Feedback for Strava's new maps (OpenStreetMap)

See About our Maps for more info.

Strava has recently switched to maps powered by OpenStreetMap, which we understand is a significant change.

Strava is actively working with Mapbox (the open source mapping platform that supplies us with OpenStreetMap) to make sure we offer the best mapping experience for our athletes.

Mapbox gives us the opportunity to create customized maps that fit aesthetically and functionally with Strava. With open source data, errors or missing map assets can be fixed quickly and efficiently, creating the most detailed and robust maps for cycling and running. We believe in the potential and power of maps by OSM and we're focused on giving the Strava community the best experience possible. 

Where did Street View go?

Mapbox does not provide Street View functionality at this time. We realize this functionality was valuable for some athletes; we'll do our best to re-incorporate it when possible.


August 14th, 2015:

We’re 100% committed to making Strava better for our athletes, and we hear you loud and clear regarding this switch from Google Maps to OSM. We didn’t anticipate how strongly some of our athletes would react to the change and apologize that it was a sudden disappointment to some of you. We could have done a better job explaining our reasoning and bracing you for the switch, handling the roll-out, taking more time to work with Mapbox, etc.

 

It may not seem like it now, but we believe deeply that changing to OSM is the best choice we can make for our athletes and our company. There is enormous potential and creative flexibility offered by the new maps and we ask that you stick with us and continue providing feedback as we bring that potential to fruition.

 

Your reports on the quality of the maps, such as missing map data and satellite image quality, can be addressed. We are working closely Mapbox, our OSM map provider, on both satellite imagery and road data and we’re invested in improving your experience. By providing specific examples of satellite and road data, we can act quickly to update the map data.

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We've noted all your comments regarding street view, and understand how important it is to you. The top use for street view seems to center around segments, in viewing segment start and end coordinates as well as viewing the road surface and surroundings. Street view is still available when creating segments, and it may be possible to return street view to other areas of the segment experience. We will have more to share on this soon.

 

Our designers are compiling initial thoughts on how Strava can leverage certain styles, colors and shading to customize the map experience. We are already incorporating the existing feedback we’ve received here. Please continue to send us your feedback on how the look and feel of the maps can be improved.

- The Strava Team

 

August 21st, 2015:

When you visit a segment page, you can now click either endpoint of the segment to be brought to the street view for that location. Or, you can select one of the options from the map view menu (pictured below). 

This addition is not meant to fully resolve your concerns about the switch to Mapbox. We're doing the best we can to respond to your feedback quickly while still maintaining our commitment to elevate your map experience with Mapbox. It's going to take time and we ask that you stick with us, and we'll continue to take your feedback to heart and iterate whenever possible. 

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September 2nd, 2015

We've just updated our maps to support four languages: English, French, German and Spanish. Now, if you're traveling or viewing the map in another country, you'll be able to see map labels and place names in your language. 

How it works: If you have Strava set to one of the above four languages, you will see map labels in that language. For any other language that is not supported at this time, you will see the default map which displays regional language. To change your language preferences, use the menu at the bottom of any Strava page.

This map update also refreshes imagery for the Satellite map in select areas. 

 

October 22nd, 2015

We're excited to announce updated maps in collaboration with Mapbox, featuring an intuitive display of map data and activity-specific styling. Designed especially with runners and cyclists in mind, we focused on a visual experience that would relay the map information we believe most helpful to our athletes: 

  • Offset road labels for better visibility along activities
  • Visually distinct running and cycling paths
  • Highlighted pedestrian areas, outdoor areas, and parks
  • Vivid terrain styling and high-contrast mountain areas
  • Lower map label density for urban areas
  • Major highways and high-traffic roads de-prioritized in grey
  • Added points of interest most relevant to activity on Strava
  • Contour lines and elevation labels on satellite view

This is the first of several map projects we are working on as part of our ongoing goal to make your mapping experience on Strava more accurate, informative and rich. 

 

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  • Its all about the money !!!! Strava pay less / nothing to use OSM. Kinda makes Strava pointless if your unable to actually see at street level when a segments start. 

    And without segments, what is Strava ? beginning of the end ? 

  • When are OSM maps coming to the iPhone? This would be really helpful for helping to navigate the local mountain bike trails, which are marked on OSM but not Google Maps of course. Right now I only see the trails on the website, not in the iPhone app.

  • The new map is a far cry from google map, I live in Bnadung, Indonesia and uses strava to explore new places especially ones located in the northern mountainous part of the city, Google map has extensive data of rural roads and even single tracks often traveled by farmers motor cycle and wagons. Please bring google maps back :)

  • I wrote to customer support (quite a lenghty and personal email on the change in Maps and activity names, both of which I am very unhappy with) and the answer was "thanks we will pass this on". I cancelled my premium membership and hope others will do so as well. That's the only actual message we can send.

