Strava for Adventure Motorcycle and Moto-X Communities

Recently, I did an experiment with the Strava App during a dirt bike ride through Ocotillo Wells.  As suspected, the Strava App worked great, minus the obvious—“Calories” burned.  I suspect that this might be in question since I was not wearing a heart monitor, and I was not riding my bicycle.  That said, I really see an opportunity to service a whole other market that is lacking the level ease and detail Strava can provide.  What I am suggesting is a re-brand, sister app (based on the current Strava App) specifically targeted for the Adventure / Dirt Bike / Moto-Cross rider.  This off-shoot of the popular Strava App would maintain the current features, update the algorithm for calorie consumption, and provide the user with a setting to account for laps automatically. The new feature of accounting for laps can provide increased detail; with split times, best lap, average lap time etc… thus providing a training tool that I foresee many riders would take seriously. By providing this capability to the Adventure / Dirt Bike / Moto-Cross rider, Strava can easily establish itself as the affordable, premier GPS athletic activity tracking option for motorcycle enthusiasts.   

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  • I see there is a check box that lets you remove your stats from leader boards (Hide from leaderboards) now when editing a ride.  A similar check box could be worded "Did you use an engine?"  And could similarly remove the results from the leaderboard.  

    I've just been logging my moto rides as workouts now.  My bicycle friends don't seem to mind.  Most of them like it.  Logging them this way works for me.  It would be nice to have it as a separate category and use it for keeping logs of hours and miles on the bike.  I may start trying "rides" and just exclude them from leaderboards.  Problem is, adding the WR450 to the "mountain bike" category.. max weight in that category is 151 pounds. lol.

    I don't see why the hesitation to add this feature.  I know Strava employees are probably overworked just like all of us.  But I think this would be a good market to break into.  Dirt bikers and 4 wheeler riders like to spend money on toys and generally spend more than runners and bicyclists.  If profit matters, it might be worth looking into.  Strava already has the foundation to pull it off.  Want my money?

    Luckily, I live in an area where ALL trail users get along.. moto, mountain, road, quad and even trail runners and equestrians.  I mountain and road cycle.  I trail run.  I moto on the street and trail.  So tired of the bickering between the elitists.  We CAN all get along and use the same trails.

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  • Tried logging as a ride.. problem is, it adds to my overall mileage for my bicycle rides.  Not acceptable to me.  Needs it's own category. Back to just logging as "workouts".

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  • Lauren Durbin: I don't like it when snowmobilers ruin my cross country skiing tracks. I'd be even less happy if they then took my place on the cross country leaderboards!

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  • Adam Pearce: That would be unpleasant.  Would be nice to have something that's not a workaround.  No snowmobiles or cross country skiing in Oklahoma, so I think I'm safe here for now.  It's so strange to think that they have an ebike category, but not a sport like motorcycle riding.

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  • just so you know. Garmin connect has these features. its also possible to make your segments and leader board private and only viewable to your riding group/ club members. you can also download your segments in gpx format, something that strava doesnt allow.. even for paying members. those of us who own property with trails and paying members are all moving back to Garmin because strava has been ignoring segment privacy and leader board complaints since their inception.

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  • Kyle MacDermaid why do you need to be a dick? I appreciate someone letting others know where we can find features we've been requesting for years.

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  • Sky Toucher, thanks for the info! Didn't even know that was available. Hopefully it integrates better with my garmin devices anyways.

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  • K2, Strava is way more feature rich, Garmin connect does not offer the same level of functionality as Strava. I wasn't trying to be a dick, it was an honest question. If he does not use Strava, and essentially only had complaints for it, then my question stands. Why is he here? The goal of this thread is to hopefully get strava to eventually add motorpsorts. There are tons of "alternatives" out there. Garmin Connect, Polaris has an app, MapMyRide, etc etc etc. None match the feature set of strava. (Hence why everyone is here.) 

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  • Sadly, I think that's the only way to make this happen; upsetting other app users. I just would have though it would be so easy for Strava to add a new category named "Vehicle" or "Motorised" or something else as generic to satisfy all non-human powered activities. 

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  • @Darin Chester

    I know you don't care about KOM'rs, but I suspect Strava does since they often pay premium for the actual service Strava is trying to sell.

    Now if anyone is competing for KOMs on an e-bike profile those aren't real KOMs anyway.

