Support Tandem Cycling on Strava

This could include support for Tandem cycling, with ways to account for two people riding a tandem on Strava, with unique features to support this and a designated Tandem leaderboard for segments. 

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  • I don't think it is honorable for tandem riders to get credit for cups and KOM/QOM's while riding a tandem. Until there is a separate category they should make their rides private.

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  • If we get enough people like Katherine B. saying that they "don't think it's honorable", maybe the folks at Strava will just make a category?
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  • I think if there were enough Katherine B. style comments in this thread we'd all be too busy laughing to ask Strava to add a tandem category.  Exactly how seriously do people take a QOM/KOM?

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  • Yes I vote for a tandem category too. My wife and I use our tandem for long distance rides and it really covers the ground with style and speed. I agree with the other posts that Strava needs to get with the times and support tandems. If they want us to use their site then they need to provide a good service. I will take the advice of one of the posts about setting up an account just for the tandem and registering with the tandem club on Strava.

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  • There should be a way to filter segment results by bike type: Tandem/Recumbent/E-bike/Trike/Folding etc - just like age range.

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  • The recommendation by Strava above only solves the problem on how to compare to other Tandem riders, but it's absolutely unhelpful in the QOM-section. I got TWO (!) QOMs on my 2nd tandem ride today, so now to not upset the Queens I marked my ride as "Workout" instead of ride but now all segments are gone.

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  • Yeah the tandem riders that I ride with get my QOM's. It really isn't a fair comparison.

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  • Is there a technical blocking point that makes it impossible to have a tandem category? I just don't get why Strava is silent on this topic. It only makes sense to at least be able to filter results by 'Men", :"Women", "Tandem".

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  • Yes, my wife and I would like to upload rides to show friends and family our adventures. Also find other tandem riders to challenge and crush! Thanks.
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  • I want to be able to post my tandem rides on STRAVA especially as in many segments we rate very highly.

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  • I'm glad to see there is so much interest.  I did get a short response from Strava support:

    "Elle Anderson

    Looks like this feature already exists! "

    This may be because I defined another road bike and named it "tandem".  I've replied and pointed out, in more detail, the real problem, but it is nice to get a response.

    Let me explain one thing about how I tried to game the team weight problem.  I'm not trying to estimate my individual power output, but just the total team power.  On a climb that means mostly Strava using an accurate value for the weight of captain + stoker + tandem.  Strava knows how much I weigh and if I lie to Strava and say my bike weighs as much as bike and stoker combined, then Strava's calculation for total weight and therefore total team power generated on a climb, should be reasonable.

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  • I would love to have a tandem feature. I don't even record my tandem times under my personal account. If I did, I would be taking QOM's from women who deserve them on their single bikes. My husband and I are much faster together than I am on my own bike. Plus, it would be awesome to be able to compare tandem times on the trails we ride. Right now, there is really no way to compare. It would be a great way to find other tandems that ride your trails also.

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  • hello !!

    mon mari et moi avons chacun notre compte, et un compte pour nous deux, mais il est impossible de se comparer aux autres tandems !!

    s'il vous plait, créer une catégorie TANDEM !!

    merci d'avance

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  • I agree with David Fisch, simply create tandem as a gender.  Tandem riders would create a new account with the gender set to T.  That wouldn't upset either KoM's or QoM's but we would have ToM's and could see our results on the overall leaderboard.

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  • Yikes, I can't imagine a simpler solution! Come on Strava!
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  • TOMs would be a fantastic solution.  Too difficult for Strava?

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  • Yes please to TOMs ! :-)

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  • We're working on improving the system so that tandem activities can co-exist with other cycling activities on Strava, without conflict with the segment leaderboards. Stay tuned! 

    Thanks for the "TOM" idea - I like it and I'll be sure to pass it along. 

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  • Elle, I note that Strava is improving the system "so that tandems can co-exist" with other cyclists, especially on the leaderboard.

    *Not* to improve the Strava experience for tandem teams.

    So that tandem teams don't bother the other cyclists that Strava values.

    So, was what I suggested in 2012 ultimately prophetic?

    "Will And Ly… V. July 31, 2012
    I've brought this up before, but Strava isn't exactly interested. Changing the athlete profile to construct a team involving two athletes would require intensive coding, apparently.

    The tandem market is too small for Strava to bother.

