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All tied KOMs/QOMs/CRs should count and register on Profiles

Currently, if you equal a KOM, your achievement is only recognised on that segment's leader board. It is not recognised and does not appear in your personal list of KOMs on the 'KOMs/CRs' section of your profile page. This to me seems non-sensical and unfair, as that KOM only appears on the profile page of the person who first set the current KOM. Surely if two or more people have achieved the same time, they should each have it recognised in their personal list of KOMs on their profile page. It is by definition a shared record, and should be recognised by all who share it. 

Or, if it is only possible to recognise one person for whatever - as it currently appears to be - it should appear on the profile page of the premium member, as they are financially contributing to the Strava site.   

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  • What really stinks is I held the KOM. Then someone beat me and got it. Then I tied him and it does not appear on my KOM list. I was the original holder and lost it in a tie. Boo. Strava, this mean a lot to some of us "marginal" athletes for whom a KOM is still a big deal.

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  • makes no sense.  We all ride in groups and lots of times we get the same KOM.  so, whoever gets home first and uploads the KOM wins?   Come on...

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  • I also believe this should not be the case. There are segments I've tried repeatedly for months in an attempt to climb the leaderboard. In a few cases, the best I could do was tie the current KOM, however this still means that I equal the best effort out there. I also like to keep track of which segments I've reached the top on, so that I can focus my efforts elsewhere, and not showing ties on my profile's KOM list really makes that challenging. Seeing all this feedback, I am clearly not the only one with these issues.

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  • Agree that shared KOMs should be recognized equally and not just the first to post or earn it.

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  • This thread's been running for over 2 and a half years now. It's clear Strava don't have much interest in it which is surprising seeing as KOM's are a huge part of the attraction of Strava. I was previously blase on this subject but I now think that tied KOM's should definitely be recognised in your KOM list. If you tie a KOM there is no longer a king but two kings, so it should be recognised!

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  • OP was in 2015...

    ....it's now 2018 and it's still not resolved.

    How long does it take to write a couple of lines of code saying:

    10 IF "besttime" = same (Person1:Person2:PersonN); THEN "trophies all round"

    20 PUT "besttime" in chronological order

    Well the above gibberish took me 30 seconds, so let's say 1h to do it properly (that seems quite generous.., real coders can correct me).

    So, in 3 years Strava couldn't devote 1h to fix one of their core features :-(

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  • They must have done something recently because the default behaviour has changed (for our region at least??).  You only have to equal a KOM and it goes to 'your' profile.  No longer is it the case that if you get it first it stays with you.  As soon as someone 'new' equals the KOM it goes to them.  Go Figure !! I have stated this in the past but can definitely confirm it is happening.

    This isn't rocket science.  The algorithms are not that accurate that Strava are ever going to get it perfect.  Segments can be recorded for different athletes as different distances, in some cases different paths (but you are picked up as being on the same segment) ... so why this problem with shared KOMs in profiles?  You can't time this stuff down to the 100th of a second and state categorically who has the top time. You technically 'share' the KOM already as you have the crown so whats the big hoo haa if it sits across both/all profiles that have the KOM.  

    rant over - weeeoooooooo

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  • Well this morning I've got a KOM missing and a new one's appeared in the list where I'm actually in 771st place.. seems the KOM feature is screwed up big time. I'm relying more on the starred segments to keep track of them now.

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  • Agree. Strava, please fix. A shared KOM is a KOM.

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  • Here's a question.

    How many comments / votes does a post have to have before Strava does something?

    3 years later and still not addressed

    :-(

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  • I have a couple of tied KOM's not showing on my profile. The solution is simple: Go 1s faster :-)

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  • Concur- please add to dev roadmap.  Recommend publishing sample of development road map with date suggestions like "next", "later", and "soon".

     

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  • Jon-Ivar Lund and anyone else suggesting to go faster to fix this problem - YOU ARE ALL A STUPID WASTE OF TIME. This is a known BUG and it is not always possible to go 1s faster without facing serious risk on the road. Sometimes you get the KOM first, but it does not show on your profile. Other times, people that match your KOM see it on your profile, but you lose it from yours. More commonly, it does not show as you having achieved the equal best time. IT HAS BECOME VERY ERRATIC. So, again, please do not comment if you have only STUPIDITY to contribute.

