Segments which only apply to your Club(s)

Is there any option to add Segments which only apply to the clubs you are in?  There are loads of segments which are duplicated or just wrong etc.  Or is there a better way for us to manage them?

addendum:

What if Strava made it easier to filter segment results by your club, and pulled this feature into the club page? For example, if there was another tab on the Club page for "Club Segments", the club could select some number of existing segments, and have the club-only segment results displayed there. In one glance, a club member could review the designated Club segments and track leaderboard changes, etc. 

Even better, add a time filter component, such as showing club leaderboard results from 'this date to that date'.

Thoughts? 

 

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  • It would be GREAT to have invitation-only segments. I hate public segments in Strava now... too many cheaters and segment-hunters who just wait for a giant tail-wind and then go ride a segment over and over again in a single ride until they steal a legit KOM. So now I use mostly private segments for my own enjoyment and training, but it would be much more fun to be able to invite friends, family members and club members to also see these segments, but NOT the general public, so we can compete against each other only. Would make Strava fun again...

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  • Very much need club only segments, especially where some routes are sensitive, private, cheeky etc so you only want to share with the members of the club.

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  • Just give in.

     

    Jeez, I get an email for this thread, with your comments zooming back and forth. And it sounds like my kids arguing in the back seat of the car .

     

    First, to STRAVA  - People want this feature. Just make it (how hard can it be?)

    2nd to the Anti-Private segment people - Take it easy tough guy. Some of us don't ride 400 miles a week, and we just want to "compete" with our friends (Is that really such a big deal to you?)

     

    Finally, to the I want a private segment crew - Try "Map my Ride"  Just about the same as STRAVA, but fewer olympic-caliber-users. I  use it, and it works very well. 

    When I want to see how I am doing vs my friends, I check MapMyRide. When I want to say,  "Oh my god, how did he get up that hill that fast?" I use STRAVA

     

    Doug in San Diego

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  • Hi, i deal a MTB crew that is allowed to bike on some paths that are usually restricted to other users (pedestrians, hunters ...). Because we keep good relations with the municipal council, because we help local associations to work, because we are implicated in the social life of the village, we are allowed to bike and train on those paths. Of course, we have to keep quiet of to restrict the use to our members. But to train, we love keeping using strava for comparing ourselves (inside our MTB crew strava team). But because we have to keep quiet about the use of those paths, we finally NOT USE strava when we go biking there. Such a shame. (Marc)

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  • Agree, and take it one step further: add King of Club and club specific Trophies. I'm not trying, nor will I be able to beat the pros who ride in my area. I just want to compete against my friends. I want the opportunity to be King of Club, and lord it over them :)

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  • Fantastic idea, It is demoralizing to compare my times to the pros in my area, but to challenge my riding buddies. Great idea! Doug in San Diego
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  • Aside from cheeky, sometimes you just want to keep the ride between friends and may not want it to count on the main leaderboard.

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  • Would love to see 'invite only' challenges - we could create our own ride to work challenges etc.
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  • Strava needs to add Club Level Trophies for segments as well as Club Level Segment Privacy - it is encouraging when amateur riders can compete with friends and coworkers but it becomes discouraging when we all have to compete at a professional level.  We have a small group of riders at work that have been riding segments we created *behind the security gate* at our private work campus.  We have enjoyed the private competition but now the local pros have discovered our segments are crashing the security gate and (easily) taking all the trophies they can get.  We readily acknowledge their superior riding skill and capacity - we cannot ride 150+ miles every week because we are not sponsored pro/semi-pro riders and never will be.  But that doesn't mean we do not enjoy a private level of amateur competition that can be kept at a club level.  Yes - you can sort your performance at a  Club level but no accolades are awarded for your activity unless you are among the very best out of everyone who has ever ridden the segment.

    We always knew the day would come when our pseudo-private segments would be discovered and it is disappointing now that it has arrived.  There is a parallel behavior in chess called "playing down" wherein a player will always challenge opponents with significantly lower ratings which gives them a strong probability of winning in exchange for a very small increment in their rating.  This is typical of players who can't stand losing.  It is undoubted that when the local pros discovered our segment(s) and saw our amateur times, they saw a free candy scenario and went for it.  I don't blame them - it is the nature of competition, but it is disappointing and discouraging that we have to constantly compete against the very best riders *overall* regardless of our ambition or skill.  Strava could be so much more with Club level trophies - our segment privacy lasted about two years (surprisingly) and it is difficult to underestimate how strongly motivating the trophies have been.  We all work together and talk vigorously when the trophies changed owners, but now all of the trophies will be all out of our reach forevermore.  It is as if we were in a local amateur chess club that was crashed by a Grandmaster chess champion whom we have no hope of defeating but can do nothing to keep out and who is only interested in taking away our sense of accomplishment.  We are not, after all, professional riders.

    Strava needs to add either club segments and/or club trophies just to keep us amateurs motivated and rewarded at a local personal level.  It doesn't cost them anything and it does not distract from the overall leader boards where the pros can compete with one another.  What it does add is a strong sense of accomplishment and friendly competition among a small private group of riders that know one another and can talk smack in their own circles about trophies that are meaningful only to them and at their level.  A trophy, even if it is virtual and club level, means something even to an amateur and is surprisingly motivating.  Come on Strava, do the right and simple thing.  Your role in all this is to encourage physical activity and competition.   By compelling everyone to compete at a professional level or not at all you discourage amateurs and weekend warriors from seeking virtual rewards that cost you nothing and mean a lot at the personal level.  The only solution we currently have it to delete the segment(s) so that the pro crowd is not whipped into a competitive fury and are not crashing security gates just to take something away from a group of freely admitted amateurs.

