Feedback for Strava's new maps (OpenStreetMap)

See About our Maps for more info.

Strava has recently switched to maps powered by OpenStreetMap, which we understand is a significant change.

Strava is actively working with Mapbox (the open source mapping platform that supplies us with OpenStreetMap) to make sure we offer the best mapping experience for our athletes.

Mapbox gives us the opportunity to create customized maps that fit aesthetically and functionally with Strava. With open source data, errors or missing map assets can be fixed quickly and efficiently, creating the most detailed and robust maps for cycling and running. We believe in the potential and power of maps by OSM and we're focused on giving the Strava community the best experience possible. 

Where did Street View go?

Mapbox does not provide Street View functionality at this time. We realize this functionality was valuable for some athletes; we'll do our best to re-incorporate it when possible.


August 14th, 2015:

We’re 100% committed to making Strava better for our athletes, and we hear you loud and clear regarding this switch from Google Maps to OSM. We didn’t anticipate how strongly some of our athletes would react to the change and apologize that it was a sudden disappointment to some of you. We could have done a better job explaining our reasoning and bracing you for the switch, handling the roll-out, taking more time to work with Mapbox, etc.

 

It may not seem like it now, but we believe deeply that changing to OSM is the best choice we can make for our athletes and our company. There is enormous potential and creative flexibility offered by the new maps and we ask that you stick with us and continue providing feedback as we bring that potential to fruition.

 

Your reports on the quality of the maps, such as missing map data and satellite image quality, can be addressed. We are working closely Mapbox, our OSM map provider, on both satellite imagery and road data and we’re invested in improving your experience. By providing specific examples of satellite and road data, we can act quickly to update the map data.

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We've noted all your comments regarding street view, and understand how important it is to you. The top use for street view seems to center around segments, in viewing segment start and end coordinates as well as viewing the road surface and surroundings. Street view is still available when creating segments, and it may be possible to return street view to other areas of the segment experience. We will have more to share on this soon.

 

Our designers are compiling initial thoughts on how Strava can leverage certain styles, colors and shading to customize the map experience. We are already incorporating the existing feedback we’ve received here. Please continue to send us your feedback on how the look and feel of the maps can be improved.

- The Strava Team

 

August 21st, 2015:

When you visit a segment page, you can now click either endpoint of the segment to be brought to the street view for that location. Or, you can select one of the options from the map view menu (pictured below). 

This addition is not meant to fully resolve your concerns about the switch to Mapbox. We're doing the best we can to respond to your feedback quickly while still maintaining our commitment to elevate your map experience with Mapbox. It's going to take time and we ask that you stick with us, and we'll continue to take your feedback to heart and iterate whenever possible. 

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September 2nd, 2015

We've just updated our maps to support four languages: English, French, German and Spanish. Now, if you're traveling or viewing the map in another country, you'll be able to see map labels and place names in your language. 

How it works: If you have Strava set to one of the above four languages, you will see map labels in that language. For any other language that is not supported at this time, you will see the default map which displays regional language. To change your language preferences, use the menu at the bottom of any Strava page.

This map update also refreshes imagery for the Satellite map in select areas. 

 

October 22nd, 2015

We're excited to announce updated maps in collaboration with Mapbox, featuring an intuitive display of map data and activity-specific styling. Designed especially with runners and cyclists in mind, we focused on a visual experience that would relay the map information we believe most helpful to our athletes: 

  • Offset road labels for better visibility along activities
  • Visually distinct running and cycling paths
  • Highlighted pedestrian areas, outdoor areas, and parks
  • Vivid terrain styling and high-contrast mountain areas
  • Lower map label density for urban areas
  • Major highways and high-traffic roads de-prioritized in grey
  • Added points of interest most relevant to activity on Strava
  • Contour lines and elevation labels on satellite view

This is the first of several map projects we are working on as part of our ongoing goal to make your mapping experience on Strava more accurate, informative and rich. 

 

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  • Google Maps is the best. I don't know why Strava changed Google maps. Street View is necessity for create a segment and preview a maps.

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  • @Marco, I actually like OSM and have contributed info to it. I can tell you that where I live (rural Sweden) OSM is almost an empty sheet. Of course I could sit down and spend a lot of time (because it is time consuming with the tools available) and essentially draw my own maps. Why should I pay for that? I think it is boring, and it is exactly therefore I buy services to handle it for me.

    To say that OSM is better than Google maps, and we don't know OSM is a really brave statement ;-)

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  • @Marco Andreolli

    It seems like you didn't read what people are complaining about; it's not just about the loss of StreetView (though that is a big one!) OSM also has lower resolution satellite imagery compared to Google Maps. I'm also not sure what you mean by Google Maps not showing bike shops or paths as that information is there, even for my small town.
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  • @Niels Prösch Probably in your country there aren't many Open Street mappers (and I see, in effect there is poor detail) but where I live the different is huge, for street (any kind), path, place, building, shops, peek, mountain pass, alpine hut, rural building, mountain lakes, natural area (for example wood,scree, bare rook, glacier) and so on....

