Segment Leaderboards

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  • I would like to be able to see a leaderboard on a segment in Zwift for Followers instead of the overall leaderboard. The overall leaderboard is of no importance to me -- I have no chance of being near the top, and there are so many people it's not possible for me to see the ones I care about, which are the people I ride with.

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  • Still Ebike issues!

    You are losing a lot of your mountain bike users, because of the failure to stop ebikers uploading their rides into normal leaderboards. I will be cancelling my subscription because, like for many other competitive cyclists, the ability to compare your times to other local racers is one of the main reasons to use Strava. Ebike rides continue to take up spots in leaderboards making it impossible to use this as a training tool. 

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  • I would love to be able to search for Inline Skating segments. Right now I have to go out and skate and find out after the fact if I’ve discovered one on my route. I plan on making segments in my city as well, and it would be nice if other locals could search for them as well to help motivate our community.

    Thank you.

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  • Hello Bengt Lowander please note that virtual activity data can be adversely affected by the rider’s defined weight, as well as other factors within the virtual space that lie out of our control. Please submit a support ticket if you have any other specific questions

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  • Please create a separate sport profiles for Classic Nordic Skiing and Freestyle/Skate Nordic Skiing. They’re currently together and these are arguably less similar than road biking and mountain biking. Skate is significantly faster. Thanks!

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  • @Richard Walker

    I support this only if it's a filter that can be viewed electively.

    I want to know the KOMs of all time; records yearly aren't of much interest.

    It's not like society throws out the Guinness book of world records each year and starts fresh.

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  • Diego Coenga  gold star, it should be easy to implement.  Strava please do!

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  • William O.

    I accept this as an add on to "permanent" KOM's.

    Alpe d' Huez doesn't change, nor does the Galibier, nor Ventoux.

    I want to know who is or was the fastest.  If I can also see who is recent, sure, just don't erase or remove the all time data.  Maybe it's been a few years since one visited an area - such as during covid - so do their records need to be erased just because of a gap of recency?

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  • Let's get a category for ice yachting. It's big in Wisconsin.

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  • Mike Nottingham

    gold star.

     

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  • Carlos Vigo this is due to the person who made the segment, since they doubled back past the start point, the segment averages there time over the whole length of the segment even though almost half of it was never done by riders getting the segment, effectively doubling their average speed. It's an error on the part of the segment maker rather than Strava. If you look at the riders GPS etc, their actual speeds were closer to 50kmph

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  • How about asking the USER to confirm a new KOM?

    Many people get a KOM because they forget to turn off their GPS at the end of a ride.  They are probably unaware that they are KOM.  If we could have Strava simply show them the KOM, and ask if this was real, (and for biking, ask if it was an e-bike), many of the false KOM's would go away.

    Of course, that would mean that Strava would need to add the ability to "Remove a Ranking" from a segment.  (today, the only way to remove a segment is to delete the whole activity).

    Thoughts?

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  • I understand that strava segments are a good way to motivate and train.
    In the case of the segments for BTT, these usually suffer a degradation over time, especially the more pronounced the unevenness is, I think it would be a good idea to add a category of the current king style, which reflects the best times of the last 6 approximately months, I know that in the paid version you can see those of the year, it is one more piece of information, although it seems more correct to me that it was from the last 12 months since the first months of the year hardly provide information for most segments which are not done often.
    I know I'm not a subscribed user, but I'm making this comment suggested by a colleague who is.
    Since I'm here, I'll take the opportunity to suggest launching another type of cheaper subscription and with less information for those of us who are happy to be amateurs, even an economic subscription that only offered statistics haha.
    All the best,
    David

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  • Hi Skye Manu thanks for surfacing this, we understand the importance of these leaderboard options. We've deployed a fix for this issue and the filtered leaderboards are back up and running.

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  • What is the point in subscribing to the Leaderboards when it is obviously that the list is full of fake results????

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  • I'd like to see a separate category created for time trial bikes.  It seems near impossible to compete with them on a road bike and, in these parts, they pretty much hold all the top spots on leaderboards, including KOM's/QOM's.  

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  • Has anyone noticed a recent change in the minimum length of bike Segments ?  I have created many segments over the last 4 years and by trial and error I have found the minimum length is 300 metres (I get the actual length from the excellent VeloViewer companion app which gives more precise data than is reported in the Strava web data).  A couple of weeks ago I created a Segment that was 308 metres without a problem.  Today I did the same road in the opposite direction and tried to create the reverse Segment.  However, I kept getting errors saying it was too short while I gradually lengthened it.  I couldn't save it until the length got to 505 metres.  Has Strava recently increased the minimum Segment length from 300 metres to 500 metres ?  If so, why ? (I haven't seen a lot of requests from Strava subscribers asking for such a change).  If Strava have done this can they please revert to the 300 metre limit (yes, I know there may be some small inaccuracies with time and speed measurement over such a distance but I'm happy to live with it)

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  • Ian Barton

    Frankly until Strava get a bit stricter on GPS data, shorter segments are totally meaningless. You can gain 9s on each end of a segment currently. In 2022 this kind of tolerance is ridiculous. Reliable GPS data is easily obtainable for all athletes. Strava should update policies first and then revert back to 300m.

