Achievements: personal records, top 10, XOMs, best efforts, etc.

This is the post for all feedback and feature requests related to Achievements. This includes personal records, top 10, XOMs, Best Efforts, etc. 

 

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  • TL;DR: I would like to have a button to re-estimate (and correct) the elevation of a ride.

    I noticed that some of my (older) rides heavily over-estimate the elevation. The interesting bit is that if I download the .gpx file, delete the ride and upload the identical track again, the elevation is shown correctly. This tells me that 1) the .gpx file created by my device was correct and 2) there was a change in your backend code on how the elevation is computed. This change is certainly for the better, I also observed that the elevation for my recent activities seems very accurate. 

    I would like to be able to trigger the re-estimation of the elevation without deleting and re-uploading the activity. In that case, all meta-information (kudos, pictures etc) are lost and it involves a lot of manual work. It would be great if there would be a small button "re-estimate elevation" or so.

    I am aware of the FAQ answer about this (https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001294564-Elevation-on-Strava-FAQs#:~:text=Click%20on%20the%20%22Elevation?%22,previous%20automatic%20elevation%20correction%20failed.), however, in all my cases there is no "Elevation (?)" button shown. From the FAQ this tells me that the elevation *should* be correct, but unfortunately, it is not.

    For an example, see this ride: https://www.strava.com/activities/1415783911
    The ostensible elevation is 3200, the real one is about 2000.

    Is this a known issue? Have you experienced similar mismatches?

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  • Situation: I wanted to reach out about an alarming, and aggressively targeted situation happening to one of my cyclist friends who is a woman of transgender experience. During her transition, and changing her gender on the app, it seems that her rides and segment crowns have been reported and flagged.

    Why this is important: I can't imagine this is the first time such bullying and targeting has happened to riders on this app, and I'm hoping we can use data to better protect and be allies for these important community members, rather than allow behaviors that push them away from an activity which we all derive great community and enjoyment. Not only do many cyclists of trans experience go through immense stress simply breathing in this world, but now they are forced to handle the stress of an app blocking them. An app, that can create and support positive movement. 

    What I think could help: if Strava technology can recognize that their was a recent change in gender, a tool/code can be put in place to immediately address or notify the Strava team if there is a mass (or any) amount of flagging taking place on their account. The reason this is important is to prevent bullying and create a smoother, supportive transition. I must also note in the design of this feature to bring in other opinions beside my own (as I am a cis white woman).

    I would be certain Strava and it’s progressive and inclusive culture, is working on some sort of code or way to make this situation much better for our trans sports community. Thank you for helping!

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  • Hi Brian Fessenden - I agree with the concept that a XOM is worth more if more athletes have attempted the Segment.  Maybe this could be reflected with a "Gold" XOM if the Segment has been attempted by at least 1000 people, "Silver" if between 100 and 1000, "Bronze" if between 10 and 100 and "Plastic" if less than 10 ?

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  • Hi, I have a suggestion for you. 

    I want to see, when biking or running, which segments that are new to me with some visual indicator. The reason that is important is because it helps distinguishing between a new segment (first time) vs. those that I did in the past but didn't get any achievements in this activity.

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  • It’s a straight forward question: do you think the Strava KOM/QOM activity is a competition? If you answer yes (as I would) then it doesn’t make sense to be able to get a KOM/QOM crown by simply creating a segment that only you have ridden.

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  • please add a way to quickly view all of my top 10's. why bother showing the trophy in the achievement section of each ride and no way to view all of them? i only have a hand full of koms, but im on a lot of the  top ten lists in my area, but the only way i can share that is to screen shot each segment page. at my age and weight making it onto top 10 lists IS a kom for me...

    maybe add it to the kom list tab, or give it its own tab like the local legend tab...

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  • Last week I posted the idea of counting the total number of KOMs (QOMs or CRs) per person. Additionally, I think it can be a great step forward if the KOMs are enriched with flags referring to the country in which the Segment is located. In other words:

    In the KOMs overview, I would like to see a flag of the country in which the Segment is located, and ideally the option to filter by country. It will allow me to see in which countries the KOMs are located at a glance.

    The reason that is important: by this, the App will be more attractive and the competitive part will only be greater, as there will become a new challenge regarding the KOMs: take as much as unique flags as possible!

