New Run Activity Pages

Please leave us your comments and feedback for the new Run Activity pages here.

Great news, runners: your new run activity page on Strava.com is now live. We spoke to tons of you about what is important when viewing your activities and those of others, and have incorporated your needs and experiences as runners into this new page. 

Some of the new features:

  • Social Bar: We added a social bar to the top of the page, putting your activity title, description, comments, kudos, Instagram photos, and other athletes on your run front and center.
  • Sharing Module:  Easily share your run to Facebook, Twitter, Google+, email, or embed in your blog from the sharing module located at the top, left-hand corner of the page.
  • Key Stats: Distance, time, average pace and elevation are located between the Social Bar and Elevation & Performance Chart. Your mile/km splits from your run are located on the right-hand side of your activity map.
  • Top Results: Get a snapshot of your achievements for the run, including any goals you have accomplished, PRs for best efforts, and segment achievements. 
  • Elevation & Performance Chart: We’ve vastly improved the visual interaction for reviewing and scrubbing all your activity details. Use the cursor to look at your pace, elevation, grade adjusted pace and grade at any point during your run.
  • Premium Analysis: We've rolled out changes to the Pace analysis and distribution, including the new analysis specific to a race. Now you can designate a run activity as a "Race" and get interactive and granular data such as race splits and projected finish times. 
  • Segment Efforts, Stats & Comparison: We’ve optimized the Segment Efforts within your activity so you can quickly scan your most meaningful achievements. We display key stats of your effort along with your leaderboard ranking. And when you’re looking at another athlete’s segment effort, you’ll be able to compare your PR against theirs.

Some of the changes: There are aspects of the run activity pages that are not currently available, with some of these aspects scheduled to return, redesigned, at a later date:

  • Viewing the Performance Chart with 'time' as the x-axis: The new performance chart is set with 'distance' as the x-axis, and we plan to re-add the option to switch to 'time' in the near future (coming soon). 
  • Lap data from a Garmin device: Will now be visible underneath the Segments view in the left sidebar for Free and Premium users.
  • Segment Comparison: The ability to compare your segment effort with your PR and/or the CR for the segment has been removed, and will return after a redesign incorporating the features from http://raceshape.com/.
  • Run "Score": The run intensity score that appeared previously under the Analysis tab is no longer available, but will return when the calculation is more accurate. 
  • GAP for mile splits: We're currently working on our algorithm for GAP. Once the algorithm is improved, GAP split data will be displayed on our new Premium Pace & Race Analysis pages.
  • Best Efforts: The technology available used to generate Best Efforts was not up to our high standard of accuracy. Due to this, we will continue to display any PRs you receive for the next few weeks, but then we will turn off Best Efforts in its current form. Over the next few months, we'll continue to explore innovative and relevant ways to bring this feature back to all users once it has reached our high standards of accuracy. We apologize for this change.

Some Known Issues:

  • FIXED Performance Issues: We're hard at work improving the performance issues that have been reported. Improvements coming soon.
  • FIXED Hidden Segments: Hidden segments will be re-adding this week (we still need to add the ability to hide and unhide segments)
  • FIXED Elevation Correction for your Run: Will be re-added very soon.
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  • @Ellie - I'll do you a favour.... This is what you're missing;

    "Guys, we're really sorry about this. It's not good enough and we know that. We're working our tails off to fix it and we hope you stick with us while we do. Trust us, we'll fix it"

    It's not just a 'sorry about the issues'.

    Anywho; When Garmin Laps return, will they be free or premium?

  • All I see is I now have less functionality than I did before. I can no longer see my 400m/mile/10k etc splits for each run. I can't see my laps. I'm not interested in Twooter and Facebook, I just want to see how I'm performing.

  • @Elle thanks for the update.

    Can you let me know, will best results from a run (1k, 2k, 5k, 10k etc) be returning? Also, will GAP and elevation change on splits be returning. This is really quite important to my analysis, and sorely missed.