  • I have cancelled my Premium membership too ... but I have also counted the number of people on here who have claimed to do the same and it is a valiant but financially insignificant amount of money. Apparently Stavatistik will soon be offering the google maps in Strava via a Strava/ Chrome plugin in. If this is the true ....  it is frustrating that this could not have been setup in advance and it could have been tested etc before it was rolled out. In the meantime I have picked up a RwGPS account for routing which produces much better GPX/TCX files for the both Garmin and Tacx units and the value of Strava to me has been reduced down to a "Facebook style" place to "like" things/comment.I will keep the GwGPS account as long as it exports better files (better turn by turns directions, elevation included for indoor Tacx etc).

  • Hey, I revived Google Maps in Strava through the web plugin "StravistiX" considering the feedback on the new "MapBox+OSM" maps. (see attached image)

    You can get plugin at: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stravistix-for-strava/dhiaggccakkgdfcadnklkbljcgicpckn

    Hope this will help users  who can't deal without street view and clean sattelite views.

    Make sure you updated to version 1.0.0 if you are already user of stravistix

    Note: GMaps work on activities only at the moment. I'm working to implements on segments pages.

    Follow StravistiX x GMaps upcomming features here: https://twitter.com/champagnethomas

  • @Thomas you are our guardian Angel if this works. I've been using stravistix for awhile now and love all the features. Unfortunately I can't seem to find where to access streetview. Do we need to update the extension or should it automatically start working?

  • @Will Of course Google Maps revive works ;) Just wait to get the StravistiX 1.0.0 update popup and you will get Google Maps revived in

    Or

    Restart your chrome browser (or restart computer to make sure).

    Or

    Open new tab => type chrome://extensions/ => Tick "Developer mode" checkbox => click "Update extensions now" button. Scroll down to Stravistix Extension make sure version is 1.0.0 

    Or

    Uninstall extension and reinstall from chrome store: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stravistix-for-strava/dhiaggccakkgdfcadnklkbljcgicpckn

     

     

    Hope this help

    Tom

  • I can confirm Google Maps with Streetview is working very well with StravistiX 1.0.0. Thanks Thomas.

  • @Thomas this is working great... what a god send, I am going to use this a bit, and from what I can see, I will be sending you some $$$ soon...

     

    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stravistix-for-strava/dhiaggccakkgdfcadnklkbljcgicpckn

  • @Dennis Happy you get back Google Maps in Strava with:

    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stravistix-for-strava/dhiaggccakkgdfcadnklkbljcgicpckn

    Tom ;)

     

  • Great work @Thomas, thank you!

    I will donate soon for your project and keep this great work!

  • Come on Strava where are the promised improvements?

     

    I have just created a cyclo-cross route for the first time with the Strava route builder. I wanted to avoid paved roads and use small trails where possible. So I started with the OSM layer. However, I was not able to distinguish between trails and small paved roads when selecting the OSM layer. Fortunately, the route builder still has google maps. With the Google maps layer it was easier but not perfect (where is the claimed benefit of Mapbox/OSM?). So I had to open another window with openstreetmap.org. That layout is much better for finding trails. Strava please improve usability and readability of your OSM maps with a better layout! I would have used Streetview for route planing if it was available in my region. That would have required another browser window/tab as well. Switching between windows/tabs is annoying!

    Since many pro-OSM users claim OSM knows more offroad trails, it was a surprise to me that Google knows more trails in the region I am going to than OSM. I had to turn on manual mode twice and draw the track (because routing is based on OSM).

    As I usually create my routes only a few days, sometimes hours, before I use them, I cannot wait for map updates. So it's a bad joke when you (Strava) say reporting map deficiencies is the solution. For me the solution again is to offer us various layers such as Google Maps and OSM. One might sometimes have to turn on manual mode, regardless whether google or OSM is used for routing, but various maps and good satellite imagery increase the chance that there is a map layer with a path that one can use for manually drawing route sections.

    Strava, please realize Google Maps and OSM are complementary! Do not throw Google Maps away from the route builder and bring it back as an option in all other map applications! User experience got worse with the switch to Mapbox/OSM.

     

    I have canceled my premium subscribtion, too. Not just because of my dissatisfaction with the switch to Mapbox/OSM. The main reason is Strava does not treat its customers well. Moreover, the premium features are flawed and I do not see any progression.

  • Thomas C: Thanks a lot for the Google Maps addition in your plugin!! Fantastic!

    One small thing though;  Would it be possible to have the standard map as a default map compared to the terrain map? If we could change this in the settings it would be awesome. I'm a roadie so I prefer the standard map, but I guess mtb'ers prefer the terrain map...

  • @Magnus Kinn

    It's easy to set user layer type preference for Google Maps  added in StravistiX plugin.

    I track this request ;)

    Comming soon in: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stravistix-for-strava/dhiaggccakkgdfcadnklkbljcgicpckn

    Tom ;)

  • Thomas: Great! Thanks again :-)
  • Just been making a route for the first time in a few weeks. It's an absolute bloody shambles with OSM, and having to get Street View up in another window is a ridiculously impractical solution.