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  • There seems to be a problem with top 10 places today. I don't think they are being displayed on the information for a ride. I got a new second place overall and it is displayed just as a PR. I wouldn't mind, but I don't get many of these!

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  • I would like to have an option to only see my stats against a time period. On 9/7/19 I was hit riding and nearly died. I am back riding but due to the amount of trauma my body suffered (14 fractures including back and pelvis, now have arthritis) I will likely never accomplish what I had. But I would like to see how I am progressing as the “new me”. I don’t want to lose my historical data (or QOMs) but at this time my only option appears to create a new profile.

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  • @Tantetan B. - I just posted requesting something similar. I was nearly killed riding. My 12 years of data I want to keep but want to see how I am improving. Maybe we’ll get someone at Strava to consider it. Good luck on your return!

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  • Hi Amanda P.: If would strongly agree with you if she is harassed by bad comments in this regard. But the flagging I don't see as bullying as in sports born men mostly have clear advantages in muscle mass than born women and they have that advantage still years after the transition. Of course something has to be done so your friend can carry on competing in leaderboards. But that shouldn't be in the protected leaderboards for born women as that would by highly unfair. I don't have any other suggestion than Strava making a third category besides men and women.

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  • Hi.  I wish to suggest that, when invoked, the Refresh Activity Achievements tool only consider data older than the date and time of the activity being refreshed.  I used this tool today on an activity that was a few days old and the refresh stripped the activity of previously flagged PRs and even of a top ten placing (very frustrating).  This would be useful for preserving achievements history.

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  • Hi, Strava!

    I want to be able to tell whether a PR has been scored on a long-established segment (for which I may have many results and where achieving a new PR is hard) or something recently created (where I would have few results and a PR is more achievable, but less valuable).

    I suggest that this could be supported simply by displaying on a ride's Segments page the date of creation of each segment.

    This would be valuable for spotting real, long term trends.

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  • bike rankings; why not fastest 25-50-100-150-200k (like the compare-function for running)?

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  •  rankings; full of bad activities or straight up cheaters

    Why isn't there anybody able and trusted to remove those from rankings?

    It's very bad having to see those kind of 'results' in the rankings from  the beginning of the month and staying there without being removed, despite messages and flagging.

     

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  • This might be a weird request for you all: I would like a switch somewhere (preferably on my gear) which makes me refrain from grabbing the KOM on a section. I don't want XOMs!

    Skip to the conclusion if you don't feel like reading.

    MOTIVATION

    The situation is as follows: Throughout my whole life I did explosive sports (basketball, martial arts). I'm tall too (close to 2m), because of this "mix" I was almost 120 kg at my fittest. Alongside that I've been running and road cycling until my late 20s, when I stopped running due to knee issues and eventually also had to sell my Pinarello because of constant problems in my upper back/neck. And then you're stuck: No more sports left.

    I'm cutting the story short here, but a few years ago, I had gotten quite chubby and I wasn't enjoying it. Then I switched work to a city 30 km away, and the company has a shower for employees. Just before that, I had gotten into recumbent riding and suddenly I had a motivation to do so, too. 

    Since then my life has changed: My car often goes untouched for weeks, my sheds are full of cargobikes, open recumbents and faired recumbents (velomobiles), and I've started to challenge myself: How far can I commute by bike within a reasonable amount of time? It's also challenging which of the bikes is the fastest on a certain section: The velomobile is heavy, uphill and acceleration are hard (even though I have a 2 kilowatt sprint again); in cities my open high racer is a LOT faster, because it's so light and agile. In cold weather and/or into a headwind, the velomobile is fantastic; speed on a 7 bft. tailwind is maybe 30% higher than it is in the other direction, into a 7 bft. headwind. Running a flat and then changing a tube (max. 10 minutes of work on the velomobile) is actually noticeable in the travel time on an 80 km commute, that's how consistent the travel time is in that thing. By the way: yes, I have been passed in the velomobile, by roadies on a tailwind, haha. It's possible when the windspeed in gusts is higher than your own speed, so from around 5 bft. 