    Thanks!

  • Please bring back the lap view. Just turn it on for the meantime, no need to make it a paid feature or you'll send folks back over to Garmin connect...

    My two cents: While I appreciate the look and feel of the new UI, I think you guys may have changed too much in this release. You will get more useful feedback and increased user adoption if you iterate more frequently with new features and take us along the journey with you.

  • So are all these returning features going to remain free of disappear behind the paywall?
  • Could you please add y-axis numbers on the graph that shows pace / heart rate / cadence? Right now they're just three lines hanging out in space, and it's difficult to tell the scale. I know you can get the readings when you hover over the lines, but it's difficult to get an overall sense of the whole run that way.

    Also, my recent runs say that I'm burning anywhere between 700,000 to 1.5 million calories per workout. While I'd love to never have to exercise again, a more accurate count would be appreciated.

    Thanks!

  • Elle - thanks for the update.  It's good to hear that the ability to zoom into performance graphs will return.  Can I also plead for the return of 'Best Effort'? Whilst I appreciate you may have concerns over its accuracy, I think many (including me) still find it very useful.  Why not just mark it with a Beta label in the meantime?

  • Suggest to put performance improvement as the very top priority. It is actually difficult to make an objective judgement about the new interface because the super slow performance makes it untestable for all practical purposes.

  • looks like the run page just got quicker?

  • ....yes they've changed the way it loads. Seems that Elle/Strava are essentially ignoring most people's issues. Typical politician type responses, ignore the negative, accentuate the positive. We've taken $10, but look, we've given you some shiny beads. We can only speculate what the overall strava strategy is, but it doesn't look good. I'm assuming that they'll be offering refunds to us premium members as they are now not delivering the service we signed up for ?
  • @Elle, while you are working hard on rolling back the changes, can you all also put some work into the privacy feature, there a lot of customer feedback in this support  forum with very little action.  Thanks.

  • Seems to be loading much faster!  Kudos  :)

  • Second update of the day - we have released the improvements for Run page performace that I mentioned before. Please let me know if you still experience issues loading the new Run pages, especially with longer runs. I hope this helps improve the overall experience. 

    -Elle

  • I second what Elaine R Said!!

  • Stravites - my 50M run has now managed to load in a few seconds rather than the time it took me to run the distance ;-) A vast improvement.

    Still finding my way around the other stuff and second a lot of the comments about missing functionality. However - I like the Pace Analysis page (it has a similar feel to Garmin Connect's "Player" tab but with a nice zoom feature. 

    I've found that the list of Top Achievements is a bit of a red herring because as soon as you click on one you are taken to a page (Segments) with them all listed out. I can now click through the full list of segments and check each ranking pretty quickly with key info appearing on the right. I'd like to see the top 10 table though rather than just a placing - so I can see who is ahead without having to click through further. 

    The link for Create New Segment goes through to the old page for creating segments - but you've got some more performance issues loading the whole route again (OK it is large but much smaller than it would be for an average cycle ride!) in order to be able to narrow down the segment. 

    I think it is good that you are trying to fix stuff - but I wonder whether you, Strava, will make a statement about why the changes were introduced in such a haphazard (not very well tested) manner without any notification. Perhaps in future a warning would be nice and some acknowledgement to paying customers that you got it wrong this time. A free month's subscription should probably allow us to iron out the problems together?

  • People need to stop saying thank you for runs now loading... That's ground zero usability. It's not a feature.

  • @Elle - the "99 years ago" is only seen in under the "Details" heading of the "Edit your Run" page, if I click on the pen icon, or "Add a description".  It's only a minor bug of course, but I'm just mentioning it is still there.  If I click on "Add a description" on my run on Wednesday, April 3, 2013 then it says "100 years ago".  I've got a few grey hairs and thinning on top but I'm not that old!  :-D

    By the way, at this moment, in Firefox browser, some of my runs just appears as a page of text (but did work earlier today).  Good luck sorting this out... please in future let us test any major updates while leaving the old version available if possible.

