Eliminate Lifts from Speed Distance and cumulated Height Calculations

If i get it right lifts are recorded in strava during biking exactly as if the distance was pedaled uphill. This makes it necessary to disable strava before each lift ride and enable it again afterwards (which i often forget). 

Is it possible to enable lifts from the evaluation of an activity automatically? This would lead to more precise exercise data, especially in alpine skiing and gravity MTB.
Lift Segments should be easy to detect from gps data due to the fact that all people submitting activities going exactly the same distance per time. Often in a straight line.

Kind regards,

Jan

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  • Kill the lifts. I have ridden 3 parks this year and my climbing total are all scartter-wompus because of it. Please find a way to kill lift sections from ones climbing history.

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  • Same remark, it doesn't work even if I stop start my garmin 910 xt during the lift.

    Would it be possible to remove segments from calculation ?

    Ludo

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  • Alistair, the differential energy expenditure between mtn bike downhill flow and a technical trail or a bumps run and a groomer is not what is in question. Those who care about that can simply wear a HR monitor. The problem this forum is trying to address is that people want to be able to eliminate the free elevation gains obtained when riding lifts and shuttles. Those meters (or feet) make it impossible to measure long term training progress from your Strava data. Most riders and back country skiers are very interested in their climbing totals. 

    I am surprised that Strava still has not addressed or commented on this suggestion. 

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  • Yes! Please kill the lifts. I would like to use Strava at bikeparks, but I definitely cannot see myself turning in off and on over and over between each ride. One one hand I would totally forget about it. On the other hand I would rather leave my cell phone in the car, then turning Strava on/off all the time ;).

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  • Still can't believe this hasn't been addressed.  WTH are Strava thinking?  Even when I pause a ride on my Garmin and even turn the device off, then restart it after the shuttle/lift back to the top, it is still included in the distance and elevation gained.  Ridiculous.

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  • Please Strava, we need to be able to remove uplifts!

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  • yep make it so we can remove uplifts.

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  • Would love this feature. Kinda ruins the data with out it.  

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  • If we could flag a segment as a "lift" segment then these can be excluded from totals automatically. This would help with gondola rides and chair lifts. It wouldn't help so much with shuttles as you may also ride the same route.

    I record using Cyclemeter and upload to Strava. Cyclemeter reports 200m ascent for my last ride, Strava reports over 1200m,it's counting the gondola rides even though I didn't record any data during them.

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  • Thinking about this again opens even more possibilities. People who are offering shuttle services could use designated Strava Accounts or Groups to eliminate "fake" climbs during shuttling e.g. by car. These climbs are not tha easy to detect using gps data but it should be possible to subtract the climbs of an "index rider" (the shuttle driver) from all other members climbs. Shuttling service providers could use such a feature to make their services (even more) appealing to customers using strava.

    I too wonder why there is no comment from the team on this topic. As far as i know the gravity community using Strava is not that small.

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  • Johnny, I'm with you. Strava is focused on cycling and running so unless they've changed their outlook recently I wouldn't hold your breath for it. I too would like a tool/service to track all my sporting activities, not just running and cycling.

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  • Don't waste your time, this one of multiple threads on this issue. Clearly Strava donesn't care about mountain bikes, only lycra clad roadies. Track your ride on Trailforks instead. It's a much better app with offline maps as well.

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  • It's very easy to autodetect lifts in the activity and eliminate this data from all the statstics. Also you can have some interface for users to precisely adjust the limits of all the lifts in the activity. You will collect a huge database of lifts all over the world.

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  • Yes please STRAVA, how long will it take to program in simple designation of segments as lifts???

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  • Same here, I get seriously wrong data when using Strava for doing shuttle runs in the mountains using Gondolas. Distance and time are wrong. I even turn off my GPS for the gondola rides but Strava does consider these intervals despite of it.

    I really don't mind if I would have to turn off my device, but Strava has to eliminate these uphill-times/km from the ride data. Otherwise it is just wrong!

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  • OK, I can get that you really want to loose the lift time and distance, I too would be interested to know how much of the 30+ miles I skied today was actual skiing, but saying its to calculate precise exercise data I find quite amusing (scratching my head trying to figure out how to distinguish a mogul run from a groomed run using just GPS data).

     

     

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  • Yes please, we need a way to mark climbs as having been a lift/shuttle/gondola. With the number of us asking for this feature, how is this not a thing yet?

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  • That's hardly a solution. I often go on 30km+ rides with 400m of natural climbing. Part way through there is a shuttle that takes me to a peak. I don't want that ascent recorded. I record in Cyclemeter which does not record the ascent, yet when uploading to Strava it acts as if I rode that climb when I didn't. I stop recording at the start of the shuttle. I'm not sure why it would decide that I have ridden a part of the ride that was not even recorded.

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  • I'll add my name to those wanting this feature.

    I did I ride with a mixture of uplifts and normal climbs last week. I paused Strava on my watch before each uplift, and only the distance I rode was counted. However the total elevation gain was counted. Surely elevation and distance should work the same - i.e. not being logged when an activity is paused... (Trail forks seems to do this well)

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  • Here an other vote. 

    Please make a option to skip de lift evaluation meters by making a special lift segment , or a option to disable it for the entire activity.
    would take aan paid strava abbo if needed for this.

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  • STRAVA!!   Please make it possible to cut out these data points in calculation.  

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  • Yup, want this feature too, for skiing in this case!

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  • Trailforks knows how to differentiate lifts from actual riding... Strava is going downhill. Though maybe the function will soon be implemented, but only for summit users?

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  • Quick and simple fix. I’m guessing that most of the people having this issue Want to see how fast they went but don’t really care about the climb, other than it’s recoring to your all time stats. That being said. Make a new account that you only use for DH. Problem solved.

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  • It seems like a lot of people want this feature that doesn't seem to complicated to add. I would become a premium member if this was a feature available to premium account holders. Just some food for thought Strava. 

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