Improvements for Gear section of Strava (Cycling)

I am at a crossroads with equipment list management. I am about to dump tracking all my components as I have seen no improvements in a very very long time. I switch around wheels and tires all the time and that tough to track the way it's currently setup here on Strava. But now I have recently cracked my frame and is being replaced under warranty. I will be moving all my component to this new frame, so this is where it will be a complete failure for me. How do I track going forward? Components are tracked by Frame and not individually.

 

Support Summary:

1. Allow components to exist independently from bikes/frames

Instead of limiting only one active version of each component per bike, components would exist as a "pool" and could be removed from a bike without being retired, could be "shelved" for any amount of time without accumulating mileage, and could be easily switched between bikes. Like different tiers - at the top level there is a group of frames, and under that is a group of components, any amount or type of components you wish to track. Then there is freedom to match the components to the frames in any desired way. 

2. Ability to add historical usage to a frame or component

As the system currently stands, bikes and components added to Strava are treated as new, with zero use. Of course, we know this is only the case a fraction of the time. For a functional gear tracking system there needs to be a way to add an item to the system with historical mileage/usage. 

3. Track Gear in hours as well as miles

4. Ability to set notifications for when a component reaches a certain amount of use (miles or hours)

5. Add maintenance records, or simply a notes field to any Gear item to keep track of when equipment was last serviced

Are there any additions, or major feedback trends that I missed? -Elle

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  • Please add the ability to add mileage to equipment Strava.

    If you have had equipment several years you need to be able to enter the starting usage when you start using Strava.

    Surely it can't be too hard to allow users to adjust/override usage for components?

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  • +1

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  • The message board for the gear section is the equivalent of a tree falling the woods. There is no one around to hear it. Strava has no interest in improving this capability. Maybe because it is not "cool" and doesn't deal with stalking other strava users or famous athletes. It won't generate advertising revenue or heat maps or people bragging about their KOMs. Clearly the business opportunities of connecting with bike shops who could update gear data when they service bikes is just too much work. The vast majority of updates that people on this board have asked for are  simple database table updates. If the development team were implementing an Agile software development method, they could have added small, easy incremental improvements over the last couple of years that that this customer section has been active....but alas, no. And worse, there is no active customer engagement process...just occasional platitudes from Customer Support. It's too bad, but improving the Gear section is just not remotely important to the business.

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  • Hi Strava,

     

    4 Years after the first post from Steve, nothing new regarding the Gear section.

    Someone from Strava could tell us if they think to to something on this ?

     

    Thanks for your answer.

    Philippe.

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  • It would also be great to be able to have only your rear wheel and tire gain mileage on a stationary trainer.

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  • In my opinion it's quite ridiculous that there isn't at least the possibility to add historical usage to components. It would be just one additional entry in your database and query to let us set an offset for each component... :(

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  • +1 I like the idea. It would be a great improvement for strava to be also a gear/component database.

    Thanks for working that way please

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  • You do wonder if they haven't got time for this what exactly are they working on? Strava to me seems I changed for years with lots of glaring omissions just left. So what exactly is happening? Looks like nothing from here. 

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  • Would it be that hard to just allow "unretiring" of gear? I know developer resources are limited, but surely it wouldn't take that much to make it possible to reactivate existing parts? The data for them is obviously still stored somewhere.

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  • "The data for them is obviously still stored somewhere" — I wouldn't be so sure about it. I happen to have a tool that accurately tracks gear usage using the same data I have in Strava and I found that some of my rides count against a different bike than they should. Whatever little Strava does for gear tracking, it does it wrong.

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  • It seems like Strava are treating this as an "all or nothing" deal in terms of focusing their one part-time software developer on other tasks.

    Sure, the #1 item in the original suggestion (separating components from bikes) would be cool, but may require some more serious development time.

    But it should be trivial to make a few tiny changes to the current system to make it *far* more usable:

    1. Add an end-date field to the component edit screen — so we can specify retirement date (and perhaps even un-retire a component, assuming they're stored in the same table)
    2. Allow components to be edited after retirement — so we could actually see/edit the notes field (which is currently lost to the ether when you retire a component, but would be useful to let us specify a retirement reason)
    3. Add a distance 'offset' for components — so we can easily track transferred or second-hand components

    None of these are algorithmically complex, and should each be a few lines of code. #1 and #2 should really be considered bug fixes rather than new features. But they'd change it from a system that's basically broken (if you don't enter everything immediately) to a really useful component tracker.

    The separation of components from bikes, time-usage tracking, etc would all be great features, but you'd cover most people's usage even with just the bug fixes noted above.

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  • for cycling an item 'cassette' is available, to monitor the wear. But frontsprocket(s) are not possible to register/add. Can you add this to the profile of the bicycles?

     

    chainrings are not listed in dutch menu-setting of gear. (Added may, 20th)

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  • "for cycling an item 'cassette' is available, to monitor the wear. But frontsprocket(s) are not possible to register/add. Can you add this to the profile of the bicycles?"

    It does exist. Refer to "Chainrings" item.

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  • Ignore this reply.  I was late to the party on "Frontsprockets" and had the same thing to say as Frank.

    Niels pointed out that the Dutch menus do not show Chainrings or equivalent, which should be rectified.

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  • Just wanted to add my voice to this request - the summary in the first? post by Steve Saeedi is exactly what I want to see from Strava gear tracking. I have a bunch of components, not all of which are new, which I swap onto and off various bikes over time. I'd love to be able to track their individual usage sensibly. 