  • Elle -- maybe you are reading every post, but you have ignored every one of mine in your responses.  I guess you do not want mountain runners on your platform. Maybe we are niche in the overall subset of runners, but you have taken away every useful feature, most primarily elevation gain per each lap and also VAM. You have constantly ignored my statements on the usefulness of VAM to running, maintaining your position that it is only relevant to cyclists and Strava's determination to update their glossary page to reflect VAM as a cyclist only feature. I do not understand why Strava hold the position that VAM is not useful to running. Running up mountains, I will clue you in --- we vertically ascend too! Wow - who would have thought. I know there are several hill climbing cyclists in your company i.e. Paul Mach, maybe talk to him and find out if they took away VAM from him how he might feel about that?  Yes there are other ways to determine climbing power, like a power meter -- but guess what, we can't attach one of those while running, so VAM is the best measurement we have.  If you took VAM off cyclists there would be a MAJOR revolt. You won't do it, because your employees are cyclists.  But you take it away from mountain runners - because you do not get it.  You are placing a stake in the ground with your stubborness indicating you prejudice against mountain runners....all I want is a satisfactory explanation, all you have given is ignorance.  You have not adequately explained your position why VAM is not relevant to running, you have just ignored me and stated you dont believe it is relevant and no reason why.   Maybe I am one of a very small minority of mountain runners on this platform and because there is only one dissenting voice, you can choose to ignore it. But mountain running is huge in Europe, and I am racing in Europe from three months including the vertical KM events and the Mont Blanc Marathon. I planned on promoting your platform and also wearing my strava jersey and shirt. I won't be doing this anymore, and I am sorry, but you just lost an opportunity to expand your platform into European mountain running.  Which I will clue you in on is huge and full of very passionate people who would embrace your platform.  Look up Kilian Jornet, find out his massive folllowing.  But I guess you don't really care about mountain running -- do you?

  • Apologies for saying thank you for the performance fix - it's only polite. I've been making up for it by telling anyone who will listen about the incredibly buggy software released. I talk about Strava a lot - to a lot of people - some might say I'm a Strava bore. This is from someone with 37 pages of QOMs/CRs. I don't think non-working code should be released like this - especially when people are paying for it. I still don't really understand what was wrong with how it was (but then I complain every time FB changes too).

  • Hi .,. any updates on progress??? 

     

    Now seriously considering reverting back to Sporttracks !!

  • Update #3 for the day: 

    • VAM is returning to segment effort pages tomorrow. You will see it listed just underneath "Ave Pace" for This Effort. 
    • Laps will also return tomorrow, and they will be Free. 
    • Elevation correction for devices with barometric altimeters will return tomorrow as well. 
    • We're going over your feedback about the Y-Axis scales on the Performance Chart, and are working on possible solutions to make the chart easier to digest. Thanks for the feedback. 
    Thanks!
  • The only other complaint I have is that the elevation is way too small at the bottom. It's difficult to see elevation very well because it is so compact at the bottom. It needs to be more spread out through the y axis. 

  • and I liked how it used to be more overlaid, especially the grade adjusted pace and the pace. Now they are too spread out to really accurately compare data.

  • Glad to see the list of updates - the return of VAM and laps are big.  I look forward to the y axis showing pace on the graph.  Might I suggest you overlay pace and GAP?  That is the easiest way to have a common scale, and makes the graphs larger and much easier to compare as well. 

    My other big ask is the return of the elevation by mile in the overview splits chart (to the right of the map).  For us trail runners, mile splits vary wildly due to elevation change.  The elevation per mile is critical data to understand WHY my pace is 7:15/mile one mile, and 14:00/mile the next.  Without it, the pace data is not very meaningful.  It is also nice to see more than 6 miles at a time - you could accomplish that by growing the map and splits chart vertically a bit. (Keep in mind, long distance folks and people training for marathons are going 15-30 miles routinely.)

