinted that there is more to come, but we've heard nothing.

     

    Paying customers not being treated well.

     

    Andrew

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  • Trying to upload a gps file on a Mac using Safari. The upload page looks for a garmin device and will not stop looking, even though one is not connected. Safari basically crashes.

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  • Andrew - I am guessing the lack of response means they are complete for now. I have not seen the beta ride pages announced yet, but comments on it in this same forum make it sound like much of the run pages were adopted - e.g. more clicks to see segment info, no comparisons of segment efforts, less info on the page. They have to be more responsive to the larger cycling base, I'd hope. I don't understand how burying and removing segment functionality fits in to a strategy for Strava - the segments were really the main thing that drew users and set them apart from other sites. They also have a critical mass of users building and competing on those segments such that it would be harder for another site to usurp them, but it can happen if they annoy/frustrate enough folks.
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  • Anyone have any recommendations on a website or software that provides the capability to compare segment efforts? It seems clear Strava isn't making it a priority to bring back - it has been gone most of a year from running now and the new cycling pages are apparently dropping it too. I pay for sporttracks and am going to try out their new sporttracks.mobi site, but any recommendations would be appreciated. Comparing efforts against others would be great, but at a minimum I'd like to be able to define segments I commonly train on and be able to load up two (or more) efforts to see how I fared with different pacing, or just review them as regular benchmarks.
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