Achievements: personal records, top 10, XOMs, best efforts, etc.

This is the post for all feedback and feature requests related to Achievements. This includes personal records, top 10, XOMs, Best Efforts, etc. 

 

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  • Could we either have the ability to choose the summary statistics, or optionally include walking in the running statistic? You have Bike/Shoe/Water statistics, but if I log a shoe-based workout as a "walk" it doesn't show in statistics.  What would really be great is if you provided statistical summaries for all the sports you let us log.  Thanks for listening.

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  • Would it be possible for when we are on the segment finder page to show the segments we currently have the crown on in a different color? I believe this feature would a massive hit. That way people can know exactly which segments they currently have the fastest time on in map format.

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  • Hi

    Lately I have been using my e-bike and using the E-bike feature when i log my rides. I still get on the leaderboards, this did not happen before. Why?

    It is messing up my PR and segments, really annoying when i use my regular bike.


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  • Create yearly trophies on segments...Some of the "All-Time" PRs are no longer accurate as the trails change over time and are unattainable or completely inaccurate.

    This way, this could be a cool feature to see how many yearly trophies you can capture and add to your trophy count within your profile along side of challenge trophies. Gives people a push and new option to chase each and every year

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  • Top 12

    Like many others have asked, please add top 10 trophy case.  But in addition, I'd like to be able to search segments where I am currently in place 11 or 12 so that I can go out and attack those to see if I can improve my results.  This is one of the main reasons I pay for Strava service but it is not currently as motivational as it could be.   Again, I looked at your API but do not see a way I can add this feature myself.  

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  • David R.B. - Yes, you just "flag" the activity and note why you are flagging it.  Strava will send a notification to the person and they can validate it or not.  You just have to open their activity on a web browser and then click on the three dots on the lower left and select "flag".

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  • You should be able to view your PRs by power, in addition to time. Time is subject to a whole host of variables (traffic, lights, wind etc.), but power is amuch better metric as tracking consistency. For those who have a power meter and upload power data you should be able to rank segment PRs by your power files as well as your time.

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  • Egil Orndal

    January 20, 2021 08:20

     

    Agreed. That is what the CROP feature is for on every activity (tools menu) so that the athlete can edit and remove the part done in a car. Problem is that so many athletes do not know it is there, or how to use it and Strava does not send out notifications to users on such things.

    ( It is also useful to remove the start and end of your activity before making public so people can not determine where your house is. )

     

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  • Don’t know if it’s been addressed, I would like the ability to view all my top 10 finishes on all segments completed, you can see all KOM’s achieved, if all KOM’s can be shown don’t know why top tens can’t be .

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  • Hi,

    I think it would save time for both user and Strava support team if you allowed users to remove Best Efforts that are inaccurate.

    Let's be honest we are all dealing with GPS issues. We can try and reduce any inaccurate recording of data, but in reality it will happen to everyone.

    It seems pointless having Strava support team deal with this enquiry when it can be simply removed by the user.

    Regards,
    Dan

     

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  • ^ segment leaderboards are already filterable by all time/this year, overall, age, gender and weight ...how many more "levels" do you want ?

    And how would you put people in categories ? If you use an official category, which I assume your example of Diamond, Bronze is, they will not be universal across the world.  IMHO, letting people compare their performance against others in the same age or weight group, as well as overall, should be more than enough.

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  • E-bikes in MTB segments and/or Bike activities in run segments

    I suggest that you implement an Artificial Intelligence policy in the analysis of segment achievements. The mountain bike segments are being invaded by ebikes, as well as some of run activities that are made by bicycle.
    It is not difficult to do this analysis and correct this problem. I know that I can flag the activity and I do that. But the number of wrong activity types are growing. I'm suggesting that you can implement some type of analyses using artificial intelligence to do that work.
    I inform you that I am extremely unhappy with the situation, so the premium subscription for me no longer makes sense, as I use live segments a lot and it's not funny anymore and loses all its functionality.