    Since I'm back on my A-game now, I have become something that isn't too common: A recumbent rider that is under 40 and that can put out over 300W. The result on the high racer is constant KOMs when I push it hard. Even though I don't have segments in display on my Wahoo, I average over 40 km/h on commutes every now and then and I've had rides with as much as 15 in one run.

    Still, it's a bike, not a velomobile. And, as much as I liked it when I was a "roadie", I like to compete with the rest of the rare breed of fast recumbent cyclists and compare segments, so I leave some hard and max effort rides open for everyone to view. And then I get flagged. A LOT. So much that I guess Strava employees know me by name now; they switch my rides back without question, and block them from being flagged again. 

    The velomobile? I ride that on bike mode too, but leave those rides "followers only". Reason to do so is the fact that I want to compare segments afterwards between different bikes: I want to see what are the fast bits and what are the slow bits of my ride, to select the right bike under the right circumstances, optimize my route and dose my power better. The velomobile mode, however, uses it's own segments, there's not so much of us around yet so it's quite empty, and if you create too much segments you're banned from creating new segments. That plus having to switch the ride from sport "Ride" to "Velomobile Ride" afterwards are annoying. Sometimes I also ride speed pedelec too (because 800km/week is a bit much, haha); if I want to track those rides I'd have to administer another set of segments. And if we make it completely fair, I'm missing a Mountainbike Ride too, and a Gravelbike Ride, and a Cargobike Ride: my cargobike is 46 kg, unassisted, and has the aerodynamic design of a house, but I still managed to grab a 5th place on momentum and explosive power, and got flagged for it (probably by the roadie who tried to keep up during that burst, haha).

    CONCLUSION

    All of the above, my sporty friends, is my motivation to request a switch, preferably on my gear or even on my complete account, to refrain from having KOMs, but to be in the public leaderboards. 

    Since we have a climate to fix, there's nothing wrong with showing the public that there's actually faster ways of traveling on human power than a road bike. Of course, that road bike has it's charm and I even miss it every now and then, but make a little room for the weird, faster kid on the block too. On that note: GCN has actually set a great example :-)

    If you managed up till here: Sorry about the longread!

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  • In the last few hours I've had 4 Activities flagged as "in a vehicle".  None was in a vehicle (for any part). For 2 of the Activities the highest average speeds for Segments were 22 and 24 mph.  Has anyone else noticed something similar ? Maybe another user is being mischievous - if the flags are auto-generated there's something wrong when Segment speeds of 22 mph trigger a flag. 

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  • Why no estimated best efforts for cycling like there are for running. This is a glaring issue in my opinion.

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  • Please can you make it possible to view achievements by equipment. I'd like to be able to compare my performance on multiple bikes. To be able to see the following would help:

    1 - PRs displayed by bike

    2 - Segment time comparisons by bike.

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  • Estimated Best Efforts often end up showing trash data because of bad GPS recordings.

    If you contact support to get an activity removed from this calculation, they will remove it and reply saying that they won't remove another one. This is poor process and bad customer experience.

    Really you need to build this in as a feature to your platform. EBEs are an important part of the user’s profile and runs do not always happen where there is good GPS reception (in my case I had over a mile running through a tunnel under a river – and this is on a race course, so there is no way to choose another route). Therefore the issue needs to be solved on your side.

    It sounds to me like the issue you have is that it uses up man-time for your customer support team. Personally I pay £50 per year and this is basically the only reason I need to contact you.

    There are three solutions to this issue:

    1. Customer Support removes the offending activity
    2. Give the user a way to do it themselves
    3. Solve it with an algorithm

    Currently you're doing option 1 - that's not good for you, for data quality or for the customer. 

    If the problem is one of the resources required to manually remove these activities from the EBE calculation then just use option 2 – built out some functionality which enables the Strava user to remove them. Clearly there is a process for this already because CS can do it, you just need to expose it to the user - problem gone.

    Frankly this could even be done algorithmically because the GPS issues are clear on the map (this is option 3)– they appear as dead straight lines, or show as very short segments, etc. Even now for the offending run I can see that I have a peak pace over 1km of, literally, 1s/km – that’s fighter jet territory! So algorithmically it is comparatively easy to make this problem go away, but this is more work for you and may not pick up everything.

    Basically - give us a button, problem goes away.

