Designate between a "Group" and a "Solo" ride on Strava

This would allow Strava cyclists to tag a ride as a group ride or a solo ride, and also be able to sort segment leaderboards by those filters.

 

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  • totally agree.  particularly relevent to age group categories

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  • 4 years and this is still going on? Just checked in to see if there has been any progress—nope!

    Strava obviously doesn't attach any importance to it so I've given up.

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  • I really need to unfollow this one ;-) Note that the original request was 3/5/2012. FOUR YEARS ago, doubt if it is going to happen.

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  • I totally agree with this idea. I've been trying to get them to do this also.

    It makes so much sense.

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  • I asked them about it and they just sent me to the community posts. They need alot of people wanting this i guess. We would all use it, don't they get it

     

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  • It's a shame this feature hasn't been implemented... I'm sure that most people who do group rides would say something along the lines of "I wasn't even taking any notice of the Strava segments, I was competing against my fellow riders on the day"... which makes it even more annoying that they have accidentally taken away some of the fun us solo-riders have trying to beat other solo rider's times.... As more and more group rides take place I can see this problem being a reason I don't bother with Strava any more (I'm currently a Premium member of Strava)...  Of course, it won't be fool-proof as anyone could ride with a "stealth" (non Strava-User), which I guess is the reason why it hasn't been addressed?

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  • Still this feature not there... why should strava team doesn't take up challenge in solving this. Please make some way to mention a friend in activity who rode / run along with.....

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  • Brilliant! But doubt it will stop the bandits riding around taking KOM's as a team

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  • How many people need to post on this topic for it to be implemented??!! If there is another riding app that could do this users would swap over from Strava as quick as a peleton-led-out KOM

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  • this thing will be 5 years old next year. Let's prepare for the proper celebration of unresolved user request!

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  • This clasification between groups and individuals to set KOMs on segments would be really necessary, in my opinion.

    Please, Strava team, implement the sooner the better to do this app greater than already is.

    Thank you.

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  • As someone who rides a lot in a variety of different condition, but will never care about achieving KOM's (unless it is in the combined older heavier 55-64 age group, 180-200 lb category, and even that is a long shot unless I pick a really obscure segment where the whole leaderboard consists of just me).

    So many factors affect KOM's in addition to the inherent fitness of the athlete: self reporting, weather and wind, where a segment falls in a ride, group size, equipment. It seems hard to take them too seriously given all that variability.

    Segment performance data can be interesting and valuable if you know its provenance. Certainly one's own rides and efforts fall squarely into that category.

    So better attribution supporting better selection, filtering, and analysis of my own data over time is what I'm looking for.

    For instance I like the color coding in the training log based on ride type.

    As I'm sure many do, I consistently use certain keywords in the activity title as a poor man's classification scheme: group rides start with LH (for the club I ride with), "solo", "family" for leisurely rides with the kids, default titles "morning ride" and "evening ride" cover my commutes, for organized events and races I use their names.

    What would be of value to me is

    • a few more pre defined ride attributes, logically organized, such as this request, "group", "solo"
    • self-defined categories/tags in addition to the pre-defined attributes
    • ability to filter segment results by multiple criteria simultaneously
    • ability to filter segment results by more criteria than are currently provided

     

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  • Agree!

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  • Agree with this - very old - idea. And well, the group / solo filtering option on segment leaderboards should be pretty straightforward to implement:

    1. If a user has ridden with others - which Strava detects - an effort is marked as a group-effort.

    2. If not, but the system used to link rides of calculate the rate of match in the flyby-option can be used to check if an effort was set together with others. If yes -> mark.

    3. If 2 is too difficult, check if an effort on a segment roughly matches another effort (say, like, 98% or so) that started at roughly the same time (give or take a second).

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  • YES, we need this so badly... if I see the all time records of a segment for my group members I cannot distinct between a solo ride or a group ride ;-(

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  • This is so not hard to do. Yuno Strava?

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  • Kevin, only thing I can think of is naming convention: I always include "SOLO" in the title of a trip I did alone.. but how to distinct in stats en segement best times etc... I don't know... Tell me?

