PR achievements on first attempt

Hello all, 

We're releasing a slight change to our PR (personal record) achievements. Now, when you first attempt a new segment you will receive a PR. Before, this would only occur on the second attempt if you beat your PR.  

Let us know if you have feedback for us.

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  • Wow!

    I am pleased to see that 99% of users agree with me.

    I hope your company has the sense to acknowledge a mistake and rectify it swiftly.

    If you do my respect for you will actual increase.
    Please make the right decision and listen to your user base.

    This change is actively dissuading me from riding new places....

    Well with strava anyway!

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  • It makes looking at your PR’s completely useless. I’m not even checking anymore because of the many first attempt ‘fake’ PR’s. Considering cancelling premium subscription. One more thing, is there anyone of Strava even hearing the complaints? Or do they just not care what their user base thinks or wants? Every update I hope they got rid of this horrible feature. No luck so far. 👎

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  • Having said this (above) I just went ahead and cancelled my premium subscription right now. I’m done waiting for it to change back, which seems you won’t be doing in the near future as I read on twitter. Sorry, your fault.

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  • Do not enjoy this feature.

    Noticed it earlier but now as I moved to a new city I'm getting rides with 140 trophies and it drowns out any actual PR's.

    Please revert this to previous behavior (trophies on only second time).

    A separate explorer trophy could be a happy medium, but I'd prefer just the original way.

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  • Hi. It needs to be a first attempt badge. I now cannot tell which segments are genuine personal records (over multiple attempts) which makes it harder to analyse performance.

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  • We are scheduled to remove this feature in January 2018 and revert PR achievements to how they functioned previously due to the feedback we've received. Thanks to everyone who reached out to us with comments.

     

    Awesome News!!! Snoopy dance in process!!

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  • Elle,

    Please thank the team for considering user feedback and completing the reversion. Well Done!!!

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  • Hi Elle - I just completed a ride today and set a few PR's that were also KOM's (not something I do often!).  I noticed that they are only showing on the ride page as PR's which is unusual as I would normally see KOM or Top xx when looking at other riders I follow.  Any idea why this is happening?  I would think a Top 10 or KOM is more important than a PR.

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  • About this bug causing Top 10 results to show as only PR. I've noticed this both for myself and my friends. It seems to me that is has gradually become worse the last few weeks. It started with one or two segments not showing as Top 10, but now no Top 10 is displayed at all. I hope you will get that bug fixed soon. After all, it's kind of weird how much motivation and inspiration one can get from an imaginary trophy. But it does work, so please get this fixed.

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  • Well, that's my premium membership downgraded and this given as a cause, along with #bringbackchronological.

    It seems no one cares, or they're busy working out what else to "improve". 

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  • Add me to the voices that are strongly against this change. A PR with nothing to compare it to is valueless and degrades all of the real PRs.

    I like the idea of a special marker for first-time segments, and also I like the idea that the worst time does not qualify for any award (PR, 2nd or 3rd) no matter how many prior attempts there are. This is an elegant solution to the problem of meaningless awards.

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  • Hey Elle,

    Just as many of the commenters on this thread, I disagree with the new change. I thought it was a bug at first, as I'm riding in a new city. But now it's actually annoying, because I can't discern whether I've gotten a PR or not. I also bikepack a fair bit, and having those achievements will not make sense at all. Please, please listen to the feedback of the community! <3

    Much appreciated,

    Jean

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  • I’ve just been for a ride which included some roads I’ve ridden before, I came home with loads of PR’s, but to see if I’d beaten a previous time I have to open each segment and see how many attempts I’ve made. It makes no sense at all!

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  • I am not a fan... done a ride..some old segments and some new but can't tell what's a PR because I have improved or what's a PR because it's first time... maybe a different badge or colour... or nothing...

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  • Not a fan at all of the PRs for a first attempt...it makes the real PRs I get seem wrorth a lot less.  It is also harder to see any achievements I really earned on a first ride in an area.  It looks like some people really like this feedback, so maybe it can be something you can turn off in your personal settings?

     

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  • I do not like this new protocol for recognizing your first time over a segment.  Your first time should be a baseline that future rides are compared against.  This is like everyone getting a trophy at the end of kids recreation soccer season.  In an odd way the PR medal for a first time segment is a negative and not encouraging.  Please reconsider and take this away.  As some have said, go with a "first time" badge if you must recognize it.  When I ride LOTOJA next year I would rather have a ride with no medals than a ride with all PR's.  That would be ridiculous!