    I'm surprised some enterprising developer hasn't added this sort of facility in the same way veloviewer does, with ride distances and durations coming from Strava, and the equipment management being done off-site.

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  • At least two enterprising developers did, including me. There was exactly zero interest in it (possibly because support.strava.com lost the attached images), so I never bothered to add a user interface.

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  • I made an app as well that tracks equipment and allows you to manually add other miles.  Also, you can  switch components between bikes and the mileage persists.  It's up at http://cycle-fyi.parseapp.com/.  

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  • Tomáš, I am actually interested, but I got lost in github, and have no idea where to start without a user interface.

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  • Johan, if you're interested, join the chat on gitter (link is at the top of README at github), we'll figure something out. I can build a windows exe or a docker image, that should be quite easy, or you can help me think of a way to provide some web-based interface that's usable and can be hacked together quickly.

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  • I would like to have the possibility to keep trace of my bike components life also having a list of the retired components life: example I would like to keep all the retired chains and tires so to understand how much they lasted. Currently, if I'm not wrong, Strava allows only one retired component: this prevent me to keep a proper register of the parts life..

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  • Strava should prioritize getting the Gear section better, rather than doing features like Heatmap... I really need the first a lot more than the other. Strange prioritizations.

    It should be fairly easy to add a feature that when you select a bike on your activity, you get two more options where you can select wheelset and tyres.

    Also, please do some drastic improvements for being able to get statistics. There are many third party players that allready are doing this with Strava data, on their spare time. This should also be a fairly easy task to implement.

    If Strava wants paying customers, there need to be progress. As a Premium member the last years I can not see what I am actually paying for. There is very little visible development on the site and the things that are Premium content are overall not really that interesting. So, I have currently cancelled my Premium membership and will not renew it until significant improvements have been made.

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  • The FitBike service alert app can now be reached at https://fitbikealert.com/ . It's helpful for tracking mileage on your bike's components and letting you know when service it due. Sorry, it's likely not what you want if you tend to swap parts. 

    https://fitbikealert.com/sessions/faq

     

    RideOn!

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  • I raised a support ticket for a similar issue quite a while ago.  It seems there is bug/limit to how many components of one type you can have.  The limit seems to be 2, or at least it was.  Every time I added a 3rd component of the same type e.g. tyres, brake pads, chains which I get through quickly, the oldest ones disappear when I haven't deleted them.  I deleted all my tyres and started again and confirmed that yes, without deleting anything, when I add the 3rd set of tyres, the first are automatically removed.  I like to compare how much use I've gotten out of tyres and brake pads in particular to see which are best value for money.

    However, I just put a new chain and cassette on my bike last weekend and now have only the last 2 chains, but have 3 cassettes.  This is actually only my 3rd cassette on the bike so it's the first time I've gone over 2 on a cassette, but it's my 7th chain.

    So either Strava have tried to implement a fix and it's partially worked or the bug only existed for certain components.

    Either way, tracking of components is not a feature which can be used at the moment so I have to resort to a spreadsheet, but that means I've got to go right back to the beginning and month by month work out all my KM then day by day for part months up to change over date.  What a ball ache.  No point having a feature if it's not usable.

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  • Yeah, I totally get that you have to prioritize developer resources, but you guys have certainly prioritized less important things like a heat map that I can't imagine many people (if any) asked for. Tracking wear on components is critical for many of us, and Strava is THE place this needs to be integrated with since it has all of our mileage and time data.

    The most important thing for me right now, personally, is wheels, tires, and tubes and I do split my time between the road and an indoor trainer. My workaround is to create two bikes, one for the road, and one for the trainer. I then put my wheels and tires on the road bike, but not the trainer. This works for me because I'm not constantly swapping out components.

    Of course, tubes isn't even an option which is stupid. My background is in web development and I know this would take a whole 60 seconds to add. While you're at it, just add every component that can possibly be changed on a bike. Or just allow us to input our own component names.

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  • As has been requested previously I'd like to be able to put components on "the shelf" and then use them again later to keep track of miles on my suspension and tires when I switch back and forth. Hours in addition to miles would be helpful for suspension maintenance.

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  • There is a notes column that I use to write various things - but as soon as you retire a component, you can't view the notes. Any API app that can view all the notes, including retired components?

    Also, anyone else confirm that you can't retire more than 2 of the same component? When you retire the 3rd, it deletes one of the existing retired ones....

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  • Bruce, there's unfortunately no way to access the components via API, so that won't be possible. And yes, the issue with 3 components max of each type is real.

    Over Christmas holidays I managed to improve my gear tracker quite a lot, but the web interface still isn't usable enough to go public with it. Hope I'll finish it soon.

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  • I had cause to add new chain rings at the weekend. Same as the cassette it's the 3rd set of rings on this bike and I don't change the gear ratios by terrain so they stay on bike till worn out. All my chain rings are listed so it looks like the limit for new components is at least 3 if not higher, depending on whether strava have implemented a fix (partially or otherwise)

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  • Looks like this request has been around for years. I'd still like to see the option to track gear usage by hours instead of distance. Moving time is recorded in every activity. So can you please make a drop down to choose how gear usage is recorded? Thanks!

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  • +1 request for this feature. Swapping wheelsets and tyres around is a PITA.

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