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  • Rather that demand some form of AI to determine who is using an ebike, I want to ask "can I stop being accused of riding one?"

    I did a short ride today on a '94 stumpjumper - 2 miles at 6mph and yet still I'm being accused of being on an ebike. Why me? Is it a naive "maximum power output" threshold I'm triggering? 

    https://www.strava.com/activities/5095678529

    Trying to work out what is e-bike vs pedalled is going to be hard, but while I thought it was amusing the first time I was accused of being on a battery, it gets a bit repetitive after a while. I don't have an ebike, if you look at my time on any segment vs the value 8 years ago -it will have got worse.

    If is just power, how about including: heart rate, history PR on the same climb. And maybe consider a journey with an average speed of 5.6mph isn't likely to be involving a motor

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  • Improve accuracy of Estimated Best Efforts by including elevation as a factor

    I was recently looking at a run upload that seemed suspicious. What caught my eye was that despite being a run of over 30 miles, the runner achieved elite-level best efforts in the 1k and 1mi distances. I considered flagging, but on further inspection of splits I discovered that every anomalous fast mile was performed over an elevation drop of 100-170 feet. While this made the run itself seem more likely genuine, it also showed that the best effort estimation does not discriminate based on grade. Best efforts can be an interesting way to represent a runner's strength when they don't have verified PRs, but they can be misleading too if a runner is hitting their best marks on massive downhills.

    The easy solution might be to just not calculate best efforts on sections with negative grade beyond a certain threshold, but of course this would disfavor runners who regularly train in hilly regions. Alternatively, perhaps you could make use of the grade-adjusted pace tool you already have and translate GPS data to a flat effort estimation.

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  • With the increasing popularity of e-bikes, segment achievements are becoming more and more meaningless for true athletes. Unless Strava does something to distinguish between genuine segment efforts on human powered bicycles and those using e-bikes, this app is becoming less relevant to those who helped make it great in the first place.

    All too often, e-bike riders are uploading their activities as standard cycling activities instead of an e-bike ride. Of course there is a space for e-bike riders on Strava but more and more, regular riders are constantly getting alerts that an e-biker has taken their KOM. It's very disheartening for those who use the app as a training tool towards fitness improvements.

    I appreciate that it will be very difficulat to design an app to detect between a genuine bike ride and one done on an e-bike, but I do have a suggestion that I feel is one that will help cut down on the number of incorrectly logged ride actitivities.....
    The default ride category following immediate upload of a cycle activity should be switched to "e-bike". This way, riders who have genuinely ridden on a self-propelled bicycle can switch their activity accordingly. These riders, due to their dedication to fitness are more likely to log their activity correctly than the casual e-bike rider who either is not quite as tech savvy, can't be bothered or who just likes causing other cyclists anguish.

    It's an interim measure that will resolve a lot of the frustration currently eperienced by both fitness cyclists and e-bike riders. It equates to less KOM loss chatter to self-powered cycle riders and less flagging of e-bike riders. A win win all round! I hope you agree and see to it that this change has mileage. Thank you.

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  • Strava please create a view to allow us to see where we are currently ranked on Segments.

    I imagine the existing 'Segment Search' table with "KOM, Best Effort, Leaderboard Rank" added to the table, with the ability to search by your current rank or a range, ability to search by time difference from KOM, etc.

    This concept is raised in some form several times in this thread and would greatly improve the user experience with Segments and best efforts. It can help people find segments to target for the KOM or for personal improvement.

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  • Hi Laura Flint! Thanks for your feedback on adding an option for our users to remove inaccurate best efforts that are caused by poor GPS data. I'll share your suggestion with our Product Team for future improvements. In the meantime, I went ahead and created a support ticket for you so that we can take a look at the activity in question and remove the recent inaccurate best efforts you mentioned. Thanks!

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  • bike rankings; why not fastest 25-50-100-150-200k (like the compare-function for running)?