    And so I think the best thinks is choose if use OSM or Google Maps. But you can't tell that Google Maps is the best in any case for every use end every place (is not so!)

     

    @Joel Dudgeon OSM don't have  satellite imagery!!! it depens on what image Strava would use. When you use JOSM (or Potlatch) for mapping it use Bing satellite imagery but it isn't a obbligation!
     and in some case latest Bing image area are more detailed...

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  • Setting aside that there is no way to make up for the loss of Street View, here are my observations about the current state of the OSM settings for terrain and standard view:

    Terrain: The landcover is extremely blurred, no contour labels, the elevation data is also way over smoothed, and in general, the colours are dull.

    Standard View: Here the more detailed landuse data is used, which is good (over the blurred landcover data in the Terrain view), but the choosen colours are horrible. First of all, the green of the forest is lighter than the green used for the crops, which just does not make sense. Then, there is still no distinction in colour between the highways, primary roads, other main roads, and streets. These are only the most annoying ones, but I am happy to see that at least the image compression issues and the non retina compability was already solved in the past days. Lets keep improving this.

    I attach examples of the Alpe d'Huez region comparing the current OSM views in Strava to my proposed MapBox style which combines the terrain and Standard view. Also, unpaved trails are only thinner solid lines in Strava, not too different from streets, while in my proposal they are clear with a dashed marking (see road towards the South of the examples). Here is an interactive version too of my version: https://api.mapbox.com/v4/papics.ca6cf1f9/page.html?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoicGFwaWNzIiwiYSI6ImNmYWIxYWI5MDhiY2U2MWI0YjU3Y2RiZjcxYzYxYWE5In0.M_1aL6bF_fL_ZNvOONVKmQ#11/45.1283/5.8907

    I hope these things will be considered. (Or just bring Google back with Street View ;))

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  • @Péter I. Pápics

    Looks fantatstic! Hope strava will soon provide the same level of quality.

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  • Streetview has been invaluable in helping plan routes for road biking - I created a route using the strava route planner for a road bike ride on Friday and one of roads strava  took me down was unpaved and I ended up having to walk 1km through muddy farm lanes... I know there are other ways to get around this but have always found the strava routing/ street view combination really powerful - it will be missed.

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  • Losing Street View is a big bummer. But far worst than that is the lack of accuracy of maps in my region, plus the abysmal image quality of satellite imagery. It's a very stupid decision for my particular region.

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  • Some comments.

    The zoom level for the satellite map is so bad (at least were I live) that the maps are more or less useless for both track analysis and for making segments.

    I like openstreetmap and they are very good in the areas I use (much better than google in the forest) but the rendering used by strava is close to worthless, difficult to see the trails, no or a very small difference between different kinds of trails, no difference in summer trails and winter trails that not exist in summer, very strange color coding of different forests (I believe that natural reserves have the same color as golf courses...), no contour intervals. In short, I believe that it is the worst rendering (by far) of the OSM database I have seen. 

    I hope but don't really believe that most people understand that the bad OSM maps that strava use today is not due to that the OSM database and possibly maps made from it are bad and much worse than google maps in many areas but that strava for some reason has made bad maps from it.

    My guess are that good satellite views are not going to happen in strava in a long time (because my guess is that google is the best that are available world wide) but you should at least try to make a better OSM base map (and many already exist).

     

    I hope someone make a new mapflipper so that it is possibly to get readable OSM base in strava again.

     

     

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  • Strava I hope you've listened to EVERYONE on here that has said the lack of Streetview is a LEAP backwards for user experience. Won't be renewing my premium unless it's clear you actually listen to your paying users.
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  • Assuming this was a financial decision. I'm very disappointed in the removal of Streetview and would strongly urge Strava to re-consider the decision to remove support for Google.

    Satellite imagery from Google was much higher resolution in my area (Suburb of Vancouver) than OSM.

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  • This is a VERY bad move!! The new maps are crappy. Can't clearly see roads where I live. The colors are making it really difficult to recognize the real world compare to Google maps. We cant scroll zoom, we can't use streetview. And we can't even see where the segments starts and stops!! I have never been so furious about a design change on a website as I am now. Please listen to the users, Strava and bring back Google maps. Will probably use Garmin connect or some other site now. A good map is crucial, strange that Strava doesn't know this...
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  • Use street view constantly, not just for segments but from a safety point of view, familiarising myself with junctions beforehand etc. very disappointing from Strava, clearly putting profit making over needs of its users. Will be cancelling premium. 