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  • Great feature

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  • @petertoes, including "SOLO" is a decent convention, but still it would be trivial and way more helpful for a single checkbox or a few radio buttons to differentiate group vs solo rides. That way you could compare apples to apples. It just to be seems like a no brainer for the Strava folks to implement, and would literally take 5 minutes. Here, I'll halp, gratis

    Add this to the app/webpage

    <div class="solo-group">
    <label for="solo">Solo Ride</label>
      <input type="radio" name="solo" id="solo" value="solo"><br/>
      <label for="group">Group Ride</label>
      <input type="radio" name="group" id="group" value="group"><br/>
    </div>

    Then add to the dao/db object

    {
    "solo_group": "<input value>"
    }

    And boom goes the dynamite. I'm a wizard.

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  • As a female solo rider I'm motivated to grab QOMs to keep me pushing hard. Most of the QOMs in my area are won by women riding with at least one strong male they draft behind - but often with a whole group of guys (not women). It feels pretty sweet to grab a QOM from someone on a lighter bike, who's riding with support - but dang -it's wee bit annoying to work your ass off, only to to see another chick pluck a crown away whilst wheeksucking behind her racing beau.

    Solo riders get 100% headwind - no moving rest/recovery - it's a different ride altogether.
    It should at least be a Premium Member option. Or just a colour differential/star/S or something to show in the leaderboards a who rides true solo - and who sucks wheel. ;)

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  • Amen Larissa P - you nailed it exactly.

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  • Totally agree with Larissa.

    Someone pointed me to this ride in my area: https://www.strava.com/activities/1046177320 . I really don't mind that people are riding these loops in a group, even calling it 'KOM Hunt' is no problem. But: imagine someone riding solo, working hard to get a certain KOM, then a group like this comes along and boom: you're no. 5. Or, when you look in to it, 9th, which is the position of the current fastests solo rider. 

    I use Strava for some TT-training and comparing to other solo rides helps this, comparing with groups is useless and getting better and faster means that comparing in the default ride-view doesn't work anymore; many of the other riders are group-efforts. I really don't need a KOM or a top 10 position, I want to compare with other solo riders.

    So Strava, just make it a simple option: add 'group ride' as a tickbox. Or another very simple solution: add the choice 'group ride' to the list of ride-types.

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  • well...this thread was started at least 5 years ago.  Doesn't appear that anything is going to happen.  F###ing b###ards.

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  • Have any of you ever thought of creating a segment with U-Turns and I mean having a few of them.

    Fast group riding requires straight and flowing paths, therefore the more turning / breaking involved the group cannot work that well together, that is a skill that the pro's have as they will continue to power through a corner.

    Take note if you ride in a group how much the group stretches after taking a corner and even more so on a U-turn

    I have written a page(using the strava api) which provides an example which you can use to check an activity and segment and see if was a group or solo effort, enjoy the app

    http://strava.lopeys.com/grouporsolo.php  

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  • I agree that group rides with KOMs/QOMs should be categorised as Group KOM/QOM or should at least not be taken from someone who has achieved it solo (although it's not actually possible to verify this if the people they're riding with don't have a tracking device).

    BUT! I think something has changed.  I am not getting notifications generally (although I did for a sportive) of group ride QOMs being taken on the whole, although I occasionally. Maybe Strava have begun work in the background or maybe they just don't want to alienate a whole load of users who really care about trophies and will do whatever they can to get them...

    All of this said, it feels really good if you can get a crown back solo from someone who got it on a group ride - makes you work harder and become a better cyclist!

     

     

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  • Maybe they've started but want something smart to cover the cases in which an effort looks like a solo effort, but isn't? Anyhow, a short update "we're working on it" would be nice :-)

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  • It would be great to be able to sort between solo and group but overall between "race" and "training". Indeed, it is almost impossible to ride as fast as a bunch during a race and consequently, you can find yourself very very far in the ranking in case a race took your road...

    I suggest a general classification and adding some new filters options on the left side pannel such as race, group, solo.

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  • As baz luhrmann would say . "In the end you are only competing against yourself". That's what I'd be using a solo tag for, to compare my solo rides with peloton rides.

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  • Graeme - that is exactly my point. I want to easily identify which of my OWN efforts were done solo or with the benefit of a draft. Both require effort, but one gives deeper satisfaction!

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  • Strava, in late 2017 and....still the "house of cheaters" hahahaha!!!

    Well, years ago since they are able to detect automatically group activities... BUT you still have to fight against team trimetrial specialists... or... maybe a professional cyclist peloton in a competition...

    Good luck!!

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