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  • Segment leaderboard for RUNNING on STRAVA are totally useless.
    Strava has to find a way to detect people that record a bike ride as running. Or even a scooter or other vehicle ride. I live in a very tourist city, Rio de Janeiro, here the running segments are all full of bike rides and electric scooter rides. And dont think it would be hard to Strava to detect it automatically. For example, comparing the pace with previous running pace of the same athlete... or even comparing the heart rate of the activity to see if it is reasonable. Nobody runs at 2min per km with 120bpm.
    I try to report the activities that clearly are wrongly registered, but STRAVA blocks me after some few reports, as if I was doing something wrong. 
    Strava Segment Leaderboard are what keeps us using the platform, Strava MUST open its eyes on it.

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  • continuing, I think Strava is loosing its main attraction to me. As I love to see the running leaderboard on the segments I Strava does nothing to identify people riding bikes or vehicles and registering as running. An worse, Strava blocks me for reporting too much activities! 

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  • I forgot... the Bullets and Numbers paragraph options don't work on the forum.
    In the previous post it should read...

     

    ... both of these:

    1.  Default athletes to ...

    2.  Automatically detect ...

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  • Ian Barton

    So it sounds like you have encountered the exact same issue. Because Strava regard taking a GPS position every 10s as totally legitimate and they round points only within segments, you frequently see people starting segments multiple seconds ahead.

    For example;

    Rider records a point at 0s, then a segment starts at 1s, then they record their next point at 10s.

    Strava deems them to have started the segment at the 10s point and thus they start with a 9s advantage.

    This can also happen at the end point too.

    Now I do agree, this is quite unlikely. I'm looking at a real example here where an athlete has a GPS track with gaps varying from 1s to 8s, e.g. 2:01 2:08 2:09 2:17 2:19 

    So if a segment starts at 2:09 then that's totally accurate, but if a segment starts at 2:10 then they get a free 7 second advantage. There are a lot of random factors at play so it is very unlikely that someone will get a big advantage at both ends, but let's ignore the worst case scenario of 18s, even a few seconds unfair advantage can be crushing on a short segment.

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  • Craig W.

    Thanks for the comments.  You mention that flagging (and disqualifying) a whole Activity due to a problem with a single Segment can be harsh - I see the point of the flag is to alert the athlete to the problem and they then have a chance to remedy it.  In the case of a GPS anomaly this can be addressed by splitting the ride and cropping out the offending data, so typically only one Segment is lost and the rest of the Activity is retained 

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  • Strava leaderboards have been really slow to update recently - on the order of hours to days (even with segment refresh). It’s a bit annoying -  are the any engineering efficiency gains to be made such that when a person uploads an activity with a segment leaderboard accomplishment, that is reflected on the leaderboard in a matter of minutes rather than hours or days?

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  • Ian Barton

    I'm totally with you that segments of 300m should be allowed. GPS accuracy is getting better and if anything this should allow even shorter segments.

    However, Strava need to be better at insisting upon good quality GPS data from users, if those users expect to get places on leaderboards.

    I can understand in the early days of Strava they didn't want to discourage users from using the platform if their GPS wasn't very good. But in 2022 even an affordable smartphone can provide really consistent reliable data.

    Strava should scrap the 10s rule and apply much stricter criteria when awarding leaderboard spots. There are far too many people with undeserved XOMs because they got lucky on GPS.

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  • Sorry if I'm being stupid but . . . the format of group leaderboards seems to have changed.

    It used to show total distance, longest single distance, average speed, and total vertical ascent, all of which I found interesting.

    It now seems to have changed to just show total ride time, total swim time, total run time etc, no mention of distance, speed, or ascent.

    Is this just a setting that I've selected by accident ? If yes, how do I reverse it ? I've looked but can't find it. If it's not something that I can re-configure, please can we have the old style back ?

    Thank you . . .

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  • I'm not sure if this is the correct place to put this but here goes; Can we please merge the Segments for biking and E-biking? I'm not suggesting merging the leaderboards because obviously that wouldnt be fair, what I mean is that the segments are still the same. I have a regular pedal bike and an E-bike and it's a pain in the butt having to create new segments for all of the existing segments that have already been created on the biking part of Strava. I would like to be able to compare my efforts between the two sports and against my friends regardless of whether I am on an E-bike or bike. Surely it wouldnt be hard to just copy-paste or merge the two databases of segments? Again, I'm not saying we should merge the leaderboards, but the two sports shouldn't be so separated. On the descents there isnt much difference between a bike or E-bike and it would be cool to see the two leaderboards side by side. It feels like segregation between those who ride bikes and those who ride E-bikes. 

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  • Please don’t segregate Ebikes from regular bikes. I understand that the leaderboards need to be separate but the segments themselves should be the same. I’ve been biking for years and making segments or using existing segments in Strava but now I have an ebike and all of the segments I have created and the wealth of other existing segments are gone. The ebike side of Strava is incredibly bare. Almost every time I go for a ride I have to create new segments. This is ridiculous. Ebikes are not an all new sport they are just a variation of bikes and should have the same segments. I think it would also be useful for the leaderboards to be somewhat integrated such as having “All Time”, “All Time Ebike” so you can compare times side by side. I can’t even see my friends times to compare with my own. This needs to be fixed ASAP. It’s really destroying my interest in Strava if I can’t compare with my friends or even compare with my own times on a regular bike (I still own both) on a segment.

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  • Jason Lamoreaux I would think maybe a button you could click that says snow vs dirt maybe. Anything would be nice instead of having the top 50 riders being riders in the snow on our local trails.

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  • It would be a very good addition if we could filter the winter month from the summer. Since fatbike is a completely different sport, the downhill sections are most of the time faster than in summer and vice-versa for the climb. It creates some bizarre leaderboard were all the fastest time are in winter. The exact opposite is also true for the climbs...

     

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