Veteran Strava user, new ebike rider.

So I have a new MTB an eMTB and I love it. I've been using Strava for years, cycling, running, hiking, swimming even for a stroll to the shop and have found Strava to be useful and fun using it to compete against my friends and enemies. I've flagged and been flagged and gone through the torment of someone taking my crown. But as I return to Strava once again this time riding an eMTB I find it frustrating that my new embt achievements don't get their own segments, is this going to be rectified and embt gets its own place on Strava? I'd like to compete against myself and friends in a whole new discipline without upsetting the anti ebike snowfakes. Please sort this out.

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  • Strava needs to use the same segments for both normal bikes and e-bikes, with different leaderboards. It's frustrating when the segments I usually ride with a normal bike aren't available when riding an e-bike. And re-creating all those segments for ebikes is a real PITA.

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  • I just got a new eMTB as well as was really disappointed to see that none of the normal MTB segments showed up.  I would really love to compete against myself to see improvement as well as compete with friends on DH segments.  It would be nice if there was a different color or even grayed out times for eMTB uses so we don't "muddy" the leaderboards.  I'm not looking to "cheat", I just want to compare my performance.

    Strava, any updates on this?  Ran through a few community threads and it sounds like this has been an issues for years.  If I log everything as eBike, I can't compare segments with myself.  If I log as a regular bike, I'm a cheater.  There has to be some kind of solution out there.

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  • I don't want to recreate all of our segments for my ebike. Please find a way to use same segments!!!

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  • Jason, ebike access is only a problem in USA, to the best of my knowledge.  I don't know of any other country that restricts access to ebikes.  Admittedly, I only have experience in France, UK, Italy, Germany and Switzerland.

    So, one way makes sense in USA, the opposite in rest-of-world.

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  • Snowflakes? Are you referring to the cyclists that are turning themselves inside out to compete on leaderboards with "cheaters"? Might want to reevaluate who the real snowflake is. To paraphrase the champion of CrossFit, " If taking PED's improves your self-esteem and enhances your quality of life have at it. However, the second you do it and enter competition your a slime". Absolutely applicable in this case.

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  • Well, at least it should be easier for us to create e-bike segments. I created a lot of segments for normal bikes over the last year's and it would be nice to add an option to make them compatible with e-bikes, like Trailforks website. So I don't have to ride these segments again with an e-bike to be able to add them, which isn't always possible.

    And there is no segment explorer for e-bikes, so annoying...

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  • Not possible to copy segments to e-bike category and live segments not supported makes me just log as normal rides when I want to see segment times and compare. 

    Strava is pissing off users not taking this category serious.

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  • Sylvain - what about uphill segments?  e-bikes have a HUGE advantage.  If you don't see that, I don't know what to say.

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  • As a rider who in my earlier years was KOM competitive I totally get this argument. Also now that I have really crappy arthritis and am shopping for my first e-bike (Never thought i would in a million years, lol.) I get that as well. Shouldn't be to hard to have a checkbox (im on an ebike) that just excludes you from KOM leaderboards

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  • Hakon - So because there is something with the program that you don't like, you intentionally cause issues for the other users by logging e-bike rides as regular rides?

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  • "I just got a new eMTB as well as was really disappointed to see that none of the normal MTB segments showed up.  I would really love to compete against myself to see improvement as well as compete with friends on DH segments.  It would be nice if there was a different color or even grayed out times for eMTB uses so we don't "muddy" the leaderboards.  I'm not looking to "cheat", I just want to compare my performance.

    Strava, any updates on this?  Ran through a few community threads and it sounds like this has been an issues for years.  If I log everything as eBike, I can't compare segments with myself.  If I log as a regular bike, I'm a cheater.  There has to be some kind of solution out there."

     

    I have an eMtB along with a regular MTB. I use strava on both. I found if you change in the privacy controls to "followers only" you can load your ebike rides and it will give you all the segment times but it won't use them on the leader boards. Lets you see just how much faster you are on the ebike without ruining it for everyone else.