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  • Please can you make it possible to view achievements by equipment. I'd like to be able to compare my performance on multiple bikes. To be able to see the following would help:

    1 - PRs displayed by bike

    2 - Segment time comparisons by bike.

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  • Last week I was informed I set my 3rd best time for 400m. That info is super helpful but it just left me looking for more, especially what is my best 400m time? 

    1) When you post this is the 3rd best time you should also post a link to the 1st best time

    2) It should be listed in the best times or in a new insights tab that lists all your best times and graphs them over time.

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  • Why is it not possible to see my "best efforts" to compare to the current one? For example, if I get "2nd best estimated Half-Marathon effort" I expect to be able to click on it and see other efforts, when they were etc., similar to segments.

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  • Hi ! 

    In our profile under statistics, we can see our very best PRs, but since Strava give ''medals'', could we also have a way to see what our top 3 performances are for a given distance ? 

     

    Thank you, 

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  • night time segments ? Sorry, but IMHO that's just a waste of electrons. From a practical point of view, first you will have to convince Garmin, Wahoo, and everybody else whose head units recognise Strava segments that they have to rewrite the software in their head units to ignore day segments at night, and vice versa. If you just use the Strava app on your phone, well Strava can do what they want with the data but how are they going to calculate day or night rides ? You really think their servers have the capacity to work out if it is dark or light when you ride ? What happens if you ride in to a state/province that has a different time zone ?

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  • Carolyn Elliott

    It's really simple KOMs are for men and QOM's are for women. Strava is extremely even handed in it's approach. Either there should be no distinction at all, or we should keep the current system.

    Strava does not treat a KOM any differently to a QOM, they are equal. To suggest otherwise is frankly sexist. You seem to be suggesting that there is a hierarchy and that a QOM is somehow inferior to a KOM.

    Perhaps there could be an XOM or something but this would always be identical to either the KOM or QOM, so I'm not really sure I see the point. Getting a QOM is just as much "credit" as a KOM, be proud of that.

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  • Crispin H.

    Night time achievements sound like a lot of bother.

    Light levels can't be calculated purely on time of day and frankly many segments are likely to be faster in the dark due to lack of traffic, etc.

    There are much more important things for Strava to address before this sort of thing is even considered.

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  • Carolyn Elliott - I really don't see why they should change anything.  It seems very simple.  KOM is defined as KING of the mountain, QOM is defined as QUEEN of the mountain.  They are simple gender notations, nothing more.  Nothing is saying KOM is better in any way than QOM.  Why would a female want to be listed as a King?  If you look at the leaderboard and a female has the fastest time, it lists the QOM at the top of the leaderboard where it belongs.  I would say that stands out more than if it were tagged with "KOM" and overlooked by most assuming it was a guy (because it says King of the Mountain, not because it is at the top of the list).

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  • 8k needs to be added as a PR distance. It's one of the most common collegiate level running distances, and is popular at road races as well.

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  • Give up section records. 

    Something there is GPS hiccup that makes you have a great record for a particular section but you know it's just that a GPS hiccup. A way to give up that section record without putting the whole race private will be a great way to keep a fair section score for all.

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  • @kev fisher - if you make a segment of the entire route, you can use the segment “compare” feature. Just click on “ compare effort” and then sort by your own activities and select which ones you want to compare. It will work similar to the flyby and show you where along the route you were faster or slower.

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  • Amaury

    I think what Ian is getting at is that KOM now seems kinda redundant.

    The KOM/CR tab shows both, but what this means is that it obscures where a (male) athlete doesn't hold the CR and is perhaps only 2nd or 3rd all time.

    Many (male) athletes will feel that "only" holding the KOM and not the CR is not a "real" KOM.

    For a lot of very competitive athletes the whole KOM tab is quite important to them, but the current functionality of the list is very basic.

    I would also add that from a female athletes point of view knowing which QOMs are also CRs would be very welcome. Currently the only way to find out is to click through hundreds of QOMs to check manually. This is obviously very tedious and causes extra server load.

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