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  • Just went thru and voted on several of the comments that indicated PR's on a first attempt are a SILLY idea.  I could not agree more.  For any of us following friends, seeing them book 83 PR's on a 40 mile ride REALLY CHEAPENS that friend making a true improvement.  Make it an option in the PROFILE / SETUP section of a my account and I will turn 1st attempt PR's off immediately.  

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  • I don't like this change. The PR's on the first time on a segment dilute the actual PRs you get when doing a ride. Please go back to the old setup, or allow users to select their preference. 148 trophies on my first time on a route seems silly to me.

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  • Laurence I
    Laurence I.
    Nov 27, 4:10 AM PST

    I think this pb's for first timing a road is stupid!

    I would sincerly like it removed from the site!

    It is not a personal best untill you have ridden it twice. Then if you first effort was better? good for you that should show as a pb.

    I look for pb's to see that I am improving or pushing harder. Just giving them for going up a new road, waters doen the meaning of getting a pb till it is meaningless.

    I did a nice 90k winter ride yesterday 3-5 pb's for roads I know I have ridden (good) 60 for all the new stuff! (meaningless)

    I think its really to the detriment of a site that is all about sweat, training and personal achivment!

    If you want to add in a FT (first time) or something that might be usefull but do not change the meaning of a feature I have used for 6 years!!!

    thank you

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  • Just in case anyone was in any doubt as to the level of interest from Strava on our feedback, this from the Support team: "The only update I have regarding responding to that forum is that there is no update. We currently do not have a set time or plan to respond to the feedback in that forum. We may respond at some time, but we don't know when that would be."

    Wow. Good job Strava.

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  • I have just cancelled my Premium subscription because of this. Strava will pay attention when revenue declines.

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  • I don't think the alternative to scoring a PR for a first attempt on a segment is to have some other achievement like a "first time" cup. The alternative is to have no achievement at all.

    If I go on a very long ride through parts of town or the nearby cities where every meter of road is part of one or more segments, I really don't need to see 50 or 60 achievements show up for new segments I've ridden. It's just noise. When I consider the group ride I did this past Sunday where a majority of the route was over segments I've ridden with this group before, but one section, comprising quite a few segments, was new, it sucked having to wade through all the "first time" PRs to have a look at the PRs that represented actual personal bests on segments I've ridden a few times. Having to wade through an equal number of "first time" badges or whatever would just be a distraction as well.

    Really this was much better before. I have no idea what gave the devs this wild hair to make this particular change. And now I have no idea why they keep it when the only source for feedback on this that i've yet seen, ie: this thread, is overwhelmingly opposed to it.

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  • No. A first time notification, ok (rather like Stravistix) but I dont want proper PRs swamped by this spam.

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  • Yet another Strava feature that noone requested whilst perfectly good suggestions from years ago have still not been been implemented.

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  • I seriously don't see the point in this, apart from confusing people who look for prs. With this and other recent changes (e.g. news feeds etc) it is starting to seem that strava thinks they know what their customers want more than the customers do. Which plays into the decision when deciding to upgrade. 

     

    Why not add a new 1st ride achievement?

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  • No no no no no...

    One of the main things I look for after uploading a ride is where I've achieved PRs. Unless it's a very short route it's likely that I'll have ridden plenty of new segments and this new "feature" makes it impossible to distinguish whether it was an improvement or just a new segment (without clicking on each and every segment to see whether it says "1 effort" or not).

    If people want something to show how many new segments they have ridden, then by all means have some other measure e.g. a "first time" badge, but this new "feature" of extending the definition of a PR to include new segments simply doesn't make sense. An alternative, as others have suggested, is at least to have the ability to opt out of this so we can see our own true PRs. The weakness of this of course is that you can't gauge the performance of others using the number of 1/2/3s achieved on their rides in the feed.

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  • Nope. Don't like it. By all means give me an award for "rode somewhere new" - but don't call it a PR cos it ain't. Never was, never will be.

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  • Thank you for revering to how PR's were previously recorded!  This is great news!

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  • Debbie. Nobody is denying that there should be some acknowledgement of 'new' segments, but it shouldn't be using the PR trophy. As the first time you complete a segment is not a PR, it's a personal benchmark for future attempts.

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  • To illustrate how crazy this is..,

    Yesterday I went on what may be my slowest ride ever (a combination of injury problems and bad weather).  I rode 33 segments. Every one of them has got a medal - 27 Gold and 6 Silver.  Can you guess how many of those segments I have ridden before!?

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