PR achievements on first attempt

Hello all, 

We're releasing a slight change to our PR (personal record) achievements. Now, when you first attempt a new segment you will receive a PR. Before, this would only occur on the second attempt if you beat your PR.  

Let us know if you have feedback for us.

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  • Another ride in a new area today (and a very slow one too!), with hundreds of nonsense PRs. PRs are one of the things that makes Strava interesting for me but now they are so meaningless I'm no longer routinely checking the achievements for rides just completed. Strava has become a lot less interesting for me as a result of this "small change".

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  • Terrible feature. I also thought this had to be a big. It totally devalues PR’s as many have said.

    Please change this back. Pretty please?

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  • I'm finding this nonsense so annoying that I'm seriously considering turning off segments on my rides in future. Achievements are not achievements any more.

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  • This is driving me potty! Please allow me toggle this off or preferably return it to how it used to be. I only want PRs when I've IMPROVED a specific time.

    If you want to give out badges more regularly to get people excited, why not introduce an "explorer" badge for every new segment they complete.

    If you want to change the PR system to create more frequent rewards why not add "annual best" OR better still, allow the user to set a reset point (e.g. When they get injured) so they get a "PR" since the injury/ this season etc...it's up to them.

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  • I have pm’ed Elie Anderson. Reqesting that she does her job and manages the comunity. That would make us feel better and more like we are valued customers.

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  • So after Strava refused to comment on my ticket raised on this matter I have unfortunately felt compelled to withdraw my premium membership too like some others here. I canot continue to financially support a company who ignore my corespondance with them I'm afraid. I feel bad about doing it but their ignoring my ticket is just plain rude.

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  • Please make it an option to change this ridiculous option. It makes it impossible to realise a genuine PR when riding a slightly different course to a previous one.

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  • i'm assuming it's a coding issue. the boffins are trying to add some new and exciting feature and this PR for every new segment is just some side effect they can't fix so passing it off as an enhancement in the mean time while they try to recruit someone who can make the original coding intent a reality. ie, sell your fuck ups as features.

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  • Good morning. Wonderful thing this Strava. I think getting a personal record for a first attempt devaules the personal record medal. I think it could be useful to have a first attempt badge of some sort. Thanks.

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  • I hope this change get's reverted very soon. I've just moved to a new city and every single ride I do is a full gamut of PRs which is incredibly distracting for trying to discern which segments are new, and which I was actually faster over compared to a previous attempt. Lucky I have VeloViewer.  

    Don't be scared of trying new things Strava, just be bold enough to revert/amend changes when they don't turn out as expected. 

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  • Please Strava make this go away!
    A first time rise on a segment shouldnt get a PB, not until subsequent attempts give something to compare it to.

    It is very annoying when you finish a ride amd have to filter through the achievements to pick out the genuinely earned ones from the first time ones.

    Could it be made optional? Or maybe the achievement could have a different symbol?

    Is anything at all going to be done about this? Is anyone listening?

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  • Hooray, finally sense has been restored. Thanks for the news Elle, I shall look forward to next month’s update.

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  • Great to hear that Strava have finally listened and are removing the PR for first attempts! Any chance you can also revert to feed back to chrono? Or at least give us the option to choose? Then I might consider going back to Premium. Carry on listening!

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  • Elle could I make a suggestion. Would it not be better to float ideas past the community, look at the responses and if positive go with? If overwhelmingly negative don't go with it. That way you get what the community wants without upsetting people.

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  • Thanks Anthony, I'm encouraging the team to consider a unique icon for your first attempt on a segment. You can also join the discussion here.

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  • Thanks for listening and reverting to the previous behaviour.

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  • Sorry Stuart Dorland, but you are just plain WRONG!  It does “hurt” people who track achievements from year to year if the measuring stick changes.  Also, as has been stated many times if you’d bothered to read the comments, it makes it a lot harder to find/see *real* PRs when reviewing a ride.  First attempt PRs are participation trophies and nothing more, but maybe that’s the generation that you’re a part of.  

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  • Anthony, let's leave aside that you missed the main and most important reason i.e. PR on first effort can make it hard to scan for *real* PRs.  Regarding your other point... most cyclists tend to ride the same or similar routes on a regular basis (see the Strava heatmap for e.g.)  Most of those routes are already heavily segmented so it's unlikely that many or any new segments will be added, and in any case they will be a very small percentage of existing segments.  Now, said cycling goes to a brand new area on vacation or for an event.  Under PR-on-first-effort, said cyclist will get dozens or even hundreds of new PRs that aren't real PRs but participation trophies and artificially inflate their PR count.  But sure, hold yourself to a low standard if you want.  Just don't try to pull others down to your level.  And based on the statistics on the thread, the VAST majority of sampled Strava users DO think the same way I do. 

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  • Please put me in the camp that thinks this id's a bad idea for the reasons suggested in previous posts, distracting and devaluing.

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  • Its a tricky one. While technically your first attempt is your personal best it does give others a misleading impression. Eg on my ride yesterday i got 95 PRs that makes it look that either i was really rubish last time of my performance has magically improved. I would agree with the idea of a FA award for "first attempt".

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  • I dislike the PR for the first time you ride a new segment.

    If I take a new route, it looks like I put out my best effort even I stopped 10 times to check my map or just rolled it slow because I am unfamiliar.

    I didn't mind it when there was no indicator, but I think it would be better if there is a 1st Time badge, which would be relevant if I want to research my times and routes.

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  • This is a silly update. How can a PR be the same as a new segment? I have 3 things to say to the people who thought this was a good idea. Stupid stupid & stupid. Please roll back this dumb feature asap so I can see my real achievements. I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but seriously? 

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  • I'm also downgrading. Maybe that will light a fire up their asses. Won't be long before gcn and Dc rainmaker chime in also. Hope you are ready for the coming storm. 

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  • Ditto downgraded until resolved

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  • Hi Strava,

    how is this even remotely necessary or important? You have far bigger problems at your hand, for example an unchronological activity feed.

    All this does is; firstly showing PRs instead of the actual KOM or QOM achievement. Your workaround refreshing the activity works but is highly annoying and certainly cannot be the intended long term solution.

    Also, it simply serves to jack up the medal count on rides and runs which in return is absolutely unnecessary. It simply fills your activities with junk 'achievements' of no actual worth. Of course the first attempt is a PR on any segment... how that is worth a medal however, is beyond logic. Basically you are giving out participation medals. 

    Btw.... the gamification attempt would only work with a chronological activity feed.

     

    So how about you start listening to your customers, the survey should be a pretty clear cut case too, your Facebook page certainly is and firstly bring back a chronological feed, or at least the option (Veloviewer and Stravatistix have both managed to do it in a matter of days) and secondly respect your users privacy. 

     

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  • Premium subscription cancelled.

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  • Come on strava, don’t ignore us....clearly this is NOT a popular feature....isn’t it about time you responded rather than just ignoring the feedback??

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  • Whoever went out for a ride in a new area, came home and said "I just did a PR around that loop!"?

    This is total nonsense. Please put it back.

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  • hate. so bad. at least i can download a plug in to get rides back in chrono order. this really blows.

     

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  • i like to see how i am performing for both fitness gains and social and to see so many PR's on a new ride i dont agree with. i personally would like to see it annotated as a first ride of the segment if you are going to change it at all, please consider that, then after it is is recorded as a first time ridden ride then if you do it again it can record as normal a 2nd. 3rd or PR if applicable.

     

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