Designate between a "Group" and a "Solo" ride on Strava

This would allow Strava cyclists to tag a ride as a group ride or a solo ride, and also be able to sort segment leaderboards by those filters.

 

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  • I'm not seeking KOM's - I just want to monitor performance improvements in segments and full activities.  Not being able to differentiate solo vs group rides makes this more difficult for this goal.  Could you use historical sensor data (watts) and environmental data (wind speed and direction) to help identify group vs solo activity?  Even better, can you identify pulling vs not pulling?

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  • This feature should automatically register strava already knows when you rode together with others for individual segments it could determine if the segment was completed as part of a group or not  (when someone gets dropped/breaks away from the group for part of the ride). The basis for this functionality would seem to already exist in fly-bys...

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  • I'm not sure if Fly By's are accurate enough, I know from looking at some of my rides the Fly By graphics show a different picture as to what really happened when riding in a group, people out of order etc. Trouble is, if you are riding by yourself but overtake a heap of people during a segment, how does Strava determine if you rode by yourself or with the group.

     

    Having said that, I've lost a few KoM's lately by Group TT's so some way of telling the difference would be good (self regulation will never work)

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  • We don't need self regulation, let the users regulate.

    Add a solo/group switch which is set to group when Strava detects a group (which it does pretty well). Then add the 'Group effort set as solo ride" option to the flag-option. When you can be flagged when you don't set the group option people will start to set it correctly.

    Groups can still have their KOMs, no problem. We just want to compare solo rides to solo efforts.

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  • so... for one of the most chatted topics... it's interesting to see that it is still not available.

     

    I would like to do my laps of richmond park... but then separate between solo and team rides... solo is a boat load harder and something I really struggle to improve.  But this means that if I do a ride with a mate, I'll smash the solo effort and then never be able to incrementally improve it.

     

    I appreciate there will always be dishonest people who will get their PB's by drafting a moped/motorbike, but candidly, that's their loss, not mine as I'm never going to be that good that I'll be competing against them.

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  • Separate solo and group ride segment-logging and leaderboards needs doing. Rather than being a manual tick (open to abuse) it could be assigned as a group ride based on how many people you rode with and how long for - Strava already has that data.

    Currently there's essentially no point in me looking at my times when I've been out on my own because I'm never have going to have come close to times on segments I've ridden with a group.

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  • Been asking for this for YEARS for all the reasons above...it makes so much sense...yet we still don't have it, and my times are totally useless if I've done a group ride on that route/segment and would like to know how I'm doing on my solo rides. All I can measure and compare is my overall ride time. Seems like it would be SO EASY to implement this! (Strava?? Hello???) Yep...same as it ever was...crickets.

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  • People, you have to understand that Strava want to keep motivated those people whom never will be able to achieve a "solo" KOM or top10... hahaha.
    They are also clients, in fact, the most of them are "groupies".
    If Strava is the home of cheaters is because they want as that.
    People don't like reality. They prefer others think that a time achieved in a group effort with 18mph tail wind (that viewers don't know it existed) is really the same time others do in a solo ride with no wind.
    The same merits! Why not? hahahahaha
    That's why Strava don't register wind with the time done, as Garmin Connect, Endomondo... are doing.
    Strava is quite a big joke.

     

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  • have a look at this article, I know one of these guys and the other is colleague of another friend, this guy literally plans his rides to chase KOMs and gets them, Susan Corda have seen all the cheats on Zwift, they change there weight and change there gender, it happens everywhere, some have pride about their achievements and dont cheat

    http://www.bicyclingaustralia.com.au/news/aussie-strava-spat-goes-global-after-accusations-of-chain-attacking-koms 

     

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  • Strava it’s Time to do this - now!

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  • Was in a 'KOM-battle' with a few friends, taking a specific KOM (6 miles, approx. 15 min) and losing it to the other every few days. Last friday I got it back and that's fun, talking about the segment during the weekend and watching the others try and beat it.

    Today a chaingang rode the segment a couple of times, upping the speed and sprinting for the finish. The result: I've dropped to 9th and my friends dropped out of the top 10. Response: "we're done with this segment, we can't beat it alone". Bye bye fun battle.

    Please, please, please add a groupride-toggle.

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  • Please add this feature!!!