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  • I find not being able to use gestures in resizing the maps when analysing or creating routes on my IOS device and windows touchscreen so frustrating. Why on earth they didnt ask premium payers, or at least put it out as a Beta or "X Factor" to try out. Seems like a cost cutting measure here, maybe to bolster profits... If they dont sort it then shall relinquish my premium membership before renewal.
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  • Strava has messed up a nice software by trying to save themselves a few bucks and keep more of the subscription fees . I bought a Garmin to work with Strava and then now this . If this is not fixed soon or reverted back to Google maps , rest assured I will be canceling my Premium subscription , as of right now I feel like I am being ripped off .

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  • New Satellite Map zoom is pathetic.  Really? 200m is all we get? Not going to see much landscape details at that distance!  Aerials exist at closer zoom levels, offer this to your members please.

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  • These new maps are terrible and big step backwards. Please return to using Google maps.

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  • It's unfortunate that Strava is doing away with Google maps. I've been using the service since the beginning and have always been a huge fan. I believe that Google maps currently has the best level of detail in roads, satellite, and street view in most places I explore. Since the update I've spent considerably less time using Strava since the new maps feel like garbage. I'm alright with small UI changes if the functionality improves, but when you change the UI away from something almost everyone is familiar with and remove functionality, you have made a poor decision. At the least, you should have kept Google maps until the new features are developed and release once everything is ready. 

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  • Im not happy with the change.  The zoom level is quite pathetic and the lowest level zoom pic for the area i was searching seems out of focus too. Bummer.

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  • Google Streetview is vital to check where segments start and end - when you're at home and planning a ride.
    Google Streeview is important to check the surface of the road, so I don't end up riding a dirt road on a roadbike.
    Google Streetview gave me the possibility to check where to turn when planning a ride, so I don't have to fiddle with the GPS on my phone.


    Now I have to open Google maps in another window to check all the things above. Bad user experience to force users to leave your site in order to complete the tasks that once where easily done on your website.

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  • Thanks Strava.  I'm now going to "focus on the road ahead" by using "Ride With GPS" where streetview is alive and well.  This is a massive own goal!

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  • Yet another unhappy customer.  I used the streetview a lot to check segments and close ups of junctions, road conditions, etc. 

    Maybe time to vote with my feet and cancel my premium subscription and just stick with Garmin connect.

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  • Why not let us have the option to use the maps we want? No way on earth will I ever pay for a premium subscription using an inferior map tool. Please change it back.

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  • I personally think this is a backward step. It's ok having the live segments on my Garmin, but what about when I'm browsing on my computer. The Streetview wS always a helpful tool, and Google Maps worked fine too.
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  • Great to see OSM being used, but Mapbox's default title theme has got to go.  It is not near as nice as the mapnik style used on the OSM site.  Pathways are barely visible, service roads are not rendered at an appropriate thickness and many features are not rendered at all.

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  • "Unfortunately, Google maps will not be returning to Strava even as an "on/off" toggle. We're focusing on the road ahead and giving the Strava community the best experience we can with Open Street Maps. "

    So if you are refusing to bring back Google , then when will we be able to view trail systems and trail names again ? When will functionality return ?

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  • This is bullsh*t.

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  • Hey Elle—my photos don't seem to be showing up on my activity maps since the Google Maps to OSM transition. Guessing (hoping?) that's a bug, since geo-data should be able to place them regardless of what tiles are used. They're still showing up on the activity page, just not placed at specific locations on the along the route.

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  • Love the idea of Open Street Map and the terrain map is pretty good quality.  There is some loss in functionality however, as the satellite resolution is pretty bad (North of Melbourne) and there is no Street View, so I can no longer work out which roads are paved and which unpaved unless I open a separate google maps session.

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  • The new maps are shocking. The lack of detail in the areas I normally ride (north of Leeds, England) is immediately obvious. Road and place names don't show up until very zoomed in (when you can't see the context), A-road names sometimes don't show up at all, there's a complete lack of landmarks to navigate by, all the roads are white with no visual distinction between a motorway and a B-road, and a lot of smaller roads don't even appear to exist. Very hard to route plan if you're looking to avoid big roads, which we *always* are, and while I didn't use Street View quite as much as others here, it was indispensable when I needed it. I never thought I'd say this, because Strava *was* the best, but I'll be looking for an alternative now. It's a shame you don't seem to recognise that Google Maps were a big part of the overall proposition. You appear to be *telling* us Google Maps won't be coming back, which comes off pretty arrogant. Just having the biggest database of segments doesn't cut it if the route planning is much less effective and it's harder to see where you've been. I'll be cancelling Premium.

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