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  • @Eric:

    So just give up this KOM and find another one where you'll be one second faster. And just wait. There will be people that won't mind the "risk on road" and will be faster anyway...

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  • So tonight i posted the third KOM that I now share with another rider. Guess what,  nothing showing on my profile page. Having virtually burst a blood vessel to get it, I am now faced with the anticlimax. It is a simple pleasure but I want to see these KOM's on my page as I have only managed to ever achieve five! Come on Strava this is getting ridiculous....three years and waiting?

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  • Tied KOMs should deffinately show on your profile! Come on strava! Get this sorted out or at least let us know if this will ever come!

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  • The erratic and inconsistent behavior of KoMs being indicated on an activity, in recent achievements, and on KoM lists for years is unbelievable for the defining feature of Strava. Note ties as KoM everywhere, and don't put them in athlete's KoM lists based on when they were achieved / uploaded / random.

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  • This issue really pretty simple and obvious, and it's baffling why Strava hasn't done anything. It's utterly illogical that the upload time defines the winner in a tie. By definition, a "tie" has more than one winner/KOM. Therefore when there is a tie, each winner should get equal credit in their profiles. The date of the achievement is irrelevant. 

     

    QED

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  • It's only been 2 years... another fortnight and it'll be 3 years exactly :) AFTER YOU COMMENT, GIVE A +1 VOTE TO THE ORIGINAL 2015 POST.

    That aside, it's ironic that KOM /QOMs are probably what got many of us to join Strava. And no, it's not just a matter of setting a faster time each time, because this function is working erratically.

    Strava only wants our data, with little to no care for issues like this. Now add the fact that they too have gone more mainstream 'social media' and it's been good reasons to not ever pay for a Premium subscription and caring less about your own and your friends' activities lost in amongst other posted crap. Congrats Strava!

    Can you please now stop spamming me about randomly stupid notifications about how I'm improving on segments I'm not even covering? Thanks :)

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  • Agree 100%  - Strava is about segments and KOMs for most of the users. A KOM is KOM and does not matter when we got it. Please fix it!!!

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  • I also think that there should be a place under profile for a total of all cailen's you have ever received no matter how long it's been or if they have been beaten. Also links to the actual segment that you received and on and the date.

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  • It's very obvious Strava do not care about this feature anymore.. They're gonna be handing out 1st places to everyone soon in the name of 'inclusion' and political correctness lol

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  • Happened to me today. KOM tied 3 ways on legit seg with 800+ on LB. Doesn't show in my trophy case. That sucks. Fix it

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  • I am paying for this. So please do your homework and fix this.

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  • As Elle said on her "tagged" post at the beginning of this thread ... 

    "Thanks everyone for sharing your feedback with us about tied KOMs, QOMs and CRs. Due to the overwhelming number of potential projects on our roadmap, we haven't had the chance to consider this yet"

    I suppose that Strava needed to devote all their resources to creating those awesome new Kudo Emojis, because that's way more important than trivialities like equaling and getting credit on a hard earned KOM. Jeez, Strava, you have really lost your way ....

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  • Vote with your feet. I'm not renewing my subscription @ £48/yr.

    With only 1 sec precision, and often worse than that accuracy, the way they handle the kom assignment in general is kind of nonsense anyway, so to carry that over to your profile, is just rubbish. If they fix this, I'll start paying again, np.

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  • Yes agreed, I'll just be going back to the free version

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  • 3 years later...
    Come on guys, there must have been time to implement this very popular and relatively straightforward request by now!

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  • I dont get whats going on recently ive just noticed that where i was sharing a KOM and I was directly underneath the person who got it first now for some of them I am on top of them but others ive stayed underneath. The KOMs whether im on top or underneath are not showing on my KOM list though.

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  • I thought the order was always first by time to the nearest second (not ideal for short KOMs) and then chronologically? Better would be to use the best estimate of time to a very small fraction of a second (the fractions are less reliable, but removing them does not improve the accuracy). This would leave hardly any ties and it wouldn't really matter much what happened to the tiny number that remained. There's no need to display all the decimal places in the leaderboard.

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