    It was helpful for me fitness wise to compare my loop times HR with me on my CC bike vs me on the ebike in ECO. Anything above Eco you cant compare to a regular bike.

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  • Eddie, I found this as well. It's a great solution. I log everything as a normal bike ride, change privacy to followers only, and enjoy the access to segments without "muddying" the water for everyone. I feel like this is a great solution.

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  • Jason is right.

    bicycles, EU-Pedelec, US-Pedelec, S-Pedelec are 4 different types of vehicles, meeting different traffic laws.

    The eBike category needs much improvement. 

    Once an eBike, always an eBike, I'm ready and I do create many hundreds of new eBike segments, I would prefer to do the same for eBike subcategories like EU-Pedelec, US-Pedelec, S-Pedelec.

    Yes Sally, it's a lot of work but higher segments quality then.  

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  • Hi Derrik Schweppe

    Following lot of emtb haters influence in Strava community, Strava product manager change some features to push out emtb user.

    My previous exchanges with these angry riders showed me most of them have no idea of what is an eMTB and have no real MTB skill, even CX skill. Most of them come from road and just drive on easy dirt way like they ride on road. Some of them are so slow than indeed any assistance will be a big boost for them.

    But MTB is about technical skill. MTB rider dont care about easy climb or straight flat segments. Same for eMTB.

    Now, I think the eMTB segment/board split from cycling group is probably for all real MTB riders the best chance to remove all these dummy road style segments for baby KOM lovers. I have no doubt the MTB family will remerge soon.

    With my friends, we migrated all our MTB/eMTB segments to eMTB section. And segment database is my zone is really nicer now. Do the same.

    Thanks Strava. Thanks haters.

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  • I guess I am a little confused about your last comment. If it "isn't always possible" to ride a segment with an e-bike to create the segment, then why would you want the segment there for e-bikes? Seems like the segment being there for e-bikes only does you any good if you are able to ride your e-bike on it in the first place.

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  • Any news about segment sharing between all cycling?

    If not, when road segment will be delete for MTB category?

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  • Yes they have. But if you focus on this, what about flat and downhill segments? And why dont you request to isolate gravel from MTB? There have a big advantage too. Or why not isolate full-suspension from MTB on downhill segments,...

    I mean if Strava are looking to keep only customers who ride like road bikers on short uphill, they choose the good way. Other platforms will solve the cheating issue smarter than they do.

    Cheating is not only about some stupid emtb riders. In my zone, I saw many MTB shortcuted segments and got the KOM... None of them use eMTB. So, why Strava don't isolated all MTB riders because some of them are cheating? You will just have to recreate your segments in your new section ;) 

    Anyway. There is no raison to isolate eMTB from all the other bikes. A simple filter in the board is enough to ignored some stupid bikers using boost mode on uphill. Next easy steps will be to add an end date on KOM because singles change a bit every year. And some redo requests to confirm the KOM.

    I love challenge myself with other MTB. It's really hard. And sure, I never climb for the KOM motor on. So I dont get KOM on uphill but I regularly be in board, with my 10-15kg heavier bike.

     

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  • You just have to create the segments for e-bikes. It wouldn't make sense to just copy all of the existing bike segments because e-bikes are not legal in a lot of places other regular bikes are legal. You would be automatically creating a bunch of segments people could not legally ride with an e-bike.

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  • Tom Schnorbus On my MTB, medium speed 20 km/h, sprint 45 km/h. On my eMTB, medium speed 20 km/h, sprint 32km/h. No motor assistance after 25 km/h but the 15kg more than an XC carbon bike stay here...

    But speed dont matter on MTB. Technic do. MTB are so agile and lighter than I dont understand how eMTB rider could win and keep KOM on good segment.

    And yes I am agree, if a MTB rider is not able to ride faster than 25km/h to beat an eMTB beginner, he is a "snowflake" and they is no way for him to win any KOM against any bikes.

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