PR achievements on first attempt

Hello all, 

We're releasing a slight change to our PR (personal record) achievements. Now, when you first attempt a new segment you will receive a PR. Before, this would only occur on the second attempt if you beat your PR.  

Let us know if you have feedback for us.

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  • Hate this change; far too difficult to sort genuine progress from first time routes.

    This, and the 'Strava as Facebook' weirdness from last week, sadly means that Strava is going to lose my allegiance pretty quickly. If it ain't broke, don't fix it team.

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  • I don't like the change. Now, if you go out on a ride with a mix of roads you have cycled before and new roads, you can't distinguish between an improvement from before and a new segment. 

    It seems silly to do a new route and get PRs for all segments. I would be fine with a different badge to signify a new segment (though not sure it is needed) but not a PR for a new segment. 

     

    Thanks

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  • I'm definitely not a fan of this.  I assumed it was a bug as no-one would actually want this would they!?  It makes it much more difficult to notice when you've actually improved as I'll just start assuming PRs are really just new segments.

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  • I'm afraid I'm not a fan. But then, I'd prefer it if no 2nd or 3rd best time was given unless you'd actually beaten a previous time (i.e if you had only ridden it 2 or 3 times). That way you only get an achievement when you've actually ridden faster than you had previously. Otherwise you haven't actually achieved anything.

    I'm sure many people disagree!

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  • I'm not liking how noisy this is making the segment feed. Would go along with suggestion to denote first attempt, and leave records for where you have actually shown an improvement. This is taking the fun out of exploring.

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  • Getting a PR for the first time of riding a segment is wrong!  This is part of the "everybody gets a medal" mentality - it's childish.

     

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  • I asked Strava if they have a timeline for deciding whether these new features will be reversed and was told they have no plans to do so at the moment.

    Cancelling premium subscription until they sort it out. Very disappointed they seem to have confused their product with Facebook, Instagram etc.

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  • Where have you gone Ellen Anderson? The impression I'm getting from your lack of response to the negative feedback is that you're saying "We don't care if you don't like it, we've implemented it so it's in".

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  • I don't like the new feature either, your 1st time on a segment should not be a PR.  How can it be a record if it's your 1st time?

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  • Really don't like this. 

     

    PR's are a way of tracking progress on rides that contain old and new segments. They just get lost in the noise now and it's more difficult to see what you've actually PR'd.

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  • Yeah, I only want "achievements" when I've done something rad. Riding something slowly for the first time is not rad.

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  • This is making it incredibly hard to see actual PRs and to track progress on segments. Is Strava even considering reverting, or are we wasting our time just like with chrono order?

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  • When you first look at it its nice then you realise your kidding yourself its a stupid change for the many reason posted.  I'm wanting to see I am actually getting fitter (i.e I was faster this time) and not just exploring a new route.

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  • Yep. Don’t like the change. You need to earn your gongs so for me it can’t be the first time you ride a segment. PRs were something to look forward to seeing after nailing a ride. Now you get them too easily on a new route. Imho.

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  • Hi Strava,

    Not a fan of the change. Makes it harder to differentiate achievements from simply never been this way before segments. Devalues the experience.

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  • Went out today, feeling dreadful. Went slowly up a hill I haven't done before and "achieved" loads of PRs. How stupid is that??! Please reverse this stupid idea.

    I'm not against an icon for segments ridden for the first time, but please don't give me a PR just for going somewhere I've never been before.

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  • Dear Elle, please explain why you bother to ask for feedback if you have no intention of taking any notice?

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  • Strava, you have limited time to fix this before you will have lost your loyal users. 

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  • Thanks Elle! Will go back to premium once this is done. :)

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  • I hadn't noticed this update until I rode a new route today and came home to 110 PRs. I've been Refreshing Activity Awards thinking it was a bug, until I saw this.

    I think one of the alternative ideas would be better.

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  • I do not like it for many of the reason stated by other - mostly it becomes meaningless to get a PR on your first attempt! 

    I would suggest a user option that turns off PR on First Attempt! 

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  • Don't like it. I also don't like the entire new update - it is visually unappealing. Also, I do not want Strava to turn into facebook as the new "post" feature is trying to do. I keep the 2 separate for a reason. For those who want to post, they can link their strava to FB. Don't turn this from a sport / activity tracker to nothing but pictures of someone's damn dinner!

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  • I would actually prefer awarding *fewer* personal place trophies, requiring that you actually have to beat one of your efforts to get one. So no PR 1st time on a segment. No 2nd for the second time on it, but a PR if you beat your previous attempt. No 3rd for third attempt, but possibly a PR or 2nd.

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  • I don't like this change at all. How can you have a PR with nothing to gauge it against? Followers might look at your ride and think you've ridden a blinder when it fact it could have been quite average. As others have said it is also confusing when you ride a new route that might include some segments previously ridden. Maybe have a "New" badge but to be honest I think most people are well aware if they're riding different roads or trails.

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  • I'm against this change.

    I agree that a PR should be relative to other attempts. To call a single attempt a "PR" is true, but is also a trivial result, and hence devoid of any real meaning.

    Plus, as others have stated, going on a long ride in some new area littered with segments should not result in rides with potentially dozens of PRs, as if I'd actually achieved something. To me, PRs are an indication of me beating myself on some segment. Not just riding it.

    If this were a democracy, I'd definitely be pulling the lever for NO to first-attempt segment results listed as PRs.

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  • Not sure this needs more support for a revert but PLEASE do. 

    Like many others I think that flagging new segments ridden in some way is very useful but does really create a lot of 'trophy noise' which drowns out any signal. 

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  • How will I know if I beat my previous time if it has a PR for the first attempt?  If I improve every time it will always show PR, and ditto if I get worse every time.  Useless feature - and I use the term feature advisedly.  Please revert to previous only getting PR done segment twice.

     

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  • My premium membership also downgraded for now. I don't think Strava are listening to their users (how many negative feedbacks do Strava need before they remove this stupid new feature?!) If you're listening and working on fixing it, at least say so! Personally I'd quite like to see a choice of how to sort my feed - chronological by upload, chronological by date ridden, or by what Strava thinks is interesting.

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  • My feedback - a bit irritating. I'm in favour of PRs only when I have data to beat. Before this change, on a 2nd attempt you knew you were guaranteed a PR or 2nd-best trophy, which made the achievement kinda worthless. This new change makes it worse, so I'd got more strict in the other direction and only hand out a trophy if you've actually beaten something, ie, a PR only if there's 2 attempts, a 2nd place only if there's 3 attempts, etc.

    I do like the idea that others are suggesting of a badge or trophy or count of the number of new segments you've found during the activity.

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  • I think this is a bit weird. Since this change it is tricky to see when you have a PR. That's why I don't even bother looking at the PR's anymore.

    Would like it go back to the old system, or have an 1st Attempt sign.

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