    This is progress.  Still mourning the old layout, but given that Strava appears committed to this new course, glad to see that bugs are being ironed out.  I have a 50K this weekend with over 7000 ft of elevation gain.  I am hopeful that by Sunday I will be able to see the data with close to the same clarity I could previously.  Still wishing y'all would roll back until the new version is ready for prime time....

  • What about separate custom heart rate zones for running? I have my custom zones set up for cycling which are quite different then my run zones. This makes the heart rate analysis way off when I look at a run.

    Thanks,

  • Some constructive criticism from the comments section of one of my runs:

    I said:

    If Strava actually displays my run properly, you can barely discern any real changes in pace/GAP. You can't see your grade-adjusted pace splits, which is nice in a hilly place like Boulder. And that "if" is a huge IF: It takes the website entirely too long (on the order of minutes) to be able to actually display any run longer than 8-10 miles with all the (pointless) bells and whistles Strava decided we need. The only sort of cool thing is the elevation in the background. Turns out though, that shouldn't be crashing the page, because a plot of elevation is about the simplest thing I can imagine slapping on a website. The buttons for turning on/off the pace / grade-adjusted pace plot displays are needlessly flashy. (As you turn a feature on or off, the rest of the plot dynamically shifts and rescales in a little animation to make room for the new data in the plot.) I just tried to use one on my 30-miler and it nearly crashed the page. I guess the fullscreen feature is admittedly awesome. I'm just too scared to use it with any run longer than 10 miles, because I'm pretty sure I'll have to do a hard restart on my computer after it starts shooting smoke out the fan. I also hate that on the main page of a run, the "Top Results" are front and center, right in your face. Maybe that's the part some people care most about, but not me. I care about distance, time and elevation, which are stuck in the upper-right, time and elevation being in tiny font.

    Someone else replied:

    You're absolutely right, it's god awful! I can't even load my maps and run pages anymore without my computer going buggy! With how poor the new design is and the shitty loading, I would argue it makes me not want to use Strava anymore. Is this how they get us to sign up for the Premium account?


     In summary, this new run activity stuff tries to be too glitzy and ends up being garbage. There's too much focus on the wrong things ("top results" and neat tricks like the pace/GAP buttons, versus real statistics like elapsed time, distance and GAP splits). And I would ask why it crashes when I try to view a long run, but I already know the answer is all the unnecessary bells and whistles. If Strava can make the pages load properly with all the flashy extras, that's awesome. Otherwise, whittle it back to something manageable and functional. Please?

  • does anyone know how to view max HR for any session? or laps even?

  • I'm wanting to know:

    1 why the leaderboards are harder to access - 4 clicks from dashboard instead of the previous 2 clicks?

    2 why 'Top Achievements' is top and centre and not the ride stats and map - which are now top left and squished respectively?

    3 why elevation is now in such a small font, after all elevation has a major impact on pace?

    4 why people will thank Strava for the return of browser performance, VAM and Laps when we had all of these before the 'upgrade'?

    5 why no apology from Strava for this mess?

  • I was a free member but was about to upgrade prior to the changes........ As the changes have come into place I noticed a free trial of premium which I thought I would subscribe to get a feel of what I was going to get for my hard earned money..........

    With the new changes and despite having a premium account I feel I have less information than when I was a free member when we had the 'old site'.

    Unfortunately as the above feedback from everyone shows Strava have not consulted the users at all in any way shape or form the one thing I will say about the new site is that I think it looks more professional but that is really the only positive I can bring myself to give.

    Its disappointing because I moved from endomondo for similar reasons and have spent most of this morning researching the best alternative app.

    Minor tweaks always go down better than major upgrades.

    Good luck

    Matt

  • Per Ellie...Laps will return and will be free.

    THANK YOU Ellie! :-)

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