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  • Last week I was informed I set my 3rd best time for 400m. That info is super helpful but it just left me looking for more, especially what is my best 400m time? 

    1) When you post this is the 3rd best time you should also post a link to the 1st best time

    2) It should be listed in the best times or in a new insights tab that lists all your best times and graphs them over time.

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  • Why is it not possible to see my "best efforts" to compare to the current one? For example, if I get "2nd best estimated Half-Marathon effort" I expect to be able to click on it and see other efforts, when they were etc., similar to segments.

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  • perhaps the lack of movement from strava on tracking top ten efforts in a personal tab is because a LOT of these details (and many more) are available on the VeloViewer app (powered by Strava)…?

    but still, nothing on the “Strava” app… (but they own the data!!)

    also, what about these other users that are constantly riding (EVERYDAY!!) ebikes on segments without properly indicating? even though they get flagged, or even called out socially, or, specific complaints WITH BACKUP sent to strava, these culprits continue to deteriorate our Strava experience among good friends and team mates.

    then there’s the hackers that don’t actually have profiles or feeds, yet the show up on leaderboards… how’s is that even possible without Strava responding?

    hmm…

    love strava, mostly… but irritating the leadership can’t solve some simple algorithms to pick these culprits.m, or, confirm data they already have the process for, into a simple accessible tab with a premium subscription.

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  • Hi Strava Support. Hi Jojo

    There is already a lot of cheated rides in my area.

    I wanna flag them all but flag limit activated and I can't flag any more.

    The flag limit block me to do right action for segment leaderboards.

    Please solve the problem immediately.

    Best regards...

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  • As an old runner, it would provide some extra motivation for me if segment achievements were awarded by age group. Not only KOMs as suggested somewhere above, but also for first, second and third position on a segment leader board in your age group. I know I can look this up by leaderboard filtering, but having these achievements show up automatically would be nice, and not too hard to implement I think. 

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  • filtering on 'full leaderboard' still doesn't work for many months.

    when i try to filter 'people i'm following' and choose 'today' or 'this week' or 'this month' - the list is empty, however these ppl did that segment (today or this week or month).

    It only shows something if i choose 'this year' or 'all-time'

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  • Better selection of achievements in the activity summary
    In the summary of the activity, most likely the only part of an activity followers look at there are personal achievements shown for 2 selected segments.
    How those 2 are selected, however, appears rather random.
    For instance, on one ride I took place 7/1500 riders for one segment I cared about. Yet, shown in the feed are segments where I got 1200/11000 (I did not even know the segment existed actually and do not care). 
    Bottom line: I would love to get the 'good' results in the summary and not some random result. 

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  • Just thought of something that is useful for all commuters (like me): I'm trying to find the most efficient route between two places. For this, it would be very useful to see my average cruise speed. For example, today I cycled to work and my average speed was 38.8 km/h, but I saw it well above 40 km/h on a number of sections. Whether this was a fast route or not however, depends very much on the weather conditions (temperature, wind etc.). 

    I know that I was cruising between 48 and 50 km/h a good number of times, but it would be valuable to see my average cruise speed (based on a number of variables, f.e. "cruise speed is achieved on straight sections after x seconds").

    If I ride a different route this afternoon, and manage 37.5 km/h average but my cruise speed is only 42 km/h, it's possible to make a good estimation of what route is more efficient, especially if my average power is also significantly lower than it was on the ride to work in the morning.

    Quite useful information: It can tell me to choose a longer but more efficient route if I'm late but feeling very strong, or a longer but more efficient route when I'm feeling particularly spent (to avoid acceleration).

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  • Hi ! 

    In our profile under statistics, we can see our very best PRs, but since Strava give ''medals'', could we also have a way to see what our top 3 performances are for a given distance ? 

     

    Thank you, 

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  • Display only segments on the current route in the route planner (Snap segments to route)

    During route planning I am often interested to see segments that lie on my route I could go for.
    Unfortunately the planning tool currently only displays some random selection of segments in the visible area. It takes ages to zoom in/out, move the region to get some segments displayed I can look at further -- namely those that lie on my planned route; and not "5 kms away from it, downhill and in the wrong direction".
    It would be a simple to implement filter that one could turn on with a checkbox to display only those.

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