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  • I'm seeing this as well. I don't have any problems with the moto guys riding the legal moto trails we have in the area, but when I'm riding them on my bike, I don't want to compare my efforts against theirs. What would be even better, in addition to the "Motorcycle" activity, would be for Strava to recognize that a user is traveling at unrealistic speeds uphill or on average. I'm sure we could say that 40-50mph is realistic on a downhill course or road bike going downhill, but an average speed of 25mph for 30 miles on undulating offroad terrain? A bit less so.

    That being said, it's pretty fun knowing I'm beating their times going downhill. Suckas. 

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  • I see why Strava wants to limit these types.  There is very little control over policing if someone is using the proper type, then their activity gets flagged and their life is ruined, over a silly app.

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  • Yeah, I've lost hope due to the "negative" votes.  Seems Strava just wants to cater to public opinion instead of actual demand for services.  I'll just keep logging moto rides as workouts on the "free" version of strava as long as it remains free.  So sad that haters can't agree to just let us all get along.  I welcome EVERYBODY on my trails.  https://youtu.be/BS8yvVPmr-4

     

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  • Thanks Elle Anderson . I'll keep hoping for an all inclusive Strava.  I know it's hard pleasing the masses.  :)  Thanks for putting forth the effort to include us "deviants" in Strava's future.  ;)

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  • Oh well, when I moto I just use cycling, let Strave and the community sort it out...

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  • Please add Motorcycle or Motocross, also more importantly snowmobile. You will lose me (as well as others) to ViewRanger. Keep your users and add more activities such as this please

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  • I'm an avid cyclist as well as a moto guy... Paul H., please help us advocate for a moto option and you will not have to flag anyone...

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  • Moe I'm right there with ya, man. I want other users to be able to log their times accordingly. I flag the Moto guys because its awful hard to gauge my progress and skills against cyclists when I can't determine whos got a motor or not. I guess the tough thing for Strava developers is that their app is a training tool, and some people use it like a racing tool.  I'm sure there is liability exposure in that. 

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  • Hi everyone, I updated the pinned comment with a new survey that doesn't allow down voting. Hope you can take a few moments to fill it out, thanks! 

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  • Much better survey format. Thank you Ellie.

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  • would definitely love to see motorcycle support in strava! i've filled out the surveymonkey link accordingly as well.

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  • I completed the survey. Hoping for this a moto category to come to fruition soon.

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  • I've logged a few moto as private e-bike rides and I will continue to do so. Filled out surveymonkey form. Other moto-specific apps are far behind strava. 

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  • Just had a knock down drag out with my buddy who logs all his motorcycle rides on Strava in an area frequented by MTB riders.  All the leaderboards of all the segments are controlled by dirtbikes.  His position is "so what just try harder to beat our times".  My position is Strava is, and always has been, a cycling app first and foremost.  I see no difference between a dirtbike holding KOMs on forest service/fire roads (that requrie license plates), and trails than a streetbiker or car enthusiast running strava on the streets or highways, and dominating the (cycling) leaderboards.

    So yes, STRAVA needs to include motorsports and filter them to their own leaderboards, OR re-build "STRAVA-MOTORS" or something and release that for use for people wanting to log and map those activites.

     

    How has this not happened yet?

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  • Yes please add an Adventure Motorcycle mode! Then I don't need to hide my tracks from those ones anymore!

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  • Another vote. Also please to add a snowmobile category too.

    Not everyone in the world is obsessed with KOMs and competing with random strangers on the internet - many of us couldn't care less, but just love using the excellent features of Strava for tracking our activities and seeing where other people involved in the same sport are going.

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  • Pretty sure that liability has nothing to do with the reluctance and that it has everything to do with a philosophical opposition to motorized sports. If you look at their list of activities the only thing remotely close is "e-bike ride", and they were forced to do that to avoid having e-bikes polluting the KOM rankings for regular bike rides. Everything else is "human powered." I doubt we'll ever see it. I just file my moto and sled rides under e-bike.

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  • Someone has to be opposed to it in their organization. Cracks me up though... E-bike = cycle with a motor. lol.

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  • This is a great idea! I have thought about using my Garmin/Strava combo in flat track races but didn't want to throw off my training stats. Please add this functionality as there is a HUGE user group that could take advantage of it, and many of the users will cross over in multiple disciplines.

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  • This is a great idea! I have been tracking my rides privately but would appreciate an option for full functionality.

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