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  • Just want to add one more voice to the request. A KOM in a group is meaningless and discouraging to those who get it on their own.

    It is a MAJOR flaw in the whole ranking scheme for cycling. Eventually they all become irrelevant in areas with lots of riders.

    Personally I don't think it needs to be overly complicated. A distinction between group/individual would be interesting but unnecessary. Who cares who was hanging on at the back when someone drove the group over the line?

    Limit KOMs to those riding alone, period. That is the point right? It promotes healthy competition rather than discouraged abandonment of certain segments.

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  • When the notification popped in my computer screen and I saw the title... for one GLORIOUS moment I excitedly clicked on it and thought "here is the final answer that makes strava brilliant".    Then I just saw that it was a continuation on the thread.

     

    I have ACTIVELY said no to friends to join me on certain favoured rides, (for example Richmond Park London), because I know that all it takes is a couple of cars to force us into single file and next thing we're drafting.  If I smash a few segments together, then I'll never be able to beat myself again SOLO.

    I'm not saying DRAFTING rides are cheating, but if I beat someone, I want to know that I did it because it was clean, not because I was in a group.  Likewise if someone beats me and I find out they've been cheating, then it spoils Strava.

    :-(.... 

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  • When the notification popped in my computer screen and I saw the title... for one GLORIOUS moment I excitedly clicked on it and thought "here is the final answer that makes strava brilliant".    Then I just saw that it was a continuation on the thread.

     

    I have ACTIVELY said no to friends to join me on certain favoured rides, (for example Richmond Park London), because I know that all it takes is a couple of cars to force us into single file and next thing we're drafting.  If I smash a few segments together, then I'll never be able to beat myself again SOLO.

    I'm not saying DRAFTING rides are cheating, but if I beat someone, I want to know that I did it because it was clean, not because I was in a group.  Likewise if someone beats me and I find out they've been cheating, then it spoils Strava.

    :-(.... 

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  • Essential feature - Strava already recognises group rides so surely it makes complete sense to create and distinguish segment leader boards for solo and group rides. They are clearly not the same.

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  • Yes! I mean there’s a huge advantage to riding with a group obviously or even one or a few others so. Some of us that want to compare our solo efforts against other solo efforts -not team
    TT’s or peloton speeds.

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  • YES< NEED THE GROUP/SOLO feature!!!! Please, Start forcing a user choice before press "START", you must select "SOLO" or "GROUP" then START

    if strava detects two riders doing the same exact segment within a meter for more than half of a segment, over-ride any user "SOLO" setting to GROUP , cause THEY BE BUSTED! haha...

    Personally: i plan to create a second user -  2nd user name: "Rob Group Ride" only used for bragging rights over beers after... (i have never turned on my strava in group rides before)

    "Rob Solo ITT"  = is much more important - my own PERSONAL ITT BEST times... screw everyone else, the wind, the better bikes, the folks following pace cars (ive seen it!) and other cheating methods. I only do closed circuit comparisons to eliminate wind and ignore groups ahead of me... PLUS, a lot of folks are using e-bikes now, so funny, especially on MTB singletrack...

    I also dont want my group rides to mess with my personal ITT best times... dont mess with my personal goals!! 

    For me "DONT let this group ride MESS with my personal Solo Best!" is the most important issue and why this feature is a must. Strava should autopopulate the group or solo field from comparing same time/day rides from past years. And yes, that wont be 100% accurate cause many road with folks that do not have strava recording from 2015 and before.

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  • Buy a powermeter and then you can compare easily. Though it would be interesting even for leaderboards. 

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  • Now Strava has promised to be here for the athletes this is needed more than ever. Give us an extra option in the leaderboards: also show grouprides.

    The default can be solo-only and bring Strava back to the core: show other what you can do, or better: prove it.

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  • I just subscribed and I think this feature is essential. There is a huge difference between group and solo rides for segments at least on anything over about 15 mph. Otherwise the KOM is kind of meaningless. It would be relatively easy to compare time of day and segment to know if people are in a group or not. You don't need to enter anything. I looked at a segment on a ride I did today and something like 12 people all finished the segment at 27 mph on the same day within 3 seconds of each other. Strava doesn't show time of day of a ride in KOM list but the data is there.

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