Segment too short?

I noticed recently that Strava won't allow creation of segments that are "too short". While I understand the desire to reduce the quantity very short segments prone to timing issues - particularly urban segments - this is definitely not the right approach for off-road, where short segments may be very technical and slow. 100m snaking carefully around obstacles in loose or muddy terrain is very different to a flat, straight section of tarmac.

A more nuanced solution is required: perhaps one that looks at the mean or mode of the listed times and removes the segment if the value falls below a threshold.

Until then... can we please have our short segments back?

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  • C'mon Strava. A great short climb near my house that I want to make into a segment.

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  • Still an issue, 

    I recently went "E" and there isn't any of the old mtb segments anywhere on the E bike rides. 

    I'm trying to slowly add them but most are under the new limit. 

    Any update Strava?

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  • What's the point of having Strava if I can't make my own segment to time myself on a great spot I've found? Really Strava? This is pure crap.

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  • If this is still open I'd like to add my 2p to be able to create shorter off road segments.

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  • It's "open" as much as any Strava issue / user idea is open. They'll let you comment all you want, but won't ever reply, and much less never do anything about it. Check out the threads going on 6 years now about the ability to filter feeds, separate MTB from Road, adding private messages, etc... 

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  • I agree - we need to be able to create short segments for significant climbing in short distance, etc.

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  • Segment too short?

    Trying to add a .17 mile or 273 meter climb,  Says it's too short but guidelines state "Make your segment at least a few hundred meters long"

    There are several much shorter segments on my daily ride that seem to work fine.

     

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  • Segment length shouldn't be applied to virtual segments, like in Zwift, either.

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  • So frustrating, please can you remove the segment length restriction, as most MTB or E-MTB segments are too short to create, or recreate for e-bike. Thanks

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  • The change to stop allowing short segments has obviously caused more frustration than it has allayed. Until a better solution to the "problem" is determined, Strava should clearly remove this restriction. By keeping the change, it's clear that Strava is ignoring the interests and frustrations of its users (as it frequently does).

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  • Actually, there is an inverse problem which is why short segments were restricted.  The measurements are too long between each data point, and the algorithm can show up to 107 MPH on a segment the rider is averaging 28 mph on.  That's the reality, and while the frustration with not being able to create new short segments is real for MTB folks, the other side gives completely ridiculous results and makes short segments worthless in most cases where they were created.

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  • The problem is that Strava don’t care anymore. They have their user base, they are making their money from memberships and that’s all they care about. Until a suitable alternative becomes available and we move to it, don’t expect Strava to do anything.

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  • The average speed of a segment is irrelevant, and the accuracy of GPS and timing for virtual segments such as for Zwift appear to be a non-issue, hence the specificity of my particular comment.

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  • Also, users are free to hide segments they consider ridiculous anyway.

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