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Apple Watch Series 2

Hi, 

Have to ask the question, as Apple hinted that the GPS in the new watch will allow access to developers. Will Strava look at a native Apple Watch app which uses the GPS on the watch?

 

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  • The next version of Strava for Apple Watch is in the works, and will take advantage of the native GPS. We expect to release it in early 2017.

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  • @Ross Malin - I am also going back to my Fitbit. I've tried importing Nike data 3 ways (vine xyz, TCX file using Run Gap and GPX file using Run Gap) and the data always looks a little strange. I have put in a support request, but based on the responses I am receiving thus far I suspect this will be dropped into the 'too hard basket'.

    I actually believe the Nike Data, but for some reason when it comes across into Strava, times and distances seem to move a little.

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  • Runkeeper beta testing started with their user-base, apparently the app even shows GPS strength. Over to you Strava :-)

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  • Is there an update on this app? Will the Strava app work with the Apple watch 2 soon? This is a big decision if  I invest in purchasing the Apple Watch.

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  • @ Viktor P. - RunGap does work, however you are correct that if you use nike.vine.xyz the heart rate data does not come through. If you export to either GPX or TCX using RunGap you do get a file which include HR data, however all the timings are slightly off and it can make you appear slightly faster than reality.

    In my case I have decided to stop using the Apple watch and go back to using my old Fitbit Surge. Not ideal, but at least more of the data is valid. Nike+ is a no-go for me whilst data issues exist. Even Fitbit despite its own set of issues seems a little more reliable when it comes to syncing back to Strava.

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  • Thanks for the official notice! An early 2017 release would add to a Happy New Year! If you have a beta test program in the meantime, I'm willing to participate. My Strava-logging has paused since getting the Apple Watch S2.

     

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  • I have revisited the Nike Watch app and RunGap following the advice on here and can confirm once configured correctly that it does work. I have done several runs now using this method and all have exported to Strava successfully complete with heart rate and GPS trail. I think my mistake, as suggested, was RunGap using the wrong data source when I first tried. Will still revert to the Strava app once updated but for now I'm happy with the workaround

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  • As an FYI, RunGap no longer supports Nike+ so that avenue is now closed. I've also had a look at the XML files which were output from RunGap and I can now see why Strava has issues as the files only update every 10 seconds, added to which, elevation data is missing. All in all, it is a total mess.

    My concern moving forward will be how Strava will calculate altitude data moving forward as I know the AWS does not have a barometer. I also don't know the resolution of Google's ElevationService API (assuming of course this is what Strava use).

    In the meantime I am back to using my Fitbit Surge which despite its issues, does still work (it also possesses a barometer to work out altitude).

    @Matthew S. You should read the info above as your workaround no longer works. :)

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  • Hey all,
    The problem I'm having with the Nike>Run Gap>Strava solution is with the Nike App itself. About 75% of the time, I don't get any map/GPS data when the nike app transfers from the watch to the phone. At first I get a Nike logo where the map should be, and a "sync pending" note below it. Then I get the circular colorful graph thingy which just infuriates me at this point. Has anyone had this issue and figured out a solution yet? If the map data cant make it to Strava, running
    with the AW2 is a no go for me.

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  • I have exactly the same problem with nike+, does anyone know why?

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  • @Andrew and Anthony:

     

    I've had this problem on twice: the first time I don't know why, and the second time my watch died. After the first time, I just make sure I've finished the workout on the watch and both apps are open. It may seem redundant, but I haven't had that issue when that happened.

    Each time I still have the "sync pending" for a while, but that seems to be more of an internet connectivity issue for me.

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  • Thanks Ryan.

    The only time I got the map to export from the Watch was when I didn't have my phone near me as I ended the run. Weird. 

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  • @Aimery
    Barometer is not needed to get altitude data, GPS is doing the job when 4 satellites or more are detected.
    iPhones don't have a barometer but give altitude data, like any GPS device.
    I'm confident, Strava will deploy the new version early 2017, for sure !

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  • Hope to hear good news soon. Go Strava!!