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  • I'm president of a MTB association, we are using Strava for our rides / trainings and we are missing the same functionality.

    We would like to have private segments that can be sharred between members of our group only.

    Because some of this segment are on our private forest and we don't want to have this trails on a map that everybody can access.

    To avoid external person to access this private forest.

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  • 4 years of strong support for this idea and no progress... Strava, is this going to happen?  It's a must!  My team has a custom segment for our training loop, but we had to build them privately on each of our accounts because we don't want the competition to poach our route or see our times.  It works, but we being individual private segments means we can't compare efforts which is the entire point of Strava Premium.  Such a small, obvious feature, literally all we need is an option on our private segments tab to "invite users". I don't understand what the holdup is.

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  • You have been making a lot of noise about improving clubs on Strava, being able to have a single view for a club that shows the leaderboard for club members on a curated list of Segments would be super awesome. If I had the time i'd seriously have a go at trying to implemnet this using your API.... sadly I don't! Its a PITA looking at multiple segments one by one and manually filtering for my club.

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  • Our club includes juniors and newbies and the club only  segment would be a great feature for our riders to view our training routes with no presure to go fast ,A simple leader board with just the one time for the club ride would surfice (times would give a guide when to meet at certain intersections to join in and also the end of ride finish Time)

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  • hi, that a very good idea

    it can be fun to make "secret" segments on private forest

    tanks 

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  • This feature would be great for both my cycling and running club. 

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  • Really need this for our club as it's a private club and we really don't want the opposition seeing what routes we are riding.

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  • I'm just creating a club in strava for a local Facebook group of around 80+ MTB cyclists here in Sweden and I'm missing the starred segments for the local trails, I actually thought this was the reason for clubs in strava and not just a leaderboard. This would be a great addition. Cheers Tony

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  • Is this a feature yet? I work with training camps where club pages involving highlighted segments would be super fun and helpful. I see this thread was started several years ago - any progress? Thanks for the help.

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  • Yes, club only segments or invitation only segments would be great.

    Although I'm not a member of a club, maybe it could be possible to create a private segment, then have an option to share the segment with others, or make another class of private segments that is only visible to your followers.

    I mainly would use this just to make a segment that me and others I know run regularly, but don't want to create a public segment and junk up the already cluttered segment map in my area.

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  • The more I use Strava, the more disenchanted I am with it. It seems common sense that if the system is supposed to be a social network application then you should be able to set different levels of privacy, rather than 1)everyone can see it or 2)nobody can see it. Why is there not a feature to share a segment or create a challenge only visible to you and your friends? This seems like a pretty basic feature that the developers at Strava have overlooked.

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  • Any segment can be filtered to only shop club members so this is not an issue. To have a segment that is 'private' would also imply you would want  the ride you uploaded also 'private' if you are wanting to keep others away from the 'cheeky segment'. But having KOC (King of Club) seems like a great innovation. Having been on strava for 3 years now I know that in time they do implement lots of great ideas and I am sure all this will come. So Cactus F. I think you are over reacting a bit.

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  • Making the whole ride limited to the club members would be fine. Or you can just split up the ride so post the cheeky sections and those leading up to them separately. Cheeky is a big reason for this need to me as a huge amount of trails that were not publicly known and potentially sensitive are showing up now, and a lot of damage is occurring because of Strava, and land owners are getting upset. In the past while some they objected to many they tolerated on their land because it wasn't much impact. Likewise small groups of locals are less likely to try to sue the landowner when they crash than the masses of weekend warriors who are being reckless or barely been on a bike before.

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  • Oh, and one other case I know - MOD (Defence land) in the UK. They have authorised use by bikes in places, some trails even built by the army, but they also have a policy of not publicly publishing trails. Some groups now require you don't publish GPS tracks because they'll go public. Yet it would be interesting to compare the rides just between group members.

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  • Yes, "invite only" segments and challenges is really needed now... our family rides and racec (road and CX) with a few clubs and groups of people and there is a lot of interest in doing this, but again, only as "semi-private" so we can just keep it among friends, and keep the whole thing fun and friendly and not full of hundreds of local ding-dongs who seem to make a full-time job of KOM-hunting (and there are SO many useless overlapping and duplicate segments already anyway...)

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  • You can view/filter a segment based on who you are following which is essentially a "club segment".

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  • "You can view/filter a segment based on who you are following which is essentially a "club segment"."

    That's true, and you can filter by club also. However the segments on there are still public to all. We need an element of privacy for segments between private to yourself only and full public. i.e. for cheeky or sensitive routes or events where you don't want the entire public doing the route or attempting to keep events managed rather than have general public racing without control.

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  • What reason would you have for not wanting "the public" to ride a public available route? I don't think it is  bid deal if someone does a race course on a different day than the race itself. You can filter by date anyway. By cheeky do you mean dangerous? or like "fastest through a shopping mall" cheeky? And anyway, a duplicate "non privatized" version of the same segment would just get created anyway.

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  • I own a big piece of land with some trails that my friends helped me build. In return, they're welcome to ride them anytime they like, but I don't want just anybody seeing those segments and riding them.
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  • I don't think Segments should not be private or club only. However there should be a filter available to filter per club. 
    Having trophies per club would be a great addition though. 

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  • It already available as a feature in the filters

     

     

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