     

    Bring it back and I'm paying for premium again instantly. 

  • Bring back street view/Google.  Also, take a look at the map layers in Gmap.  There is a much better topo map (USGS) and you can still use street view.  

  • As an optional layer, USGS toppo would be OK, but - the rest of the World outside of the USA may find the lack of detail somewhat frustrating. Options are what is needed though - the more the merrier. However the current approach being taken by Strava is not showing any signs of adding, but rather removing options.
  • This move to OSM is seriously disappointing.  The quality of satellite view is SOOO bad.  It's barely worth having it all.  Come on, Strava... figure out another way to monetize your website so you can afford Google Maps.  I have little need to a premium account, but I'd be willing to pay $2 or $3 per month just to get back google maps.  A/B testing would have been a really good idea here.  I have little confidence that MapBox's satellite imagery will ever compete with Google's.  There are so many great things about Strava, but this is like a puss-filled wart in the middle of an otherwise pretty face.  

    Listen to your customers Strava.... and don't wait too long.  You won't survive on free accounts and it'd be a real shame to lose you over a poor financial decision.  Bring back Google Maps and find another solution.

  • Elevation profiles are completely inaccurate, adding 1000's of feet to our rides in CO. It makes everybody confused and hesitant. People are switching to using their Garmins exclusively for tracking their rides. A recent quote from one of our club members: "Yep, now you can't even tell which roads are paved or not either. Ride With GPS is a better route planner, IMO." 

  • It's been more than a month since the last update on the street view issue, any news strava?

    I used street view weekly to check for the road surface (paved/unpaved) in the route builder. I really miss this feature and now recently started using bikeroutetoaster.com to create routes that avoid unpaved roads. I liked the route builder option is strava (when street view was still available) more, but now that it has changed I have no choice but to use another route building service.

    I know OSM has information about the road surface for almost every road, doesn't this makes it possible to provide an option in the route builder to avoid unpaved roads (like on bikeroutetoaster.com)? Please make this happen!

    Besides this issue, strava rocks!

     

  • This screenshot is an excellent example of what we used to have and what we now have with the satellite imagery.

     

    On the right is the level of detail I used to have which was excellent for finding out where trails started (here in the Tweed Valley they are literally gaps in the trees and hard to find).

     

    On the left is what I now have to contend with. Either so blurred it is useless or no images at all at the level of zoom I require.

     

    Now, don't get me wrong. I find the move to OSM to be a bonus even though most of the trails I ride or want to ride aren't mapped, it's the satellite imagery that is letting it down and for me, thus making the service next to useless.

     

    I can tell from the lack of any official response by Strava that they either don't care or do care but don't know what to say but we would appreciate some sort of response. Surely as a company they know the importance of communicating with your customers, and yes. I pay so am a customer, not just a user.

     

     

     

     

  • you are more likely to get a response if you put a post on their facebook page. 

     

    https://www.facebook.com/Strava

  • Very true Gav. This thread is dead.
  • Dear Strava,

    LOVE the switch to OSM - for Gravel and MTB route planning this platform would be clearly superior.  I've even stepped up to contribute on the OSM to add/correct information.  It is vastly superior in terms of information about roads other than paved roads.  I love looking at it now after reviewing my route.  Look forward to switching off Google Maps as the base map for routes, I hope it is in the works.  I would also love if route planning picked up bike trails, mtb trails, and gravel roads as well as it picks up paved sections.

    Thank you!

  • StraTistiX has been updated to 0.6.1.0! Google Maps/StreetView have been awoken plus lots of new OSM/Mapbox styles ;) Get it at https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stratistix-with-arpee-sco/bilbbbdgdimchenccmooakpfomfajepd

  • Liking the update Strava - how often do you plan on refreshing the maps from OSM to take into account changes by users? Weekly./Monthly/Quaterly?!

  • @ Stu,  I think it is continually updated.  Changes I made to OSM myself appeared in the strava app the next day.

  • We've released a new update of the Mapbox maps, tailored specifically for runners and cyclists:

    • Offset road labels for better visibility along activities
    • Visually distinct running and cycling paths
    • Highlighted pedestrian areas, outdoor areas, and parks
    • Vivid terrain styling and high-contrast mountain areas
    • Lower map label density for urban areas
    • Major highways and high-traffic roads de-prioritized in grey
    • Added points of interest most relevant to activity on Strava
    • Contour lines and elevation labels on satellite view

    Last week, we did a major update of our Strava route and elevation basemap and global heatmap. This aims to improve the accuracy when creating routes and with route elevation. We can also update the basemap and heatmaps a lot more frequently now (as frequently as we need to).

    @Stu, changes to the Mapbox maps, powered by OSM, only take a day or two if you report them directly to Mapbox through the link provided from any activity page. 

     

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