    Strava might become more interested if tandem teams started accounts under the name of the female stoker, indicating female on the check box (there not being an option for mixed team). Then tandem teams go out and rack up all sorts of QOM's. The deposed QOM's contact Strava to complain. *Then* Strava cares about tandems, and creates a tandem category solely to smooth ruffled QOM feathers."

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  • Has this developed any further??  

     

    Could I make a suggestion on how to fix it?

     

    I list our tandem on my kit list and always ride with my wife/stoker.  Very very very rarely do I ever ride with another stoker.  If both of use list the same bike and have some way of joining kit ("You've listed a tandem.  Who do you share this bike with?" option and then I can nominate account from my friends list) so that the same bike is the identifier between the two accounts.  Whenever I upload my track and click on the tandem for bike option a sub option gives the choice of "Did Mrs. S ride with you?" and the track (bar heart rate) is posted to both accounts or the GPS tracks from both accounts are used to increase track resolution.

    Strava then knows that my wife's QOMs have come from being part of the team, you can even add a "QOM - Mrs. S (tandem)" in the results sheet so that others know.

     

    Please make this happen!!!

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  • My x-girl friend has a lot of QOM that she dose not deserve , because she was on the back on the tandem

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  • My x-stocker has lots of QOMs that she dose not deserve , do to being on the back on the tandem

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  • I really like the idea of differentiating based on kit used. I ride both tandem and solo and only have one Garmin, so when I connect to Garmin Express it automatically syncs to my solo account. Having a separate account for tandem probably requires not only a separate tandem strava account, but also a separate Garmin and a separate login on the computer.

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  • The problem, from my view, is that tandems show up on the leaderboards along with the people who ride solo. Tandems need a separate leaderboard.

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  • This topic has been discussed for years now on this forum and it is obvious that Strava is not going to do anything about it.  It would be quite simple if all they did was to allow the in the gear setup to allow to mark a bike as a tandem and then keep it off the leader-boards, or have a separate leader-board for tandems.  I have had to go and mark private the rides where my wife got the QOM because we were on the tandem because I didn't think that was fair. It is not something I should need to do.

    Anyway, don't hold your breather for Strava to do anything, despite the many comments over years now.  Their main focus seems to appeal to younger riders who are trying to get on the top 10 spots on segments and they care less about older riders, who might be the fastest in their age group, or tandem riders, or any other segment that is not their target audience.  The sad thing is that with database driven websites like Strava, they can meet the needs of a wider group but my guess is the people making the decisions at Strava are young and don't ride a tandem and therefore could care less.

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  • I want Strava to support tandems too, but when I thought about it, I did see it would be hard to do everything I'd like them to.  Their whole database is set up for one record - one person.  Tandems are probably the smallest part of their customer base and the hardest to serve well.  In addition, if we get all our tandem options they clutter up menus for the vast majority of users.

    I'm also getting this free and there are a lot of sites that abuse us more and provide us less.  I will say I  wasn't impressed when Elle, a Strava rep, said they were going to try and do something and immediately got dumped on.

    As far as stealing KOM's goes, we personally are unfortunately not nearly fast enough to do that on any segment that anyone cares about here in Colorado, even down hill.  The closest thing to a real problem for me is trying to come close to the tandem on my single bike.

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  • It seems really simple to me - Strava just adds one Tandem leaderboard. We who ride tandems simply use a separate account for the tandem. That's what we do. We have an account only for tandem rides, and a separate account each for all our single bikes. We upload to Strava from one Garmin on the tandem and select that bike from the Garmin's list before we start riding. Only drawback for the user would be if they wanted two or three Premium accounts, with a separate Premium for the tandem. We care more about keeping track of our tandem work, so we have a Premium for it and free for the singles. If folks ride both tandem and single, I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to keep the data separate. Otherwise the tandem pollutes the singles data and vice versa. Captain and Stoker don't usually share an account for their singles, do they?

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  • Separate leaderboard would be brilliant and so much fairer.  Agree with Franz that females should really mark their rides as private as there are a couple around here that regularly claim QOM,s even although they are riding tandem with fit male riders.

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  • I too use a tandem sometimes. I add it in the title of the ride to show this. I would love to see this added. It could be for multiple activities. I use a tandem kayak sometimes too
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  • Create a activity flag to indicate a Tandem Ride. This would eliminate the need for multiple accounts for the tandem clubs members. The tandem clubs could filter out rides that are not indicated as a tandem ride with the activity flag.

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