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  • We've updated our Apple Watch landing page to announce:

     

    Coming Soon for Series 2

    Take Strava with you, but leave your phone behind. Launching in early 2017, Strava for Apple Watch Series 2 will take full advantage of the watch’s new GPS capabilities.

     

    https://www.strava.com/apple-watch

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  • Great news Elle .. looking forward to ditching all the current workarounds and getting my run data directly to Strava.  If beta testers are needed, I would be glad to help.

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  • It would be great if Strava could help complement and improve the functionality of the Apple Watch 2. Taking advantage of the fact that the Nike App NRC is absolutely under par and useless.l (does not allow splits which is the basic feature needed for interval training). Anyway can't wait to be again Strava connected in early 2017 and be able to share my workouts. Grande Strava!! Ciao #busiproject

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  • Great news for AW2 users in 2017. It mentions being able to track run and cycle. Will it do the same for swimming? Ie tracking an open water swim.

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  • @Charly O. - You are incorrect. The iPhone 6, 6s & 7 all have barometric sensors. Also as hopefully you already know, altitude information garnered via GPS can be problematic at the best of times.

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  • Good news Ellie, but will it, or is it likely to have a swimming function?

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  • Need support for cadence while running. Otherwise my 5 yr old Garmin offers better data collection. Thank you.

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  • Hopefully it comes out as soon as possible! Can't wait to use my Apple watch and track a triathlon with gps

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  • Hi All

     

    Runkeeper has just been updated for the Apple Watch Seies 2 and it looks awesome! Just in the process of deleting the Strava app, overrated anyhow!

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  • And for all those moaning about going back to a 5yr old Garmin device, go back! We don't really care tbh. 

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  • By the way, the Apple Watch series 2 does have a barometer. It's not advertised by Apple however iTeardown took the AW to bits and located the barometer within the unit. 

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  • Runkeeper's Apple Watch S2 update is out. Working pretty well so far. Update to Strava via RunGap is working as well.

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  • @Aimery D.

    I hope that you know what is a barometer and how it works...
    Without QNH or QFE recurring adjustment, barometric altimeter is not accurate. How the digital barometers know this information, I don't know, maybe web service... In my plane it is provided by the tower control.

    And regarding GPS vs Barometer.
    (source singletracks) :

    "Many high-end GPS units feature a barometric altimeter in an effort to improve elevation accuracy, but truthfully it doesn’t make much difference. As one GPS company rep confirmed, a barometric altimeter is pretty useless unless it’s regularly calibrated. That’s because it uses atmospheric pressure to determine your altitude–but atmospheric pressure changes not just with elevation, but also with the weather. Only one of the top 4 units listed above features a barometric altimeter. The worst-performing unit includes a barometric altimeter as well. And FYI, our test happened a few hours after a massive storm system rolled through."

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  • @Charly O. - Many devices in this category now include a barometer, otherwise why would Apple, Garmin, etc bother to include one in their many devices? I am well aware of how a barometer works as well and aware of some of the issues, however as a pilot you should be aware that GPS does not work well in the Z plane.

    In the case of the watch, you really only need relative data from start point to assess slope. This can of course then leverage external data when an import into Strava is setup (if you really need to try and calculate an actual height). FWIW, relative barometric data is more than sufficient even for an event as long as a marathon and should in theory give fairly decent relative height information, which when supplemented with GPS data should give fairly good x, y and z information . :)

    Please let's not start a flame ware around this concept. :)

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  • @Mark Greaves - That's very interesting. I was not aware that they had managed to fit in a BMP280 in the device. It's definitely not in the tech specs and is an interesting development. It will be interesting to see if Apple actually use it as I am not sure if the API is exposed to developers (I could not find anything, but that is not to say it is not there, as it probably is!). :)

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  • Whilst waiting for Strava to get their act together I used the new Runkeeper Apple watch 2 app on it's own today (no phone but with watch's gps).

    It was fairly successful. You have to make sure you cross through the "run with phone" bit, and then it works with the watch's gps.

    It tracked nearly everything ok, but I did notice there was a loss of signal for 30m or so.
    I used rungap to export to Strava perfectly well.

    One thing I did notice with Runkeeper new app is that there is no GPX available for export which is what I normally use to export to Strava.

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